3 stabbed to death in Tokyo residence; boy's arms cut off

tekwabs -
I think Marathon was being sarcastic. The whole point is that the death penalty does not deter people from committing horrible crimes.

The poor boy. Modern prosthetics can work wonders, but even so... And by his own father....
I can't even begin to understand this.

 

Where does this sort of thing not make the papers? In countries with no papers perhaps? I can't imagine this not being news anywhere in Europe or Australasia for a start.

This is a truly appalling crime, and let's just hope that a wealthy country like Japan can help the boy towards a full recovery.

 

Yeah, so much more considerate of your family to go to a shopping mall and take 50-60 strangers with you instead.

 

Add in the guy who cut of his mother's arm, plainted it and put it in thew flowers pot, the gaijin who was killed and planted in a bathtub full of sand and the girl who was killed in Osaka who was cut up and put in a box.

Of course, the supposed rape by a gaijin will be talked about more.

 

Yes, but only in English-language "reporting" about Japan. Not in the Japanese press, and the overwhelming majority of Japanese no longer hold to those ideas. But do continue to tell us all about what you think ails Japanese society.

 

WTF???????

 

Thanks for pointing out the irony Cleo. It was early in the morning, and I missed it.

 

I read that the killer was heavily in debt -- the usual story with the high-interest, heavy-handed loan companies -- with the motive being shame. Of course, it takes away nothing from the evil of this man's horrific crime, but its disappointingly in the extreme that Japan only makes a token showing of cleaning up these borderline criminal companies (borderline only in the sense that Japan tolerates them for some strange reason).

Seriously, Japanese society would benefit if the criminals who run these companies were to be locked up and some *effective* regulation were introduced to cover such business and their Yakuza-style collection practices.

 

yeah i think this was another one of those 'if i'm going out i'd better take them all out with me' kind of crap logic situations

it's a total cop-out/quick-fix solution that highlights the lower value attached to human life here
it's been a tolerated all-too-handy solution for too long, a serious flaw as human beings

 

I dont know, I was watching Mino Monta this morning and most of the panelists there seemed to understand why the father felt he had no choice but to "take the family with him". Their words not mine. And when I was talking about it to my J friends they all responded with "The poor 18 year old, he will be left with the debt and he will have to look after his little brother for the rest of his life". Family, honour and shame run deep here, however much you think Japanese society is "westernizing".

 

It's nice to read some sensible postings for a change and to see that there are some people out there who think with the same values.
I am all for disagreement and debate, but it is depressing when you have to argue with other people on this site who have lived here for a long time and have Japanese family, yet are cocooned from what really goes on here.
So thank you for your sensible postings.

Shinji you have a very valid point that no-one else has brought up yet. My Japanese wife also highlighted the subject about the credit loan companies here when we discussed this horrific attack this evening.
How the hell do these gangsters with their illegal interest rates get to advertise as normal business on TV ?
It's ridiculous.

As people such as Goochill love to preach, this country is safe and life is good here.
But I say that there are some very bad things that are allowed to go on here and that includes the credit loan companies advertising and the poor social security safety net (or lack of one) for those falling on hard times.

 

horrible this. However I find it unbelievable the kid was conscious when he declared it was his father, considering the father intended to take the whole family, the kid would have to be in a state of shock. Why leave the boy and cut his hands?
Mercy mercy mercy.

 

They still got nothing on the Italians. And I believe Italians are "westernized".

There is nothing wrong with those three words and the concepts behind them anyway.


I won't bother pointing out the sheer idiocy of the notion that someone with a significant amount of time living in a culture, working in that culture with natives, married to someone from that culture, in short intimately involved with that culture and its people on all levels day in and day out, could be "cocooned" from it. Did you learn everything you know about Japan from watching Tarentino movies?

 

"the supposed rape by a gaijin will be talked about mor"

I suppose your point is being proven as we speak/write. Then again we wont hear from many Japanese on this site, at least, to know.
Frankly I find it frightening that one cant foresee on peoples faces here what theyre up to, after all the population can be quite pokerfaced, as they call it.
Now isnt there something ritualistic about cutting ones offsprings hands, what does it mean or tell the authorities?

 

I know little about Japan, despite having lived here for 8 years and married to my Japanese wife for 14 years. And I don't pretend to preach that I know everything about Japan.

And I'll argue that just because you live here with a Japanese wife and family and socialise with Japanese people means that you automatically know what is going on here.

Anyone who readily dismisses the problem with violent and pornographic manga sold in convenience stores and does not believe that plenty of Japanese men still have the old-fashioned samurai notion of life and death, probably hasn't opened their eyes properly in Japan yet.

Your pun about Tarantino (the Tarantino example is yours not mine) shows how little you have considered this. The film director that you have quoted based Kill Bill (I guess that is the film you are referring to) on his love of gory Japanese samurai manga, thus the gory scenes where people have their limbs chopped off etc. If you read this news story properly you would have read that the father chopped his sons hands off before trying to kill him. So now you're going to tell us all that violent Japanese manga definitely has no connection whatsoever with the many knife attacks and violent rapes that we read about.
Completely dismiss the notion shall we ?