“For us this is what the institution was created for ... the fight against impunity” at the highest level, spokeswoman Geraldine Mattioli told journalists in The Hague. I have another list of candidates for the Court: Bush, Cheney , Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Zacheim, Tenet, Blair, Olmert, Netanyahu, and the guy still on life-support, Arik himself. And acknowledgment of the legitimacy of the court should be irrelevant.
Advocacy group Human Rights Watch would say their possible arrest would be “very exciting”. Indeed. Practically the entire world would agree!
Libertas,
I noticed all the possible criminals you mentioned. I noticed you are only concerned with 1. those who are not of Islamic nature, 2. those who have gone to war with Muslims. Why not Johnson, Kennedy, Nixon for Vietnam? Trumen for Korea, Regan for Libya, Grandeda, Russia's Gorby for invading Afganistan, China for invading Tibet?
Why do only those who go to war against Muslim get punishment and others don't?
I saw a story about this on the news today. Apparently only women go to some areas to get supplies because the men will get killed if they go. And when the women go they get raped. That's their choice...rape or death.
skipthesong They're almost all dead! By all means add Gorby, but I think it was one of his wooden predecessors (Chernyenko or the other stiff, Andropov) who ordered Afghanistan. Can't remember who was in China when Tibet was invaded, probably Mao. If so, he's dead too! And frankly I don't care a whit what religion the people were who these thugs invaded and killed. It's a crime against humanity, regardless of race, creed, orientation, etc. etc. etc. I'm tired of seeing the shattered, charred bodies of innocents being scraped from walls and pavements, splashed their by thugs of whatever creed, uniformed or not. Ya commit the war crime, ya do the time! Too bad Slobo didn't live to get sentenced. Or Ken Lay of ENRON for that matter! That was a war crime of sorts against ordinary hard working Joes and Josephines too. I have a special lamp post reserved for Cheney, al Duce! I dare say big Mo in Libya deserves to be on this list. As do a half dozen micro-nations we hardly ever hear of too. Not to mention some faction leaders both sides in N. Ireland, the former Yugoslavia and even here in Japan. A few black-van men could do with some scrutiny too.
Destroy the "peace process"? What "peace process"?
The international war crimes court is a good idea in priniciple, but unless hard power is used to bring these individuals into the courtroom, they doesn't seem to be very useful threats.
I can't believe that the government of The Sudan has done to these people.
Then we scream and holler about countries that are just flexing their muscles and these people are dieing by the 100s.
Now peace keepers being killed.
The peace keepers should have many many more troops. They shouldn't be allowed to take offensive action, but a force larger than needed to protect the aid workers. < :-)
The peace keepers getting killed is absolutely disgusting. If you're just going to sit there and watch them get killed without any response then you may as well drop them in and write "target" on their foreheads. What's the friggen point?
Thats what the blue helmets are for. Its been how many years and still nobody has stood up. I guess poor people are further down the list than poor people living on a oil tank.
The peace keepers getting killed is absolutely disgusting. If you're just going to sit there and watch them get killed without any response then you may as well drop them in and write "target" on their foreheads. What's the friggen point?
Until nations like China stop supporting Sudan, and the AU steps up pressure the killings are going to continue.
Another foolish attempts by the western world.
The ICC has no credibility or repuatations of fair and justices,it was just a place to screw up those leaders of certain countries. Just like the execution of saddam huessein, it was a vengeance instead of a fair trail. The Arabs, the african union ,China and Russia alll backing Bashir and certainly he dont gives a mere care about those accusations. In fact the geinocide of Darfur was a myth, a fabricated charges with political motive and a hidden agenda. It was the west greeding the oil in sudan not in humanitarian issue because they are using the human rights as a political tool to raise up morale standard that theyw ere looks like very noble ! If the ICC deserved to be trusted, then MacNamara, Rumsfled,Cheney these people should eb sending there first!
China and Russia will certerianly backing Bashir and he will be OK just like Mugabe!
Who is supporting those African rebels or better known as terrorists? Why those power having interests to support the rebels? For freedom?
Nonsenses. Those who against the Sudanese govt were western oil companies who attempted to steal Sudan's oil and those were known as robbery and they deserved to goto ICC for trails. This is fair!
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LIBERTAS at 11:56 AM JST - 12th July
“For us this is what the institution was created for ... the fight against impunity” at the highest level, spokeswoman Geraldine Mattioli told journalists in The Hague. I have another list of candidates for the Court: Bush, Cheney , Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Zacheim, Tenet, Blair, Olmert, Netanyahu, and the guy still on life-support, Arik himself. And acknowledgment of the legitimacy of the court should be irrelevant. Advocacy group Human Rights Watch would say their possible arrest would be “very exciting”. Indeed. Practically the entire world would agree!
