U.S. military see benefits in both Obama, McCain

Wednesday 02nd July, 07:00 AM JST

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nethanyahubush at 06:36 PM JST - 2nd July

The best shot the Republicans have for presidency is a new 9/11. In order for Mc Cain to win they will need a 9/11. Do not take my word for it take the Republican word for it.

McCain Campaign Hopes For Terror Attack To Swing Vote

Top McCain strategist Charlie Black tells Fortune Magazine that a terrorist attack on U.S. soil would aid the Arizona Senator to overturn Barack Obama’s lead and be a “big advantage” in helping him become President.

http://visibility911.com/blog/?cat=122

Mc Cain is also the person who wanted to stay in Iraq for 100 years. Where will he get that money from I wonder...

USA millitary is useless. Not only are they criminals but useless too. They need to borrow money from China, Japan to be able to support the unsustainable economy. Their debt is growing faster than Ben Johnson on very strong drugs. US Millitary is the big virus of the century. As USA is trying hard to play the role of a world police man and are not impressing too many people these days apart from not being able to do the job they can not afford it either and they are slowing down the economy in the world too.
RomeoRamenII at 07:01 PM JST - 2nd July

From obama's own website:

Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months.

To make such rigid campaign promise shows he has no business being CinC. He doesn't take into account circumstances change. He is lost and learning foreign policy on the fly.

The democrats could have done way better than backing obama. They just got suckered into 'image is everything'.

Heh, democrat Lemming Day fast appraches.

RR
Betzee at 07:03 PM JST - 2nd July

1) McCain's basically put himself in a bad position from those who are stupid

2) Sounds really informed.

Translation: Stupid people are the ones who don't agree with me.

I have little sympathy for those who whine "I was misunderstood." Express yourself clearly and, well, you won't have any problems.
nethanyahubush at 07:07 PM JST - 2nd July

Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months.

This sounds better than Mc Cain who is hoping for a new 9/11 and wants to stay in Iraq for 100 years and do what he can to make the country go bankrrupt.
rajakumar at 07:12 PM JST - 2nd July

Out of iraq in 16 months, way to go Obama. War presidency will end in 16 months with Obama's rule, real happy news.
USNinJapan2 at 07:23 PM JST - 2nd July

Since this article is about which candidate members of the US military are supporting, I'd like to know for whom the other service members here plan on voting come November. Personally I've run into so few pro-Obama service members in uniform that I just don't know where they're hiding. Can they all be in the Air Force or something? : )
Betzee at 07:30 PM JST - 2nd July

1) The guy from the article sounds like he doesn't quite grasp what McCain's statement was.

2) Sounds really informed.

Two valiant keyboard warriors question the intelligence of someone who's putting his life on the line for an effort they continue to believe in but he has ceased to.
RomeoRamenII at 07:39 PM JST - 2nd July

USN,

When I stop into The New Sanno I ask the active duty folks at the Fairwinds who they think their CinC will be on this day next year. I have yet to hear any of them say it will be obama. When asked why, most of them point out that he shows no loyalty to anyone and they are concerned that they, too, will be thrown under the obama bus in a heartbeat.

RR
Taka313 at 08:06 PM JST - 2nd July

I would wager that ramen's unofficial poll is HEAVILY influenced by his own personal politics. When ramen is talking to strangers at a bar about politics, I'd wager most agree with him right off the bat so as not to get him started (just a guess, mind you).

As for me, I wouldn't talk about politics with anyone whom I don't know well. As with religion, it's a very touchy subject and one where people could become easily offended. So, obviously, the people I talk to about politics are more liberal in nature as a whole and therefore, favor Sen. Obama. over Sen. McCain.

For a totally unbiased observation, I offer you this: I've seen 1 Sen. McCain bumper sticker and 2 for Ron Paul but none for Sen. Obama onboard CFAY.

Taka
LFRAgain at 08:22 PM JST - 2nd July

adaydream,

Umm... I understand your frustration with Bush and the self-absorbed, self-righteous a-holes who supported his march into Iraq, but you're waaaaay off base with your comments about American troops stationed in Japan, Germany, and South Korea.

