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| Miura can't understand arrest by U.S. police after his acquittal in Japan |  |
badge123 (Feb 25 2008 - 15:16) | Rate | Report |
Betzee, I disagree.
The citizens of Los Angeles put up with the LAPD having helicopters and a giant police motorcade just for escorting Britney spears to the hospital in the middle of the night, they also don't mind the LAPD having car chases everyday just for minor traffic infractions, I don't think they'll be up in arms about the city prosecuting someome for murder!, no matter where he's from. Not withstanding someone who tried to blame their city for a crime he allegedly committed.
If he is guilty in a US court of law then I think the citizens and tax payers of California would like to see him fry. Well they don't have the electric chair in California only injection.
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Someone said she was shot in LA but didn't die there. That DOESN'T MATTER. The direct cause that lead to her death happened in LA, it doesn't matter if she died 10 years later in Antarctica, the fact remains the crime happened in Los Angeles.
| justice |  |
gunmagal (Feb 25 2008 - 17:49) | Rate | Report |
he (allegedly) committed the crime in the US. they have every right to arrest him on US soil and try him in US courts. With what they can do with forensic science these days, I am sure they have enough evidence AND there is no statute of limitations on murder in the USA. not like here where it`s 15 years i believe.
| He's one crazy dude |  |
WMD (Feb 25 2008 - 19:24) | Rate | Report |
to take a holiday in Saipan, american territory. Did he think that the Americans had somehow forgotten all about him or was he counting on a 15 year get out of jail card??
| Miura can't understand arrest by U.S. police after his acquittal in Japan |  |
badge123 (Feb 25 2008 - 20:17) | Rate | Report |
He probably assumed that because he was acquitted in Japan that he was untouchable.
| Miura can't understand arrest by U.S. police after his acquittal in Japan |  |
VoXman (Feb 25 2008 - 23:40) | Rate | Report |
Saipan, american territory
Lots of people in the world don't know that Saipan is a US territory. Shoot most Americans don't even know about Guam.....lol
| Miura can't understand arrest by U.S. police after his acquittal in Japan |  |
badge123 (Feb 26 2008 - 03:54) | Rate | Report |
Thats true, but anyone actually traveling to the area should know, as they need to have a passport and checking on visa status. So yes the average person probably doesn't know, but if you travel to the place you usually research if you need a passport or visa, and in that process they should of found out that Saipan is part of the US.
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robin_hood (Feb 26 2008 - 09:45) | Rate | Report |
From what I have seen in Japan, double jeopardy is not a law. Time and time again I have read about prosecutors appealing decisions and taking their case, the same charges, to a higher court.
Very true, Japan legal system is quite screwy, it is exactly opposite of the u.s.
Assumed guilty, until proven innocent beyond a shadow of a doubt.
That's why I am 110% behind the SOFA, if they want to have their mock-up trials, well, we're going to make them jump through a lot of hoops.
The Japanese system assumes you are guilty at the time of arrest, otherwise you wouldn't be arrested.... RIGHT...?
Yea, right....
I don't even know why defendants in japan are allowed to have lawyers, they aren't really allowed to do much and they certainly wouldn't do anything to defend their client, if it isn't the "polite & correct" Japanese thing to do...
But, it's all about the spirit of their attitude, "Yes, we can!," Not actually what they can do.
| Acquitted in Japan the crie happened in the U.S. |  |
juvenile (Feb 27 2008 - 05:42) | Points: 4 Rate | Report |
According to Yazawa, Miura seemed to be baffled by his detention, saying, "I have been to Saipan before. Why now? I want to see my family immediately."Yeah Mr. Miura you will see your family soon. Bubba your new cell mate
| Acquitted in Japan but guiltiy in the US |  |
juvenile (Feb 27 2008 - 05:59) | Rate | Report |
Just because he was acquitted doesn't make him free in the U.S.
1. The crime was committed in the U.S. Point when service men commit crimes in JP they are tried in JP not the U.S.
2. The U.S. doesn't have a Statue of limitation where a criminal can run and hide or perhaps cross dress and if not caught after 15 years they can say "I'm Free" and live a normal life.
