Friday February 17, 2012

U.S. missiles kill 12 at Islamic school in northwest Pakistan

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    Madverts

    All NATO countries should be drafting those in our society that have been living off benefits for more than two years into the army, train 'em and send them to fight in aid of Pakistan.

    Two birds with one stone as they say.

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    WilliB

    And how is an "islamic school" different from an Al Quaeda training camp? Both teach the ideology and practicalities of of jihaad. The artificial distinction between the two exists only in the mind of the Western journalists.

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    teleprompter

    All NATO countries should be drafting those in our society that have been living off benefits for more than two years into the army, train 'em and send them to fight in aid of Pakistan.

    Why? Not going to tell us Pakistan is a NATO creation, are you?

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    Den Den

    "All NATO countries should be drafting those in our society that have been living off benefits for more than two years into the army, train 'em and send them to fight in aid of Pakistan." Give them bibles to take too.

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    likeitis

    WilliB: And how is an "islamic school" different from an Al Quaeda training camp? Both teach the ideology and practicalities of of jihaad. The artificial distinction between the two exists only in the mind of the Western journalists.

    What nonsense. Its amazing that you seem to have not learned a thing despite so many quite clear and education posts in response to this kind of nonsense over many months. Does your memory get wiped every time you reboot, putting you back in default setting or what?

    Jihad is not about terrorism. Jihad is old. Islamic terrorism is new. Islamic schools are old. Al Quaida training camps are new. And I cannot be bothered to explain more what with your memory getting wiped every time your power on button gets pushed. Not even sure if this simple explanation made it past your anti-Islam firewall.

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    Madverts

    "Why? Not going to tell us Pakistan is a NATO creation, are you?"

    Because I'm sick of all the people that sit at home whilst others go to work. Your "who created Pakistan" "argument" is as lame as it ever was.

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    Madverts

    willi....

    I thought the taliban were taking control of Pakistan?

    Heh....another conspiracy bites the big one.

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    Sarge

    Madverts: "I thought the taliban were taking control of Pakistan?"

    What made you think that?

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    Wolfpack

    Here we go, Obama expanding the war into Pakistan. What country is next, Iran? What a war monger...

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    Sarge

    Wolfpack ( 11:22 PM ) - Har!

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    Madverts

    "Here we go, Obama expanding the war into Pakistan."

    Uhm, no. Pakistan have taken the war to the Taliban. Like our friend sarge, you should trying reading the article, and Idunno, mayne shedding the election bitterness now we're 7 months on?

    "What country is next, Iran? What a war monger..."

    More Obama Derangement Syndrome. Get some assistance.

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    WilliB

    likeitis:

    " Jihad is not about terrorism. Jihad is old. Islamic terrorism is new. Islamic schools are old. Al Quaida training camps are new. "

    Sorry, but that is nonsense. The jihad and terrorism as a tool in the jihaad is as old as islam, and madarassas teach it. Al Quaeda is nothing but another modern offshoot of a 1400 year old struggle. The separation between the two is artificial, and repeated by ignorant Westerns. You really should inform yourself about the subject before lecturing on it.

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    likeitis

    The jihad and terrorism as a tool in the jihaad is as old as islam

    Examples please. Any donkey carts laden with gun powder getting blown up in front of foreign occupier military bases? How about the old suicide barrel backpack, predecessor to the suicide vest, where a guy blows himself up in a market place via a barrel of gunpowder on his back? Trireme hijackings?

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    Madverts

    " You really should inform yourself about the subject before lecturing on it."

    Heh, from the man who claims "Europe will be an Islamic colony by 2050"?

    Mate, you've been posting all this year how the Taliban will be taking ove Pakistan....until the offensive began, that is.

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    Helter_Skelter

    Islamic terrorism is new

    No it isn't. The Arabic term "fedayeen", meaning to sacrifice oneself, has been around for centuries. The fedayeen mujahideen, holy warriors willing to sacrifice themselves, have a long history of terrorism. They were essentially criminals who terrorized and attacked civilians, such as the Palestinian fedayeen of early last century. Islamic terrorist groups today are based on the fedayeen mujahideen tradition.

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    Brunobear

    There appears to be some common ingredients the peoples who occupy arid, rocky or sandy desert areas have in common. Criminal gangs and despots that survive by preying brutally on others. Helter Skelter you seem to be on the right track.