Our troops in Japan are keeping the Japanese from attacking us again?

No, our troops are in Japan to keep nations still angry about WWII from attacking Japan.

The troops in Germany are keeping the East and West Germans apart.

No, our troops in Germany are fulfilling their treaty obligations as members of NATO and protecting Europe from potential Russian aggression, which isn't something imaginary, given the history between Europe and Russia after WWII.

The troops in Korea are keeping the North Koreans from attacking our western coast?

No, our troops are in South Korea to keep North Korea from attacking Japan and incorporating South Korea by force. If you'll recall, there was a civil war this past century in which North Korean forces were fought to a stalemate at the 38th Parallel. If you'll recall, North Korea and South Korea are still technically in a state of war, having conducted no peace negotiations for the better part of 50 years.

Again, I understand your frustrations, but don't muddy the issue with misunderstandings and misinformation.
Kijimuna at 08:52 PM JST - 2nd July

RomeoRamen, as mentioned before, the line on Obama's website is the posturing he is doing for his base. The overall picture is dramatically different. To wit: http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obamas-iraq-minefield/

I think if he doesn't get ahead of this and starts taking a genuinely executive hold of his image and message, his aides will have him shadowboxing every 527 and McCain supporter that talks to the press. All that glow will be forgotten by November. What I'm hoping is that he's got more substance that an empty suit. If he doesn't he shouldn't be president. Photos of the inauguration of the first president of color will be a hugely cathartic moment for the country. The only problem is that from day two on, Obama's true color could show, with that color being green.

I'm no McCain supporter, but the vacuum of leadership in the United States has been and is a danger to global stability. How Israel--3 million people in a country with fewer square miles and world-class universities than New Jersey--can produce more senior statesmen and women, including female heads of state, than the US is more a slap to the US than it is a triumph for the Israelis. The US has some national sh*t to get together.
RedMeatKoolAid at 10:27 PM JST - 2nd July

"Two valiant keyboard warriors question the intelligence of someone who's putting his life on the line for an effort they continue to believe in but he has ceased to."

Ooowwhhhh. Yes, it still amuses after all these years how the Chicken Hawk 'argument' is supposed to be incontrovertible proof of the moral superiority of a group of people who like to call themselves "liberal" when it is about as liberal as the demand that anyone who disagrees with you be sent to the front.

I question not Sgt. Ralph's intelligence, patriotism, or valor, but how well-informed he is on McCain's policies. And I find his narrative a little too convenient for the mainstream media, now openly partisan and even willing to admit it.

Voted twice for Bush! But it turns out he lives in San Diego. What a rare bird in those parts, eh.

I seriously doubt McCain (2 sons been to Iraq) and Obama are viewed equally by those in the armed forces.

Any candidate who wants to cut military spending as drastically as Obama can hardly inspire confidence.

Any candidate who launched his political career from the home of a former terrorist (seen the latest Obama - Bill Ayers vid?) who tried to bomb the Pentagon probably doesn't inspire a whole lot of loyalty.
Sarge at 10:44 PM JST - 2nd July

Taka313 - For a totally unbiased opinion I offer you this: I've seen one McCain T-shirt and zero Ron Paul or Obama T-shirts at the Bangkok Express Snack Bar at the Tomodachi Lanes at Yokota.

Just Secret Sarge
Sarge at 11:16 PM JST - 2nd July

Actually another major successful terrorist attack in the U.S. might get Obama more votes. It would be seen as a failure by many by the current Republican administration to protect us. Of course the fact that the current administration, along with the military, has prevented another attack for nearly 7 years wouldn't count in their minds...
Kijimuna at 04:10 AM JST - 3rd July

MarieDevine, obviously the biggest problem with the syncretic world view in your post is that it only works from a God's-eye view of the world--from thousands of miles up. Down here on earth, we mortals have been bickering about what exactly if anything God has been telling us to do. By word of God in government, I assume you mean Sharia law. Or is it some top ten you've picked from the Quran, New Testament and Tanakh? You should just say so rather than wrapping it in all this fluff.