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Japan Today's Taro Fujimoto went here and there to ask:
What do you think about the government's plan to start fingerprinting and photographing foreigners visiting Japan?
"I think we have no choice because crimes committed by foreigners are increasing and, considering the chaos in the world today, Japan could be a target for terrorists. I know Japanese are also involved in these crimes, not just foreigners. I am not sure if the new system would abuse human rights. Rather than playing up the emotional reactions of foreigners to the plan, I think we should note that such scientific evidence will be useful for crime investigations." |
"I was forced to give my fingerprints in the United States. I felt bad about it. But I also think we need some measures to prevent crimes by foreigners. Having said that, I don't think the fingerprinting system will be as effective as we expect, but it's better than nothing." |
"I don't support the new system at all. I don't understand whether the government wants more foreigners to visit Japan or not. It's really a contradictory policy. I guess there is an idea of 'better than nothing' behind the policy. I feel Japan is becoming a controlled society. But I have to admit the policy may be to some extent effective in preventing and investigating international crimes." |
"I feel we need to do something to make sure there are no terrorist attacks in Japan. I also know that it's only a small number of foreigners who commit crimes in Japan. If I were asked to give my fingerprints in a foreign country, I would feel bad and wouldn't have a good image of that country. But as a Japanese person, I want my country to be safer. I just feel we are in very serious situation, knowing such a system now is going to be implemented. We have no choice." |
"I think the new system will be fine because we need that sort of thing today. I wouldn't mind if I were asked to give my fingerprints abroad. I don't think the system will prevent crimes but it will be helpful for investigations. Anyway, since it has been decided, people should comply with it." |
"I don't support the new system because I was asked to give my fingerprints in the U.S. before. I'm sick of such measures. The system assumes foreigners are potential criminals. I think targeting only foreigners is nonsense because Japanese are also involved in crimes. I think the government will try to collect fingerprints of Japanese nationals in the future." |
"I think it's normal to collect foreigners' fingerprints because there are lots of crimes committed by foreigners. In the past, whenever foreigners have committed crimes in Japan, they have been able to flee the country. Recording their fingerprints and photographs will help track them down. If I were forced to give my fingerprints abroad, I would just accept it as a necessary measure." |
"I think the new system is very harsh toward foreigners. I feel it is a sort of discrimination toward them. If I were asked to give my fingerprints, I would feel bad. I don't think the system will be as effective in preventing crimes as people think because criminals are cleverer nowadays. The news system makes Japan look like a closed country to the rest of the world." |
November 19, 2007
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paprika   (Nov 23 2007 - 08:50) | Rate | Report |
well, they're only giving an example of what other countries will probably be doing in the future...
I tell you, the world is getting smaller.
But I agree of course with those who said PRs should be allowed equal rights as J-nationals at the immg. What's the whole point of establishing oneself in one country, residing in it and not having the regular benefits every other country gives to foreign residents? That part is hard to swallow and illogical.
| paprika | |
| WMD (Nov 23 2007 - 15:20) | Rate | Report |
| What do you think about the government's plan to start fingerprinting and photographing foreigners v | |
| european1 (Nov 23 2007 - 20:57) | Rate | Report |
If you are from third countries like African ones (not insluting anybody) do it. Better J Passport than Ghana, Mozambique or whatever. Good Luck man. You will always be treated as gijin. Remember this.
| 99% Crimes by JAPANESE ONLY | |
| european1 (Nov 23 2007 - 21:05) | Rate | Report |
| WMD | |
| paprika (Nov 23 2007 - 21:29) | Rate | Report |
Btw good to see a nicely worded/expressed post from you :b
It's b/c I normally see you ranting'n'raving in such a blunt way sometimes. Hope you don't mind my little venting (wink).
Take the good with the bad, as they say...though I agree in this case we PRs should've been warned months ago...
| WMD | |
| Ahmadinejad (Nov 23 2007 - 21:31) | Rate | Report |
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| Ahmadinejad (Nov 23 2007 - 21:34) | Rate | Report |
It sucks and it really does make your committment to Japan be seen as trivial. I'd be pissed, too. Cheers.