3. Japan police or justice system should take notes from the LAPD a gopher has to come out of his hole sometime.
| Miura can't understand arrest by U.S. police after his acquittal in Japan |  |
tfchui (Feb 28 2008 - 00:28) | Rate | Report |
ignorance does not means innocence.
| "The citizens of Los Angeles" |  |
Betzee (Feb 28 2008 - 07:55) | Rate | Report |
I think you mean "residents" since the City of Angels is not a sovereign country (at least not yet).
they also don't mind the LAPD having car chases everyday just for minor traffic infractions,
Yes, I remember those (too well). It's not the cost of the trial, which will be born by the county, but the incarceration expense that will be born by the state's taxpayers (in the event of a conviction). Those costs, particularly for specialized medical care which requires inmates to be guarded at a hospital "off-site", incurred in confining older convicts is just being felt after the passage of "three strikes" back in the mid-1990s. It will only get worse and threatens to bankrupt the Golden State.
Look, I'm not trying to be cheap. But Mr. Miura was tried in Japan for this crime and acquitted. Retrying him in the USA is a form of double jeopardy (figuratively not literally) and that's the basis of my objection to it.
| Could he be inocent? |  |
Den Den (Feb 28 2008 - 12:19) | Rate | Report |
I am sure when he was interrogated in Japan he would of confessed if he did it. Everyone usually does.
But let everyone wait and see what the new evidence is.
I have great hope that new crime technology can help solve and correct old cases.Good on the guys that go back and examine old cases.
Someone did it...
| Miura can't understand arrest by U.S. police after his acquittal in Japan |  |
Betzee (Feb 29 2008 - 10:50) | Rate | Report |
In the end, it was his own Internet blog that helped Los Angeles detectives nab Kazuyoshi Miura.
The Japanese businessman was wanted for allegedly hiring a gunman to shoot his 28-year-old wife, Kazumi, on a downtown Los Angeles street 27 years ago. Miura, who was wounded in the attack, made it appear to be a random crime, fanning Japanese fears of a city known for its street violence.
Miura was arrested Friday while trying to leave Saipan, a popular tourist destination in the Pacific north of Guam. He had remained in the sights of the Los Angeles Police Department as a generation of homicide investigators came and went....
For the last two years, police had been monitoring a blog written by Miura, who had become a crime sensation in Japan because of saturation media coverage of his case. In recent blog postings, he spoke of his international travel plans, including a possible trip to Saipan....
When Jackson got a call last year from Sakoda about the blog postings, detectives alerted Immigration and Customs officials in Guam and Saipan, both U.S. territories, to be on the lookout for Miura.
On Friday, immigration agents caught Miura as he was preparing to leave the island for Japan. The arrest culminated a case that has spanned three decades and has become one of the most sensational crimes in Japanese history -- that nation's version of the O.J. Simpson case....
Officials said that, based on recent court decisions, prosecuting Miura again in Los Angeles in his wife's murder does not violate the ban against legal double jeopardy.
Jackson, who assisted Japanese officials in their case in the late 1980s, said investigators have a solid circumstantial case against Miura, in part because of evidence developed in the Japanese prosecutions.
"We strongly believe in the case and the evidence against Mr. Miura," he said.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-japanese29feb29,0,6797368.story
| Do It in Civil Court |  |
theclaw (Feb 29 2008 - 16:55) | Rate | Report |
It's not the cost of the trial, which will be born by the county, but the incarceration expense that will be born by the state's taxpayers (in the event of a conviction). Those costs, particularly for specialized medical care which requires inmates to be guarded at a hospital "off-site", incurred in confining older convicts is just being felt after the passage of "three strikes" back in the mid-1990s. It will only get worse and threatens to bankrupt the Golden State.
Yes, incarcerating him will be expensive. Let's go directly to civil court. We'll only need a majority of 2/3 from the jury, not unanimous, and then we'll take all of his assets and set him free, perhaps with an ankle bracelet. Everybody wins.
Yea, do it the gomen nasai way. Have him pay his late wife's family all the insurance money he received on the deal.
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