3 killers and their parents ordered to pay Y74 mil in compensation for killing teen

Grade A post. A true stunner. The best. I couldn't agree more. There's a certain lack of natural horror and revulsion at some things here. Last night on the news when they were reporting on the murder of that Pachinko parlour manager they showed his blood splattered over the parking lot. This was the 7 o'clock news, not early in the morning. That would never be shown in England. It doesn't inspire you to murder but it does desensitise you to things related to that. At least when you watch a splatter film part of the fun is being shocked and scared by the blood and guts, but there's no fun to be gained by watching reality, just like in wars, where soldiers come home densitised and traumatised. It's interesting a lot of Japanese are scared of going to Hawaii becaue they might have to say "thankyou" in English, but don't mind having blood and guts strewn all over the news at anytime of day.

 

Parents of the murdered girl either allowed her to marry at 16 or were so out of touch with her that she was able to marry at that age, to a guy much older than her, who was heavy into loans. They must've known that an adult who was chasing after a young'un wasn't exactly a pillar of society. The parents either didn't know what their kid was doing, didn't care, or had lost control, and she got whacked. It was a terrible crime, but I'm not sure why the parents of the perps had to be singled out here. Send 'em all to prison forever, execute the ringleader, I got no problems with that...but chasing the families for money? Why?

 

As for this particular crime, I agree that the pseudo husband should have got the death penalty! But criminals should be made to pay as well as serving a sentence, as you know some people are so selfish that nothing short of depriving them of the latest gadgets will actually make them realise how much people hate their crimes.

I want to know more about this fake marriage - how, when, where and why for a start, like how did they convince her it was real, and why didn't the parents call the cops, and what is the legal age for marriage here without parents' consent.

 

yeah, it does seem pretty over the top, with that I will agree. But, keep in mind one thing--of course murder here is generally much more personal. Why? Simple really. Though there ARE guns around (just look at the YAK related crimes the last few months), they are MUCH harder to get than in other places, such as the US. Thus, when someone decides to commit the ultimate crime, it is much less likely to be done at a distance (Unless you have a really good archer or somethin...)

 

this guy was scum of the earth.

it was no "marrriage", he conned her into it to be able borrow money. then when it looked like the scam was going to get outed he got help from a group of his punk friends and killed her.

he got life, though I don't agree with the death penalty in most cases, this bstard should have gotten it.

and the parents should have gotten a hell of a lot more, more than your average traffic settlement as someonme mentioned, not that it will bring their kid back.

parents have to be aware of the crowd their kids run with. this group was a pretty delinquent bozosoku outfit.

 

"and the parents should have gotten a hell of a lot more, more than your average traffic settlement as someonme mentioned, not that it will bring their kid back."

Why? They either allowed their daughter to marry at 16, and thus considered her old enuf to take care of herself, or they didn't know the difference. The justice system gave them what they would've been looking for - harsh sentences for all perps, esp. considering their ages. I don't see any reason to chase after the parents of the perps, who are now being asked to take on more responsibility for their kids' actions than these parents may have. I feel terrible for them for having lost their daughter in such a horrible way, but making the parents of the perps even more miserable is no way to ensure justice, and won't bring her back.

"parents have to be aware of the crowd their kids run with. this group was a pretty delinquent bozosoku outfit."

Which parents? The perps or the vic?

 

the parents were not aware of what was going on. this was one of the things that was brought up when the crime occured. and I think it is the way forward in court cases everywhere, compensation of the victims, through civil suits.



Um the victim being 16 the perp 25 I assumed people would think the victim. But to spell it out for you the v i c t i m. Sorry I didn't specify.

 

"the parents were not aware of what was going on"

Should they have been? And should that have any bearing on their compensation.? Let their 16 year old marry/not know that their 16 year old had married a man in his 20s, then when she gets killed by the riff-raff she had been allowed to hang out with, chase their parents for comp. It's not clear to me that the vic's parents aren't also negligent here.

"Um the victim being 16 the perp 25 I assumed people would think the victim. But to spell it out for you the v i c t i m. Sorry I didn't specify."

Since both the vics and the perps ran with this crowd, it's hard to say which parents should've been aware. They all should've been aware.

Knee-jerk alert:
"I think it is the way forward in court cases everywhere, compensation of the victims, through civil suits."

Easy, Urk. I'm questioning why the vic's parents in this specific case are demanding compensation, considering either the difficulties they had in caring for her or the sheer neglect they showed, not sullying your precious Japan. But good to see that you're on alert.

 

In this specific case the parents of a minor were defrauded by a crook who eventually murdered their daughter. I think they are entitled to some compensation. Quite a bit in fact.

As for running with the wrong group, sure the accomplices who were minors were, but it should be pretty obvious that their parents should have been aware also, the fact that they were named in the suit as well. Which again I didn't think needed pointing out.

But yes the parents of the victim should have been more aware. And you're rignt, it could have been a factor in them getting less compensation.

But not sure how a crime by delinquent kids "sully" a nation?? Is Japan frustrating you this much that everything points back to the nation as a whole?

 

"But not sure how a crime by delinquent kids "sully" a nation?? Is Japan frustrating you this much that everything points back to the nation as a whole?"

That was my point:

"I think it is the way forward in court cases everywhere, compensation of the victims, through civil suits."

I never had a problem with the parents seeking compenation thru civil courts (but I thought Japan wasn't a litigious society?..nevermind that for now). My problem is with the obvious family issues that would've had their 16 year old marry a guy in his 20s.

 

Oh good, the money will bring her back.

 

wrong. maybe a bit of research here. there has always been the concept of monetary compensation for wrongs done. not litigous like the US, but the idea of victim compensation (isharyo) is pretty ingrained.

But I'm glad you agree, The problem was with the obvious family issues in this case. As I said in my first post.

 

I cannot believe how a man is led to kill someone for money. It's totally horrible. A life sentence is perfect as it's a longgg time to think about his waste life. He will also taste in prison the special treatment he deserves for such crime. He will rotten little by little. Hour after hour. Second after second. That's better than a death sentence.

 

nagoyagaijin
i dont really follow ya. Yeah in japan theres less access to guns. So if someone commits murder then they have to be close, got that, but whats with the gruesome methods? In this case hammers and rocks? So youre saying that if you have to do it up close and personal then might as well go medieval?
perhaps we are arguing the samething...not sure....too hot, very hot...

 

I see what nagoya gaijin is saying. being "up close and personal" is why when you see a knife killing by an amateur, there is not one or two but multiple stab wounds. When someone cracks someone on the head with a rock they don't do it once, but again and again. Brutal yes. There was a case where they raped and murdered a girl beat her to a pulp with a crowbar, and finished her off with a sledge hammer... The mob gets bloodthirsty, crazy stuff happens.