29th case of mad cow disease confirmed in Japan

Does anyone know of anyone who got sick or died from eating beef infected with BSE? Anyone? Repeat: Anyone? We all know that spinach is the real killer.

Bon-Appetite

 

DO you really believe no BSE meat has made it to a supermarket?

 

Japan tests 100% of cow for BSE.

America tests 1%:

Other Nations?

True story: I just ate some spinach from a farmers market and I did not wash it. I got sick (flu), but since it's the fall and I have allergies, I was due. Wash those veggies, cook your meat and life is boring.

= Remember that Bush won that election (twice).

 

Oz beef - yummy - safe!
Kiwi beef and lamb.... yummy - safe!

 

Safe until tested. Better get yourself checked for STDs or consider monogamy (but even then?)

 

When the japanese govt never ever warns its public about the dangers of eating toxic meat(mercury) like whale (even encourages the public to eat whale), bluefin tuna, kingcrab, mackerel etc etc. How in the world can anyone be sure that japan tests "100%" of its beef?

 

"When the japanese govt never ever warns its public about the dangers of eating toxic meat(mercury) like whale (even encourages the public to eat whale), bluefin tuna, kingcrab, mackerel etc etc. How in the world can anyone be sure that japan tests "100%" of its beef?"

Mercury doesn't change your brain to a sponge. How high is the concentration of Hg in whale meat? Is it higher than in other fish? Is it higher than in other countries?

Is eating fish in general reported to be healthier or less healthy than eating meat? What country has the highest live expectancies?

How can you be sure that the USA tests even 1% of its beef? How can we be sure no human victims have been reported?

The disease manifests itself gradually, especially in people arround 50 to 70 years of age. Can you wait a few decades to conclude whether or not US beef is safe? I'd hate to be the victim of your impatience.

One of the symptoms of CJD might be stupid and aggressive behaviour I think. Can we be sure no Americans were infected? :p

 

LOL in MORE ways than one buddy, more ways than one ;)

 

why don't they just feed them grass? What's with all the meat and bone? When did cows become carnivore?

 

rverbeke- Mercury is a dangerous toxin which severly affects the human nervous system, and we've been over the concentration level thingy before, no need to embarrass you again. And the "compare" thing is so lame, give it up.
Yes, certainly fish is generally healthy for you than eating beef, it is common knowledge you are not telling us anything knew here. However certain fish and shellfish do contain the toxin mercury in them. Stop throwing red herrrings into the discussion.
Which country(s) has the highest life expectancy? Andorra and San Marino.
If you feel safe eating japanese beef go ahead, but I won't. If you feel it is unsafe eating the other beef
that's fine. Incidently the other beef is not part of the discussion now is it?
By the way. Why would trust the japanese government especially when they find no direct correlation bewteen tobacco and lung cancer?

 

"Mercury is a dangerous toxin which severly affects the human nervous system, and we've been over the concentration level thingy before, no need to embarrass you again."

That might be, I didn't see it. Fair enough.

"And the "compare" thing is so lame, give it up."

Hum, who brought up fish and mercury to compare them to beef and BSE? It wasn't me.

"Which country(s) has the highest life expectancy? Andorra and San Marino."

Nice work. Now let's consider the life expectanies of the 2 countries we were talking about before you brought up Andorra and San Marino.

"If you feel safe eating japanese beef go ahead, but I won't."

But you will eat US beef which is banned for consumption in half of the civilized world?

"By the way. Why would trust the japanese government especially when they find no direct correlation bewteen tobacco and lung cancer?"

But you do believe the US government who sees no connection between greenhouse gases and global warming? You are talking about a country that would sell Mercury as a medicine if it could get a few bucks out of it, what makes you think they care about the health of the Japanese people?

 

rverbeke- I was talking about how country comparisons always come up in relation to japan. Why can't the japanese just say. "Damn, this ain't good so let's fix it." Instead of the usual "Well well well, in xxxxxxxxxxxx country they have the same thing too." As if to say, no, we don't want to do anything about it.
Glad you liked the nice work on the life expectancy thing,and I should add the for the last 6 years of the average japanese persons life, that person is bedridden in a vegetable state. Read it in the Japan Times a few years ago. So in essence the life expectancy thing really and truly means squat when you compare the two countries that you like to compare.
Yes, I'll eat the other beef since millions of japanese do who visit the U.S. and as of now many more japanese will eat that other beef by their own choice.
As for the last bit of your post...WTF does that have to do with what we are talking about?

 

"I was talking about how country comparisons always come up in relation to japan. Why can't the japanese just say. "Damn, this ain't good so let's fix it." Instead of the usual "Well well well, in xxxxxxxxxxxx country they have the same thing too." As if to say, no, we don't want to do anything about it."

Indeed, "damn this ain't good at all". Don't you think for a second that it is strange that US beef is banned in the entire EU? Even if the lack of testing for BSE is not a reason for some not to eat it, all the other garbage that is in it should make any country ban it. "So let's fix it.", indeed. You don't like the comparison because you don't want to see the conclusions that will be drawn from it.

"Glad you liked the nice work on the life expectancy thing,and I should add the for the last 6 years of the average japanese persons life, that person is bedridden in a vegetable state."

Yes, while in other countries people behave like 20 year olds up to the day they suddenly die, right? Wrong.

"Yes, I'll eat the other beef since millions of japanese do who visit the U.S. and as of now many more japanese will eat that other beef by their own choice."

Yes, when they travel to the US for what 5 days? they eat US beef. It would probably take too much time to find something else to eat. Don't Americans who come to Japan eat fish, even though it contains the deadly Hg you were talking about?

"As for the last bit of your post...WTF does that have to do with what we are talking about?"

It emplied that while you think Japan doesn't care about the health of its people and would do anything to get some money, even by selling sigarets, you are defending a country that would sell exhaust gasses as fresh air. Now it is making money by selling potentially dangerous beef to people who don't have the means to eat safer beef, or who don't have the reflex to check whether or not it is safe, who don't have the intelligence to realise it might be not safe to eat it. America is making money from the poor and the stupid.

 

and need to test every head of beef going to market.

This cow, as well as many other young cows, die prematurely. Japan system for testing is similiar to US system for testing in this type of case. Any cow that dies prematurely or becomes lame is tested for BSE. Japan has found 29 such cases, the US two or three.

Japanese consumers are problably more concerned with Japanese beef then they are about US beef.

 

Testing of slaughtered cattle in the US currently running at around 1% - but from late August, this was to be reduced to a little over 0.1%.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13970287/

Meanwhile, countries such as Australia and New Zealand, which have never had an animal test positive for BSE, test at a higher rate than that demanded by the European standards-setting organization (whose name I've forgotten). They also make a point of testing hundreds of healthy cattle brains each year to ensure that cattle which seem to be free from BSE really are healthy, and not just symptomless. NZ cattle brains are used as the "known negative" when evaluating new testing methods.

Australia and New Zealand don't have other TSEs such as scrapies, it's been illegal to import blood and bone for cattle feed in New Zealand at least for over 50 years, and neither country have a tradition of giving cattle animal-based feeds. Both countries have made an effort to cull older animals and keep younger herds to further lower any risk.

As for the number of deaths from vCJD, by 2004 there had been 104 deaths unmistakably from vCJD in the UK, plus another 38 probably attributable to vCJD. That's not counting the non-BSE form, and in some places, there could be good reasons to want to assume that people died of CJD and not vCJD.So how many deaths worldwide? Who knows?