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steen Click here to see all messages by steen Click here to see member profile (Oct 28 2006 - 08:31)Rate | Report
I don't understand this. What happened to students who did not "fulfill" (what does that mean, JT?) the required subjects last year? Did they graduate?
 
it is abundantly clear that
GW Click here to see all messages by GW Click here to see member profile (Oct 28 2006 - 10:35)Rate | Report
all parties invloved, students, parents, teachers, boards, govt, from top to bottom knew about this & did squat & its also clear that this must have been going on for decades. Throw this utter nonsene in with the bullying, need for cram schools, legendary engrish teaching etc etc & the entire education system is shown to be a total lie & a fraud, boy this really takes the cake!!

Now I wait for the news that the colleges & Uni`s, (we all know that almost no work/studying is done there) have been lieing about what courses have been taken etc, anyone think otherwise?

gw
 
steen
anotherebionbarbie Click here to see all messages by anotherebionbarbie Click here to see member profile (Oct 28 2006 - 10:36)Rate | Report
I was wondering the same thing. Maybe last year it happened but nobody thought it was a nationwide problem, only local to the area.
 
From my understanding...
USAkuma Click here to see all messages by USAkuma Click here to see member profile (Oct 28 2006 - 10:46)Rate | Report
The J-teachers told me that a lot of High schools have only been worried about the subjects that will help their students get into the high profile universities. they load the kids up with courses needed to pass the very-selective entrance exams. Everything else is thrown to the side.

Under the table, the universities let this fly to keep enrollment up. But now that the lack of education has been exposed. everyone is pointing fingers at each other.

It reminds me of the stink in the U.S. of H.S. jocks graduating from schools without even being able to read or write...

Of course, Abe may like these kids. He can tell them anything he wants about world history, and they wouldn't know he was wrong. Kimigayo is Great! China and Korea wanted to be sex slaves... etc. Long live the ignorant!
 
Can't see how the schools or the kids...
samrinoma Click here to see all messages by samrinoma Click here to see member profile (Oct 28 2006 - 13:33)Rate | Report
...can be held accountable for the governments mistakes!

Besides which, is the interpretation of 'world history' that which teachers teach as the REAL world history, or is the Ministry of Education whining about the schools not teaching THEIR version of history?

The government should let this go and offer compensation by way of graduation being allowed. It's their mistake, not the kids, so why the hell should the kids be punished for it!
 
If you want to solve this problem here I will do
GW Click here to see all messages by GW Click here to see member profile (Oct 28 2006 - 19:58)Rate | Report
if for you Japan, everybody ready, quiet now, ready

SCRAP THE DAMN UNI ENTRY EXAMS!!!!!!!!!!

then the cram schools wud cease their pathetic reason to exist & just have students do their damn schoolwork!! Pretty original huh. Now how to decide who gets into what Uni/College, easy have schools pass on their grades to the Uni/College they want to apply & have the students fill out info on themselves, their hobbies, sports they like, volunter work that kinda stuff, then let the Uni/College offer a spot or not, then the students get the offers or rejections in the mail & go from there........your welcome JPN!!!

And then make the damn students study & pass or kick their asses out of the Uni/College they decide on.

Abe-san et al I hope yr cheque is in the mail as I just showed how to fix what is clearly very very broke!!!!!!!

gw
 
What Problem?
fireant Click here to see all messages by fireant Click here to see member profile (Oct 28 2006 - 23:47)Rate | Report
Does anyone besides me think that this curriculum broohahaha is blowing up around now so the committee on stopping bullying can quietly fade away without doing anything? Or am I being cynical?

I'm surprised to discover that a lack of education is going on, however. 25 years ago my high school students told me they studied the relevant subjects (math, science, English, Japanese) in their history classes. What, I asked in shock, did the history teacher do while you were studying something else? All my students said the same thing, "I dunno. Talked."

So why did these schools actually take the non-relevant courses off the books? Are they friggin' morons?

Just wondering,

fireant
 
It's all silly anyway
Ah_so Click here to see all messages by Ah_so Click here to see member profile (Oct 29 2006 - 02:06)Rate | Report
I still cannot understand what the big deal of "graduating" form high school is all about. So, you sat through some lessons in complusory subjects and got a piece of paper at the end of it. Surely getting into a good uni is more important?
 