    I understood the Mujahideen in Afghanistan that successfully defeated the Soviets with US support, became the Taliban. Al Quaeda, a group of Arab wannabes, were never allowed into the fight by the Mujahadeen. That is why when that war ended they went with their now dead leader, Bin Laden, to places like Egypt to undertake terrorism to get attention and relevance, but were soon suppressed and returned to Afgahnistan/Pakistan where they could hide like mice in the remote rocky ground, ride around in threatening and crowded rear trays of standard Toyota utilities, indulge in gratuitous guerilla warfare and plan how they could irritate the world, but never be a Government because that meant responsibility. They are indicative of other small idealistic miscreants using faith in its various forms as a way of filling in their day while indiscriminately killing innocent people just trying to make a living and survive. That is why they resort to the illicit drug trade. Afghanistan a major producer and Israel, on its own admission, the highest user of illicit drugs on earth. Some Israelis say it is because of the high level of anxiety being permanently surrounded by hostiles which you can understand. In Afghanistan it seems more of a cultural opportunity for gain. At the other end of the spectrum in the lush US and Europe, illicit or recreational drugs seem to be just a very bad lifestyle choice. America tries hard to manage the drug trade because the damage is severe. The twelve who died in the school are part of the tragic price of being born into a lawless area. Illicit drug users are the fifth column that enables these terrorists to prosper and cause the West to waste money better directed on numerous other beneficial needs.

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    Wolfpack

    More Obama Derangement Syndrome. Get some assistance.

    Not a very original sentiment. Obama must be opposed not because he is hated, but because he is bad for America and bad for the future of freedom and liberty in his own country and around the world. I just find it odd that Obama slammed Bush during the campaign for doing the exact same things that he is doing now - invading a country, tribunals, not outlawing "torture", using Gitmo, etc. Pakistan didn't attack America - so why is Obama attacking Pakistan? What did Pakistan have to do with 9/11? By the Left's definition, Obama is a war monger. Hmmm... I guess he just said all those terrible things about Bush because he wanted to get elected - not because he really meant it huh! America heck yeah!!! Go Obama!!!

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    likeitis

    Helter_Skelter: No it isn't. The Arabic term "fedayeen", meaning to sacrifice oneself, has been around for centuries.

    How does "sacrificing oneself" equate to terrorism??? I saw a movie where a grenade got lobbed into a foxhole and one guy laid on it and sacrificed himself to save his buddies. You saying he was a terrorist???

    Look man, sacrificing oneself in battle is a whole other ball of wax to sacrificing oneself to kill a bunch of civilians. One is terrorism and the other most certainly is not.

    You guys are disgusting the way you see what you want to see and equate things as willy-nilly as is convenient for you at the time.

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    Den Den

    We should show some respect and praise to individuals who feel so strongly about an issue to actually give their lives for a cause. Although I am totally against all forms of violence, their actions are far more honorable that the cowardly and seemingly indiscriminate bombing from an airplane. Semper Fidelis...

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    likeitis

    Den Den: their actions are far more honorable that the cowardly and seemingly indiscriminate bombing from an airplane.

    I will agree that dropping bombs from a plane when civilians will likely die and you have a near zero chance of being shot down is the anti-thesis of courage.

    I am not sure whose actions exactly you are calling honorable, but I can tell you that if I were a poor Afghan the guys in the planes would be last oens I have on ounce of respect for. Suicide bombing of civilians is also worthy of scorn, but at least it can be said it took some balls even if it also took a scumbag.

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    teleprompter

    Although I am totally against all forms of violence, their actions are far more honorable that the cowardly and seemingly indiscriminate bombing from an airplane.

    Is it the infidels fault that Mohammedan nations cannot build airplanes?

    Do you actually believe their pride would prevent them from using planes if they could?

    They seem pretty handy with other infidel inventions - like the AK-47 and RPG's.

    Say - do you find it "honorable" the way their disfigure a school girl's face by tossing acid on her - not from an airplane, no, but from a moving motorbike ?

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    likeitis

    teleprompter: Do you actually believe their pride would prevent them from using planes if they could?

    It does not matter. They are not the yardstick we should measure ourselves by.

    They seem pretty handy with other infidel inventions - like the AK-47 and RPG's.

    They might be more than happy to fight with swords if we do the same. I think they expect to die, but not so uselessly as to fight helicopters with arrows.

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    Helter_Skelter

    Likeitis: How does "sacrificing oneself" equate to terrorism???

    Suicide bombers.

    teleprompter: They seem pretty handy with other infidel inventions - like the AK-47 and RPG's.

    Yes, they love the Infidel's technology. :-)

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