RepublicofTexas at 11:58 AM JST - 12th July
While Bush has not been a very good president he has not ordered ethnic cleansing and a number of other heinous acts.
However the court will never be able to try him. This will only antagonize Sudan more.
skipthesong at 01:07 PM JST - 12th July
Libertas, I noticed all the possible criminals you mentioned. I noticed you are only concerned with 1. those who are not of Islamic nature, 2. those who have gone to war with Muslims. Why not Johnson, Kennedy, Nixon for Vietnam? Trumen for Korea, Regan for Libya, Grandeda, Russia's Gorby for invading Afganistan, China for invading Tibet?
Why do only those who go to war against Muslim get punishment and others don't?
SuperLib at 03:42 PM JST - 12th July
I saw a story about this on the news today. Apparently only women go to some areas to get supplies because the men will get killed if they go. And when the women go they get raped. That's their choice...rape or death.
LIBERTAS at 06:07 PM JST - 12th July
skipthesong They're almost all dead! By all means add Gorby, but I think it was one of his wooden predecessors (Chernyenko or the other stiff, Andropov) who ordered Afghanistan. Can't remember who was in China when Tibet was invaded, probably Mao. If so, he's dead too! And frankly I don't care a whit what religion the people were who these thugs invaded and killed. It's a crime against humanity, regardless of race, creed, orientation, etc. etc. etc. I'm tired of seeing the shattered, charred bodies of innocents being scraped from walls and pavements, splashed their by thugs of whatever creed, uniformed or not. Ya commit the war crime, ya do the time! Too bad Slobo didn't live to get sentenced. Or Ken Lay of ENRON for that matter! That was a war crime of sorts against ordinary hard working Joes and Josephines too. I have a special lamp post reserved for Cheney, al Duce! I dare say big Mo in Libya deserves to be on this list. As do a half dozen micro-nations we hardly ever hear of too. Not to mention some faction leaders both sides in N. Ireland, the former Yugoslavia and even here in Japan. A few black-van men could do with some scrutiny too.
Madverts at 06:37 PM JST - 12th July
Destroy the "peace process"? What "peace process"?
The international war crimes court is a good idea in priniciple, but unless hard power is used to bring these individuals into the courtroom, they doesn't seem to be very useful threats.
adaydream at 06:55 PM JST - 12th July
I can't believe that the government of The Sudan has done to these people.
Then we scream and holler about countries that are just flexing their muscles and these people are dieing by the 100s.
Now peace keepers being killed.
The peace keepers should have many many more troops. They shouldn't be allowed to take offensive action, but a force larger than needed to protect the aid workers. < :-)
SuperLib at 07:10 PM JST - 12th July
The peace keepers getting killed is absolutely disgusting. If you're just going to sit there and watch them get killed without any response then you may as well drop them in and write "target" on their foreheads. What's the friggen point?
DXXJP at 09:10 PM JST - 12th July
Thats what the blue helmets are for. Its been how many years and still nobody has stood up. I guess poor people are further down the list than poor people living on a oil tank.
RepublicofTexas at 09:33 PM JST - 12th July
Until nations like China stop supporting Sudan, and the AU steps up pressure the killings are going to continue.
reddragonguy at 07:58 PM JST - 15th July
Another foolish attempts by the western world. The ICC has no credibility or repuatations of fair and justices,it was just a place to screw up those leaders of certain countries. Just like the execution of saddam huessein, it was a vengeance instead of a fair trail. The Arabs, the african union ,China and Russia alll backing Bashir and certainly he dont gives a mere care about those accusations. In fact the geinocide of Darfur was a myth, a fabricated charges with political motive and a hidden agenda. It was the west greeding the oil in sudan not in humanitarian issue because they are using the human rights as a political tool to raise up morale standard that theyw ere looks like very noble ! If the ICC deserved to be trusted, then MacNamara, Rumsfled,Cheney these people should eb sending there first! China and Russia will certerianly backing Bashir and he will be OK just like Mugabe!
reddragonguy at 08:00 PM JST - 15th July
Those peace keepers were expensedables, do you believe that matters big countries interests because of a few of them got shot?
reddragonguy at 08:01 PM JST - 15th July
The Hague.... It is not the time for those Europeans come out to world stage yet. Big brother in Moscow and Beijiang were the one who say yes or No
reddragonguy at 08:05 PM JST - 15th July
Who is supporting those African rebels or better known as terrorists? Why those power having interests to support the rebels? For freedom? Nonsenses. Those who against the Sudanese govt were western oil companies who attempted to steal Sudan's oil and those were known as robbery and they deserved to goto ICC for trails. This is fair!
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