396 schools in 41 prefectures not providing all required subjects
smithinjapan Click here to see all messages by smithinjapan Click here to see member profile (Oct 29 2006 - 02:17)Rate | Report
Once again, it's never THEIR fault, only the fault of the 2002 decision to stop Saturday classes... never mind they started their excuses in 1998.
 
Schools and required subjects
professorfuzz Click here to see all messages by professorfuzz Click here to see member profile (Oct 29 2006 - 18:36)Rate | Report
Whoa! This is not news. Major newspapers have carried articles in the past as to how records have been pencil whipped. This problem has been going on for ages. It's not just in high schools---it's across the board at all levels. Even universities allow people to graduate on the come---Here's your diploma, you owe us a report (usually a flimsy amount of work at most).

To "Fireant" Right on! They talked, slept, worked on their juku homework, copied something from their friends, ate snacks, or weren't there for most of the classes; however, they still passed---and frequently with high grades. Teachers in higher education schools (especially where students are able to select instructors) want to remain popular.
 
396 schools in 41 prefectures not providing all required subjects
shuize Click here to see all messages by shuize Click here to see member profile (Oct 30 2006 - 10:41)Rate | Report
I think I see an opportunity here for the various boards of education to revise their Crisis Management Manuals.

In case of bullying-related suicide go to # 1.

1. "Very sorry. We could not attend to the needs of the students as we were too busy concentrating on their graduation requirements" (see # 2).

In case of failure to ensure proper graduation requirements were met go to # 2.

2. "Very sorry. We could not attend to the needs of the students as we were too busy concentrating on school bullying" (see # 1).
 
The House Of Cards Is Coming Down
111774 Click here to see all messages by 111774 Click here to see member profile (Oct 30 2006 - 11:10)Rate | Report
I am starting to see my theory come to life - Japan is one big charade.
Earlier this year I posted a comment on education in which I alluded to my suspicion on certain subjects missing from the carricula. I spoke specifically of discovering during a routine client staff survey that most twenty-somethings were totally lacking in certain areas. The company confirmed that they'd suspected the same for some time dating back to the bubble era. One of the biggest discoveries I made was that new recruits had overlapping periods in their education that were impossible e.g four years on-campus undergraduate study at a Kyoto university (2000 - 2003) while also boasting two years of study on-campus for a masters in America 2002-2003, yet gradutation from high school (affaliated with the Kyoto university) was in spring 2000. The problem being that the Kyoto school would have provided documentation (separate in all cases) to prove each diploma was legitimate - the US university connected to the Kyoto university home town sister city program.
Confused? Well the point is that far too many "underqualified" individuals have ended up in jobs where they're making million dollar cock-ups every week. And that makes this a more serious issue than some seem to be thinking.
 
What I don't understand.
kilt Click here to see all messages by kilt Click here to see member profile (Oct 30 2006 - 13:29)Rate | Report
How can so many schools not teach the required classes.

I mean, having 1 or 2 schools missing a course makes sense. Or having ALL the schools missing a specific course would make sense. In other words, someone at the top says, quit teaching literature this year. Or a few schools just happen to not be up on the curriculum.
But this seems like some sort of collaboration when a large portion of the schools got together and organized what they would teach, rather than being dictated to from the top.

What about the schools that got it right? Why didn't they go along with the plan?
And the big shocker, world history. How can you not teach world history. Japanese people are so in the dark about anything that goes on outside of these Islands that it almost seems like a sin that they wouldn't teach them world history.
The education system here is really in need of some fixing. Same with the universities. They should really scrap the entrance exams. University should be available to anyone who wants to attend. Universities are centers of learning, where one goes to expand ones mind. They have it all wrong here. The best minds don't always do the best on tests. How many gifted people end up working at starbucks or driving trucks down the Tomei (yah, ok, probably none).
And don't even get me started on English. I used to think the Japanese were fairly decent at speaking english. Then I travelled a bit more and realized they are horrible.

Kilt.
 
Kilt
111774 Click here to see all messages by 111774 Click here to see member profile (Oct 30 2006 - 15:39)Rate | Report
Thank you for a very academic post. I raise my kilt to you Jock. This is a real matter of concern isn't it.

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