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U.S. considering military-civilian terrorist prison

World Aug. 03, 2009 - 03:43AM JST ( 19 )

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BadseyAug. 03, 2009 - 09:19AM JST

We already have the Fema camps: -if they are good enough to hold Amerikans they should hold terrorists just as well. -and the Fema camps were built to hold 1,000s.

Or we can just send them to Pelosi's state where they will all fit in just fine -unless they don't accept IOUs.
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RomeoRamenIIAug. 03, 2009 - 02:43PM JST

House the GITMO terrorists AT Obama's home in Chicago. He's not using it right now and I'm sure the city won't object. In fact, one of his neighbors, William Ayres, can drop by every now and then and compare notes.
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SargeAug. 03, 2009 - 03:05PM JST

RR - Good one.
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SushiSake3Aug. 03, 2009 - 03:15PM JST

Americans should quit buying into the hype and scare-mongering and step up and take responsibility for these people.

We've actually got senators going off about 'letting terrorists into America' while if they were actually asked, would not be able to back up that claim.

And to cap it all off, there's the idiots among the population who lap up all the terror-drivel and actually believe it.

Here's a fact: No one has ever escaped from a Supermax prison facility.

Supermax's contain REAL criminals, convicts, killers, etc. not some 17-year-old kid that George Bush said may have done something bad sometime somewhere.

Keep them in Supermax until or unless they are proven innocent and respective cases are dropped.

You can always tell those Americans who really should know better - they are the ones who make idiot jokes about Gitmo inmates and push for eternal lockup for people who they have no idea whether they are innocent or not.

Yes, that would include RomeoRamenII and Sarge.
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techallAug. 03, 2009 - 03:23PM JST

The fact is Obama has painted himself into a corner on this. Promised to close Gitmo (not the base, just the detention facility) with no viable option. Bite the bullet Obama, keep 'em where they are.
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SushiSake3Aug. 03, 2009 - 03:26PM JST

Gitmo is yet another legacy of the conservative-backed george bush/GOP disaster.
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SuperLibAug. 03, 2009 - 04:38PM JST

Interesting scenario......brings them onto US soil, but keeps some of them under military control which probably gets around some of the Constitutional issues.

The one problem they may never be able to solve are those whose countries refuse to take them back....
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skipthesongAug. 03, 2009 - 05:53PM JST

Gitmo is yet another legacy of the conservative-backed george bush/GOP disaster." Well, shut it down then. Here's your chance.
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sailwindAug. 03, 2009 - 09:45PM JST

Just re-name the place. GITMO under Bush, OOP's under under Obama.
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SushiSake3Aug. 03, 2009 - 10:06PM JST

Sailwind - "Just re-name the place. GITMO under Bush, OOP's under under Obama."

That's yet another conservative who refuses to man up and take responsibility for the mess he helped create.
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sailwindAug. 03, 2009 - 10:16PM JST

Sushi,

Getting the Standish prison ready for the detainees would be costly. One official estimated it would cost over $100 million for security and other building upgrades.

Your Statement

That's yet another conservative who refuses to man up and take responsibility for the mess he helped create.

Garbage...Sushi

That's yet another 100 million I'd rather not see wasted when the solution is already in front of your face. Keep them in Gitmo, spend the 100 million at least on teachers or cops on the beat for goodness sakes.
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SushiSake3Aug. 03, 2009 - 11:01PM JST

Sailwind, I stand by my assertion.

People like you have zero interest in whether or not any of the Gitmo inmates are innnocent. You conveniently buy the bush line that if they are in Gitmo, they're guilty.

That's childish and clearly illustrates you are not thinking hard enough about the problem, let alone a just solution.

"Keep them in Gitmo,"

And if one of them was your son, and you knew he had been picked up by mistake, you'd say the same?

As I said, it's people like you who are a big part of the problem, and it's people like you who breed hatred of the country you profess to love.
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adaydreamAug. 03, 2009 - 11:58PM JST

And when was the last escape from these Super-Max Prisons?

It's going to happen.

We'll be doing clean-up work for another 50 years after bush's blunder. This is just another one of his messes to have to clean up.

Obama is playing janitor to another one of bush and cheney's decisions. < :-)
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SuperLibAug. 04, 2009 - 12:07AM JST

Sushi, all Obama is doing is changing the location and changing the description. You don't support him on this issue, just like you don't support quite a few of his positions because they're largely unchanged from Bush's positions. Your entire support of Obama lies in the fact that he isn't Bush. We could have elected a toothbrush with the same policies as Bush and you'd be here lending support to the toothbrush every night.
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SushiSake3Aug. 04, 2009 - 12:23AM JST

Superlib, you're right, I don't support the continued existence of Gitmo, and I don't support the using of another facility to house Gitmo inmates.

You know who caused this and yet you can't seem to offer any solutionsa.

You are like the little boy who starts a fire in the garage and then abuses the firefighter for coming to put it out.

Obama is damed if he does and damed if he doesn't, thanks to people like you who just aren't man enough to take responsibility for the chaos you helped create.

Obama is doing what he can, under the circumstance - sorry, the disastrous mess left for him by the president you voted for.

He is trying to move Gitmo into America, which I believe, under the circumstances is the best of the worst options.

Superlib, your rants don't help. What would help is some worthwhile suggestions.
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skipthesongAug. 04, 2009 - 11:56AM JST

What would help is some worthwhile suggestions." Well, since several of them are the ones behind 9-11, I would say that even the slightest hint of having their trials there wouldn't be too smart and you should not criticize that.
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goodDonkeyAug. 04, 2009 - 03:01PM JST

Why should Cuba hold the alleged "most dangerous criminals" in the world? Did they have any choice in the matter (except a land lease agreement that by the best of legal terms would have ended in 2003)?

SushiSake3

That's yet another conservative who refuses to man up and take responsibility for the mess he helped create.

Bang On!

Bringing up the costs is just another Red Herring by the conservative(s). We are forcing terrorists on another country's land. It is not American soil. And unlike some idiot's assertion in the past, where he tried to claim Japan's American bases were sovereign, I guess he could not distinguish embassies from contractual American bases, Guantanamo does not have a Status of Forces agreement. So America does not even have that bs to use as rhetoric. Cuba wants us out. No rent comes out of the U.S. Treasury for the entire Guantanamo base.

I want my country to do the responsible thing and get out of Gitmo and take responsibility for their prisoners of war. Housing terrorists on the soil of another country that does not even want us there and considers our occupation illegal is immoral and unethical.

Tear down that prison, Mr. Obama!