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With statehood, Palestine ready to end all claims

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Hamas is agreeable to this?

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Palestine will never make a succesful stand alone state. But for the sake of peace let them try.

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Abbas is too kind to the zionists, still they are too pig-headed to grasp the chance of peace.

"a land with no people for a people with no land" was the zionist propaganda call to "jews" to occupy Palestinians land. The world turned a blind eye.

The only chance for lasting peace in the region is if all those so-called jews stop the violence and genocide, and go back to their own country.

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To their own country? ...Huh?

Ah, so, what you are saying is that there is no chance for peace then, Blockntackle?

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To their own country? ...Huh?

Yep, their own country. Those who moved from the US can return to the US, those from Russia can...

It certainly does not make any sense to demolish homes of Palestinians, who have been living there for many hundreds of years, to build a home for a Jew from the US, Poland, Russia, … just because they happen to belong to a particular sect. And all this at the expense of US tax payers.

The only thing that would truly work is a one-state solution, including the right of return, with equal rights for everyone.

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Where would the boundaries of such a state run?

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And all this at the expense of US tax payers.

and in that line of argument, let's cancel the UN. It is a drain on the US taxpayer, and they act completely against any and every US interest.

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why are they "so=-called Jews"? surely they are definitely Jews. May be "so called Israelis'...... likely there is no chance for peace - who knows, maybe Revelation was right all along and Armageddon will start in the middle East..

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Meanwhile, Israel said Sunday it has resumed indirect talks with the Hamas rulers of Gaza on swapping hundreds of Palestinian prisoners for a captive soldier held for more than four years.

shows the relative value Israel puts on lives....

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Why should Hamas or any Palestinian accept Israel’s political demands, like recognition, when Israel refuses to recognize basic Palestinian demands like the right of return for refugees?

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The conflict is the outcome of aggression and occupation. The Palestinian struggle against the Israelis is not because they are Jewish, but because they invaded Palestinian homeland and dispossessed the Palestinians.

WHy should Palestinians accept that because the Jews were once persecuted in Europe they have the right to take Palestinian land and throw the Palestinians out? The injustices suffered by the Jews in Europe were horrible and criminal, but were not perpetrated by the Palestinians so why should Palestinians be punished for the sins of others or be made to pay for their crimes? This question is asked by everyone with a reasonable mind even including Iran. Who is it that is unreasonable here? It most certainly is not the Palestinians but rather the oppressors and the supporters of oppression.

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they have the right to take Palestinian land and throw the Palestinians out?

You oppose the U.N.?

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Mittsu,

shows the relative value Israel puts on lives....

Yeah, they value the lives of Israeli Jews, but they have a complete disregard for all non-Jewish lives. Actually, they have on a number of occasions sacrificed Jewish lives to further their cause.

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You oppose the U.N.?

Interesting how they point to the UN to support their creation, but when the UN clearly tells them it is inadmissible to take land by war and to return to the pre-1967 border, they completely ignore the UN. Funny that!

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neogreen - Israel has every right to defend themselves against palestinian and muslim aggression. Israel is a sovereign nation, so-called "palestine" is not. The U.N. decided that.

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Israel should keep building. Hamas should end all claims, period.

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Israel can defend itself as much as it wants from stolen land according to international law which is 1967 borders which US also agreed to.

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Actually, they have on a number of occasions sacrificed Jewish lives to further their cause.

so what were these occasions?

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Israel should keep building. Hamas should end all claims, period.

All settlements according to international law which US also agreed to states very clearly. Every single settlement in occupied West Bank, East Jerusalem is illegal.

Every single Palestinian leader including Hamas has said. A realistic peaceful settlement to the conflict will have to begin with a ceasefire agreement between the two sides based on a full withdrawal of Israel from all the territories occupied in 1967.

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Actually, they have on a number of occasions sacrificed Jewish lives to further their cause.

so what were these occasions?

There are some documented cases of attacks against Jews in various countries that were later found out to be carried out by zionists to convince Jews to move to Israel. Look it up.

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Abbas needs Israel more than Israel needs Abbas.

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Abbas needs Israel more than Israel needs Abbas.

Yes, very true. Abbas is a traitor to the Palestinians. The Palestinians need Abbas as much as they need a hole in the head.

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The Palestinians need Abbas as much as they need a hole in the head.

Yes, yes, how much better off they would be letting Iran - set to amputate this week the hand of a man who stole some chocolate - run their lives,reinvigorate and rearm the frontline Mohammedan cannon fodder, er, I meant shock troops.

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Yes, yes, how much better off they would be letting Iran - set to amputate this week the hand of a man who stole some chocolate -

Assuming that is true, that will not be a problem for the Gazans since the Israelis don't even allow chocolate to enter Gaza (unless that changed with the recent "easing").

Anyway, look at the response Ahmadinejad got a few days ago in Lebanon. He is very much liked in the Middle East, people there probably know more about Iran than westerners who are constantly spoon fed the same BS. Abbas is not liked all that much by the Palestinians themselves.

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"more than 165 rockets and mortars have been fired at Israel from Gaza so far this year"

What's up with that?

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"more than 165 rockets and mortars have been fired at Israel from Gaza so far this year"

What's up with that?

