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Voting for president begins in pivotal Ohio

World Oct. 01, 2008 - 06:32AM JST ( 6 )

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CavemanLawyerOct. 01, 2008 - 10:32AM JST

Ohio is crucial to McCain’s electoral strategy.

So if the engineers at Diebold did their jobs correctly, there computerized vote stealing machines will give the election to McCain no matter how many voted for Obama. --Cirroc
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adaydreamOct. 01, 2008 - 01:19PM JST

Every state is crucial. Every state is hurting because we're suffering from 6 years of the republican stronghold on the goverment and the last two years the lame duck that wouldn't listen to the people.

The democrats will be reaping a few more seats along with the presidency this year. < :-)
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proxyOct. 01, 2008 - 02:14PM JST

There is plenty of evidence that all electronic vote recording machines and vote tabulators are easily hackable and there are plenty of examples of strange results and completely wrong tabulations.
And I'm not just blaming republicans. Two democrats in Ohio were convicted of voter fraud after the 2004 election. Anyway, it seems like how many votes one gets is becoming less important than how many of the other guy's supporters one knocks of the rolls.
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CavemanLawyerOct. 01, 2008 - 04:03PM JST

Anyway, it seems like how many votes one gets is becoming less important than how many of the other guy's supporters one knocks of the rolls.

Nonsense. If you filled your petition with the names of the deceased and those outside of your voting area, you have no right to run. And why should anyone deign to run against someone who cannot even get the names of legit living people at the grassroots on a petition? That is just inviting corruption. If you keep such an illegitimate on the rolls, you legitimize them and they could defeat you with more lies and dirty tricks.

There is plenty of evidence that all electronic vote recording machines and vote tabulators

Electronic is pretty title. There are many kinds of electronic voting machines. The problem here is with computerized machines, some actually connected to a network. That is just asking for it.

Some countries, it is the law that the votes must be made and counted by hand. It makes sense. More hands means more trust. If the vote gets stolen like that, then the people were corrupt anyway. And if the people are too lazy to this, then they do not deserve democracy. --Cirroc
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CavemanLawyerOct. 01, 2008 - 04:05PM JST

proxy, I should have thanked you for you last post. I am happy to see that at least one other can see the problem those machines represent, and is non-partisan enough to see that both sides will partake and steal democracy from us. --Cirroc