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| BassBin (Nov 24 2007 - 01:50) | Rate | Report |
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| ulessinfo (Nov 24 2007 - 11:01) | Rate | Report |
Soon, because of people like you who do not care and herded together, when you take out cash from a ATM, the serial numbers will be tracke and where you spend them. For example, you take out 20,000yen and the ATM tracks the 564rt7657 serial number. When you go to 7-11 to buy milk - Bassbin will be recorded on time, date and where you bought your milk.
The more people believe this campaign is to keep out terrorists - is like believing LH Oswald was the lone shooter.
| Media-created Idiocy? | |
| Jean_Colmar (Nov 24 2007 - 23:48) | Rate | Report |
Two conclusions are obviously wrong. Forced fingerprinting will not be effective against Japanese criminal gangs and Japanese using false passports (like aging Red Army members) because the system excludes Japanese from fingerprinting. In this regard, remember that all air crimes over Japan and all acts of terror in Japan in living memory have been committed by Japanese.
When professional journalists write the sort of rubbish you see above what can you expect from the non-critical thinkers in the general public.
Forced fingerprinting will not even be effective in keeping the bad foreigners out. Non-Japanese will be fingerprinted every time they return to Japan and this, as I said, is going to create a cumbersome pile of redundant information that will be impossible to sort out in reasonable tome and will inevitably lead to mistakes in identification.
Forced fingerprinting is going to feed Japanese xenophobia and racism by ipso facto making every foreigner in Japan and every Japanese with a non-Asiatic face a criminal suspect.
One effect of forced fingerprinting may well be a decline in tourism and loss of foreign business. Don’t think that non-Japanese will keep silent about this.
| How to Indentify Japanese Criminals at the Airport | |
| Jean_Colmar (Nov 25 2007 - 00:40) | Rate | Report |
Okay, these interviewees really beg the question: What about Japanese criminals who go in and out of Japan on fake passports, or those who are either demented or ex-criminals and should not have passports at all?
Since these potentially dangerous Japanese are not going to be kept track of by Japanese Immigration, I have a modest proposal, namely that all of us non-Japanese become expert Japanese criminal spotters at airports. This won't be discriminatory at all, of course, because we will employ Japanese police thinking in approaching this problem.
The first thing you have to assume is that every Japanese you see at the airport is a criminal (excluding your loved-ones and friends, of course). Since you cannot force confessions, you must resort to more indirect scientific methods, employing the principle of the Criminal Type.
That is you type-cast everyone whom you assume is Japanese: Yakuza, prostitute, sex fiend, knife-wielding maniac, and so. Since there are lots of Japanese at airports, particularly at Japanese airports, you need make your classifications quickly. It's hard but you'll get the hang of it. (Exclude, of course, loved-ones and friends who are in all cases angels.) Now probably you will be too shy to tell the authorities in your home country about the yakuza, prostitutes, knife-wielding maniacs and so forth on your plane (and there is a chance they won't believe you anyway). So what you have to do is to spread the word in your home country that every Japanese walking the streets is a potential criminal (taking pains to emphasize that your loved-ones and friends have special status). Say it often enough and possibly your hometown newspaper or any number of bloggers will say there must be something to what you say because there ain't no smoke without fire. And when a Japanese is caught doing something illegal, like stalking Brittany Speers, you can say, "See, I told you; and that is only the tip of the iceburg."
Of course, if there is a hysterical reaction to rumors of Japanese crime in your country, you can always say, "I know a few Japanese who are not criminals (my loved-one and some of my best friends are Japanese)" and that will take care of any feelings of guilt you might have.
Note to readers who skim-read and jump to conclusions. The above is satire, which means it is supposed to be funny. If you have not busted a gut by the time you are reading this, go back and reread this post, forgiving all the typos, or you don't get your mike and cookie at nap time.
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| WMD (Nov 25 2007 - 10:51) | Rate | Report |
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| Jean_Colmar (Nov 26 2007 - 00:32) | Rate | Report |
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