Typhoon hits Honshu, leaving 2 dead

Another fine example of the venerable wisdom of our elders.

No trains running for me this morning...

 

I got this message:
"ただ今混み合っております。
申し訳ございませんが、しばらしてからもう一度やり直してください。"

Can't even get own a server to handle the load?

As for this rain storm, waste of time. Who ever heard of cleaning up DURNING a storm. Sounds like a control freak. Someone who can't handle anything out of place for any amount of time. Geeze, what am I writing, that accounts for 90% of Japanese men.

 

Is poking fun at old people hurt in a storm some new form of entertainment? To the uninitiated it seems pretty heartless.
The storm wasn't strong in your area. It was strong in other areas. It that concept difficult?

Outside where I live last night, the trees were bent to the ground, and things were flying through the air. It would have been hard to walk if you were outside. The rain didn't really start, except in spurts, until midnight, but the winds blew strongly for three hours before and three hours after that.

 

Not difficult at all, old boy. Nothing simpler. And I'm a lot younger that the casualties reported, but I figured out long ago that if the weather is bending trees to the ground, it might be an idea to save the tree-clearing for a bit later on when the conditions are suitable.

To go out in demonstrably hazardous conditions when you spend all the rest of the year banging on about how frail-but-wise you are and should therefore be deferred to would seem to indicate inconsistency at best, and extreme stupidity at worst.

Things don't stop being stupid just because the person doing them is old, you know.

 

Which explains why he was out there in the first place... making this point of contention completely worthless.

 

Hear Hear - daft old goat.

It happens every time, doesn't it? Some octogenarian climbs up on his roof in 180km/h winds and blinding rain, and - what a surprise - falls to his death. He can't be expected to stand up for ten minutes on a train, but if he climbs uo onto a wet slate roof in a hurricane we're supposed to view the woefully predictable accident as an unavoidable tragedy and all feel sad.

 

I really don't know the circumstances of the man's death other than that he was removing debris. Was the tree about to break a window? Was the tree about to cut a power line? I don't know. Maybe you're right...that what he did wasn't smart. People all over the world die from doing things that weren't smart.

My point is that someone did die. He has relatives here who might be reading what you wrote, and you are being incredibly arrogant or insensitive in your comments...especially because I suspect you don't know the exact circumstances of the person's death either. If someone spoke about your grandfather this way after a tragic death, whether or not he died in a "smart" way, I suspect you wouldn't appreciate it.

I don't think going through the obits from the storm and making fun of the people is entertaining. Do you?

 

I know what you mean. I can't believe how many young teen surfers in the Atlantic Coastal states try to catch high waves every hurricane season. Of course, they are young ones and not the old, so it has nothing to do with senility, but just plain stupidity.

 

Freakashow

Absolutely right. When young people do it, it's because they're reckless, but if you're old enough to know better it's a tragic and unavoidable accident.

 

What Wottock says is not untrue. Every year you have the odd storm, usually in a tea cup, but just occasionally for real. And every year people die, and how? They get up on their rooves in the middle of a typhoon. Or they go out to check their rice plants and get swept into rivers. Or they decide to ride their bicycles beside canals in 100mph winds.

These people are candidates for Darwin Awards.

 

Maybe the old dudes have been doing it for years, and nothing bad happened, they figure it was safe enough to do.

On construction sites, its the same deal, sometimes the older guys do more dangerous things to save time, their reasoning being it's worked before and nothing bad happened. Still probably better to err on the side of caution but anybody who has old relatives and or friends know they can be stubborn. Wouldn't go calling them dumb, afterall they've been around a long time.

As for people who venture out to "have a look", thats a different story.

 

I understand the point being made, but I think that in online forums, we get used to just saying anything about anyone. This isn't a about a politician or other public figure, though, and this isn't a private forum. The people who died have families, friends, etc., and it's too bad these grieving people have access to criticisms of how their loved ones died from people who neither know the deceased nor the complete circumstances of their deaths.

That said, maybe my reaction was over the top. I read romulus3's comment, then Wottock's comment, and thought of the family. I just felt I needed to say something. I'm probably way off topic anyway at this point, so I'll just let this be.

 

farmboy: You're not totally off. Just because someone did something stupid doesn't mean their death is any less sad for the people they left behind. I hate those stupid Darwin Award sites. I find them extremely insensitive and unnecessarily cruel. Yes, it was probably dumb of the old man to go and clean off his roof in a storm but no, his death is not something to laugh about.

Still, I doubt you have to worry too much about any of his family or friends reading cruel posts about his death on this website.

 

So it's still up in the air whether or not going outside to clean during the typhoon is dumb or not?

Let me know when the results are in.

 

lolaha: So it's still up in the air whether or not going outside to clean during the typhoon is dumb or not?

Let me know when the results are in.

My "probably" was an attempt at sensitivity. Still without knowing what he was cleaning off the roof and why, I'll withhold certainty. Maybe the "cleaning" was more like removing something that was going to crash through the roof or a window. What I am certain of is that a man is dead and that is not funny unless you're completely devoid of sympathy.