Normal human beings in an overcrowded prison without all the basic necessities tend to get rather upset after a while. What's up with you not knowing this?

Anyway, how many rockets and mortars were fire AT Gaza so far this year, by the Israelis?

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Hamas is the only party to this conflict that is seeking a solution based on International law and the Universal declaration of human right. That is why the elected representative of the Palestinians are demonized and the electorates are persecuted. In this case Israel is violating international law.

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He says resignation is not an option for now.

Israel has had since 1988 to recognize Palestinian statehood. Looks like the Palestinians have laid all the cards on the table, and Netanyahu and pundits here are balking. That means we know what cards you holding, and they are bias for Israel and contempt for Palestinians and possibly the wild card of "holocaust sympathy" despite the fact that most survivors are dead. Those cards do not justify stolen land or blockades of collective punishment. And some wonder why they shoot rockets into Israel? Opposing this deal, even balking, shows that some like the rockets and would like some more!

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"more than 165 rockets and mortars have been fired at Israel from Gaza so far this year"

What's up with that?

If occupation ends and Palestinians exercised self-determination, there would then be no need for any violence. The reality is that nearly 20 years of peaceful negotiations between the Palestinians and the Israelis have not restored any of Palestinian rights.

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Much of the Palestinian resistance is non-violent, but we only hear about the violent ones. The Palestinians have many times shown strong interest in real peace with the Israelis, and each time the Israelis got scared and vicious; the last thing they want is peace, what they want is more land (look up Greater Israel).

Peace Offensive #1: In the mid-1970s the PLO began supporting a two-state settlement on the June 1967 border. The PLO, headquartered in Lebanon, was strictly adhering to a 1981 truce with Israel. In August 1981 Saudi Arabia unveiled, and the Arab League approved, a peace plan based on the two-state settlement. Arafat was contemplating a historic compromise.

Israeli response: Fearing diplomatic pressures, Israel maneuvered to sabotage the two-state settlement and stepping up preparations to destroy the PLO. Israel conducted punitive military raids deliberately out of proportion against Palestinian and Lebanese civilians in order to weaken PLO moderates, strengthen the hand of Arafat's radical rivals, and guarantee the PLO's inflexibility.

To fend off Arafat's "peace offensive" Israel embarked on military action in June 1982. The Israeli invasion had been preceded by more than a year of effective ceasefire with the PLO, but after murderous Israeli provocations, the last of which left as many as 200 civilians dead (including 60 occupants of a Palestinian children's hospital), the PLO finally retaliated, causing a single Israeli casualty. Israel used the PLO's resumption of attacks as the pretext for its invasion.

Now does this sound familiar or what!!!!!! The exact same MO with Hamas a few years ago. Hamas strictly adhering to a ceasefire and making a peace offensive and the Israelis react in the exact same way!

Israel would immediately get peace if it moved back to its pre-1967 borders and started respecting international law and basic human decency.

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The Israelis are mad to think there can ever be a settlement with any of these people - it will come down to a fight to the death.

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This is a good start. The Israeli Government, Fatah and Hamas all need to get behind a real peace deal.

Meaningless rehashing of the supposed history of the conflict add nothing new.

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Meaningless rehashing of the supposed history of the conflict add nothing new.

Yeah, it would be convenient for you and your friends to forget the past. But it is important to understand that this is not simply a conflict between two groups who do not get along. It is a conflict between an aggressor (Israel) and an aggressee (Palestine), between a land robber (Israel) and a victim of land theft (Palestine), between an invader (Israel) and a forcibly expelled (Palestine). These facts cannot be ignored.

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sabiwabi,

I have no idea who you think my 'friends' are. However, you seem to be too invested in this conversation to discuss it rationally. You have your opinion of history and others have other opinions. I could not care any less about either. They truly mean nothing. As such, these 'facts' that you assert should be ignored in favor of peace. Sorry you don't think that is reasonable. However, reasonable it is. That is probably why things won't got that way. The Middle East extremism never seems close to being reasonable.

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It is not a very difficult conflict to solve. A realistic peaceful settlement to the conflict will have to begin with a ceasefire agreement between the two sides based on a full withdrawal of Israel from all the territories occupied in 1967. Every Palestinian leader agrees to this, the international community agrees to this, USA agrees to this. What Israel and the international community now needs to do is to start respecting international law and agreements.

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neogreenjapan,

Don't you think it would be better to have a peace agreement in exchange for a withdrawal rather than a ceasefire?

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I think peace agreement and ceasefire is better than today's situation.

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Don't you think it would be better to have a peace agreement....

The problem is that, as I have demonstrated above, the Israeli side is terrified of a peace agreement and they get vicious every time they see the Palestinian side showing clearly that they are seriously interested in a peace agreement.

It is clearly the Israelis' fault that a peace agreement has not been reached, and it is clearly the Palestinians who have been suffering. Israel's goal seems to be to make Palestinians suffer so much that they would be willing to accept any agreement regardless of how unfair it was.

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sabiwabi,

You might not have notice, but in my question 'or give up on peace because it is impossible' was not one of the choices. However, thanks for playing 'This is my version of history'.

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