If the US is going to battle global warming, I think they should allow another set of thoughts. Too many scientists who debated GW were kicked to the curb because they didn't agree or refuted GW.
Thank you, I do see your perspective and do not discount it, in fact I would like to see that achieved. Hey, I don't want to live in a mud hut either. It just seems to me the decision to have less offspring is more practical than say, constructing a nuclear power plant. It's clearly only part of the solution but would give us tangible environmental benefits within the first generation. Socially and economically it may be difficult and would have great impact model of the "western standard of living" that is clearly not sustainable for an increasing population at the moment. Will the human race ever agree on anything?
Question - If the world climate was getting colder, would the environmentalists be mandating driving more SUVs and otherwise doing everything we can to increase carbon emissions?
I can do without a car. I lived in cities my adult life. Can do with PT or a bike. heck I usually walk to my office here in Tokyo.
You are not alone on this. Recently an American friend of mine, and her husband, decided to buy a house inside a pro-environment community where one of the basic rules is to go without a car. Only in emergency situations, and you have to use one which is shared by 3 other houses.
Isn´t that nice? :)
You will have to pry my car and hamburger out of my cold dead hands."
keep eating those hamburgers. They'll be pulled out of your dead hands in no time.
lost: "decided to buy a house inside a pro-environment community" May I ask where? IN the US? I was thinking about getting involved in something like that in the UK, but I pulled out.
I think instead of building housing projects and condos, the US government should build pro-environment housing units and use solar powered cars to get things moving around.
I personally feel the whole global warming is a scam. I am involved in the alt energy business these days. We need to keep the politicians out of this. I am telling you right now. We don't need the gov to tell us to buy or make a non-gas car, or to eat less meat or polute the air. We can do it without the gov's intervention.
To point this out, right now, the gov is blocking a lot of alt energy companies progress.
Hey, explain again your line of thoughts? You mean that he is to blame because the documentary and the books all were best-sellers? And if they were failures then Al Gore would be alright to you and your folks now? Can´t you understand that the movie and the books were sucessful just because people ARE interested in what we can do to make a better future? It doesn´t matter if it is Al Gore or your grandmother raising the flag, it just happen that he raised it first. Naturally, he is the face of the environmentalist movement now. One of the few that almost everyone agrees on.
I'm just pointing out that there's money to be made off of panic and a lot of people are cashing in. And I don't remember saying that I blamed anyone for anything just that some particular people are making quite a tidy profit off of the global warming scare. Whether or not I believe that my old clunker of a car is killing the world is irrelevant.
I have to agree with neverknow2. Why does anything have to be a battle or against global warming, why does it have be combated? War on obscure things(Terrorism, Drugs and etc.) are pointless and never really work.
Carbon reduction and America's energy independence go together. The less oil burned, the less amount of American dollars that spent on foreign oil. Why not just say that America is interested in increasing it's energy independence.
Good luck Hilary with the greenhouse gases. Let's not forget what the small print in Japan's Kyoto Protocol submissions said. No, nothing about sustainable development: "We pledge to build more roads." (Check the transcripts, go ahead.) Maybe Japan can learn from the US on this one?
Good old global warming back in the news. Better get that carbon trading scheme set up so we can push the economy deeper into recession. Let's hope that unlike everything else this adminsistration has been pushing someone actually demands to know the price tag before we jump off a cliff for the likes of Al Gore.
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Midnightpromise at 03:30 PM JST - 28th April
Before spending billions and billions of badly needed money, let's first agree that man had, has, or can have anything to do with, CLIMATE CHANGE.
skipthesong at 03:43 PM JST - 28th April
If the US is going to battle global warming, I think they should allow another set of thoughts. Too many scientists who debated GW were kicked to the curb because they didn't agree or refuted GW.
Otaru at 03:53 PM JST - 28th April
Midnightpromise,
Thank you, I do see your perspective and do not discount it, in fact I would like to see that achieved. Hey, I don't want to live in a mud hut either. It just seems to me the decision to have less offspring is more practical than say, constructing a nuclear power plant. It's clearly only part of the solution but would give us tangible environmental benefits within the first generation. Socially and economically it may be difficult and would have great impact model of the "western standard of living" that is clearly not sustainable for an increasing population at the moment. Will the human race ever agree on anything?
Sarge at 04:48 PM JST - 28th April
Question - If the world climate was getting colder, would the environmentalists be mandating driving more SUVs and otherwise doing everything we can to increase carbon emissions?
Sarge at 05:07 PM JST - 28th April
@TJ - Do you really think that man's actions are causing the Earth to warm?
skipthesong at 05:49 PM JST - 28th April
I can do without a car. I lived in cities my adult life. Can do with PT or a bike. heck I usually walk to my office here in Tokyo.
Otaru at 06:09 PM JST - 28th April
You will have to pry my car and hamburger out of my cold dead hands. These are two things I will never sacrifice!
LostinNagoya at 06:30 PM JST - 28th April
skip:
You are not alone on this. Recently an American friend of mine, and her husband, decided to buy a house inside a pro-environment community where one of the basic rules is to go without a car. Only in emergency situations, and you have to use one which is shared by 3 other houses. Isn´t that nice? :)
skipthesong at 07:18 PM JST - 28th April
You will have to pry my car and hamburger out of my cold dead hands." keep eating those hamburgers. They'll be pulled out of your dead hands in no time.
lost: "decided to buy a house inside a pro-environment community" May I ask where? IN the US? I was thinking about getting involved in something like that in the UK, but I pulled out.
I think instead of building housing projects and condos, the US government should build pro-environment housing units and use solar powered cars to get things moving around.
I personally feel the whole global warming is a scam. I am involved in the alt energy business these days. We need to keep the politicians out of this. I am telling you right now. We don't need the gov to tell us to buy or make a non-gas car, or to eat less meat or polute the air. We can do it without the gov's intervention.
To point this out, right now, the gov is blocking a lot of alt energy companies progress.
TheQuestion at 08:45 PM JST - 28th April
I'm just pointing out that there's money to be made off of panic and a lot of people are cashing in. And I don't remember saying that I blamed anyone for anything just that some particular people are making quite a tidy profit off of the global warming scare. Whether or not I believe that my old clunker of a car is killing the world is irrelevant.
Good_Jorb at 11:18 PM JST - 28th April
I have to agree with neverknow2. Why does anything have to be a battle or against global warming, why does it have be combated? War on obscure things(Terrorism, Drugs and etc.) are pointless and never really work.
Carbon reduction and America's energy independence go together. The less oil burned, the less amount of American dollars that spent on foreign oil. Why not just say that America is interested in increasing it's energy independence.
LIBERTAS at 11:31 PM JST - 28th April
Good luck Hilary with the greenhouse gases. Let's not forget what the small print in Japan's Kyoto Protocol submissions said. No, nothing about sustainable development: "We pledge to build more roads." (Check the transcripts, go ahead.) Maybe Japan can learn from the US on this one?
usaexpat at 11:54 PM JST - 28th April
Good old global warming back in the news. Better get that carbon trading scheme set up so we can push the economy deeper into recession. Let's hope that unlike everything else this adminsistration has been pushing someone actually demands to know the price tag before we jump off a cliff for the likes of Al Gore.
LIBERTAS at 12:03 AM JST - 29th April
Al Bore to Billary Clinton: "Pssssttt! I'll show you MY carbon credits if you'll show me YOURS!"
VOR at 05:34 AM JST - 30th April
lets start by flying the presidents 747 and a couple of f16's around NYC for a photo op.