CH3CHO's past comments

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    CH3CHO

    smithinjapanMay. 27, 2015 - 07:53PM JST

    And when you can't even take the testimony of both Japanese troops and South Korean, Dutch, Chinese, and Taiwanese, among other, victims seriously you are telling us you would believe the private diary of a Korean?

    There are a lot of testimonies by Japanese soldiers that they used ianfu. But there is no testimony by Japanese soldiers that they abducted Korean girls.

    I have given here the link to US Congressional hearing on comfort women, in which two Korean former ianfu and one Dutch former ianfu testified. The two Koreans each gave written and oral testimonies which contradict each other. That is why I do not take the testimonies by the two Koreans seriously. Generally speaking, testimonies by Koreans have too many inconsistencies. The Dutch woman was rescued by Japanese military police, because the brothel operation was illegal. The Dutch case cannot be generalized.

    There are many testimonies by Chinese women of "rapes", but not those of ianfu. We cannot say much about comfort women based on testimonies about random rapes.

    Posted in: Japanese academics join calls for gov't to face up to responsibility over 'comfort women'

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    sandiegoluvMay. 27, 2015 - 05:50PM JST

    What remains controversial is how many comfort women were recruited, from what backgrounds, and to what extent they were voluntary participants in the system.

    That is about right.

    So, by your logic, we should believe the Japanese government, which burned as many documents as possible

    Then why do not we see any private documents, such as letters and diaries in Korea about the "missing girls"? If Japanese army had abducted Korean girls for inafu, at least some of their parents and friends would have recorded the abduction in their letters or diaries at the time. As far as I know, no such private document was found in Korea yet.

    Posted in: Japanese academics join calls for gov't to face up to responsibility over 'comfort women'

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    CH3CHO

    Naka Nash JpMay. 27, 2015 - 03:35PM JST

    Japan already had apologised to Korea, many times from recent years and paid for those wemen,

    Such acts are soon to be forgotten by Koreans. Actually, there was a very interesting testimony at the US Congressional hearing on comfort women. http://archives.republicans.foreignaffairs.house.gov/110/33317.pdf

    (page 36)

    Ms. KIM(former comfort woman). I have never received Asian Women’s Fund.

    ADDITIONAL WRITTEN INFORMATION RECEIVED FROM MS. KOON JA KIM AFTER THE HEARING

    I did in fact receive money from the Asian Women’s Fund, as it is private fund not related to the Japanese government. I immediately donated all of the money to the Beautiful Foundation to further their campaign of encouraging a healthy culture of philanthropy.

    They will just continue the campaign.

    Posted in: Japanese academics join calls for gov't to face up to responsibility over 'comfort women'

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    CH3CHO

    HotmailMay. 27, 2015 - 10:49AM JST

    Do you think people here are stupid that they can't read the entire English translation of the letter by those 400 historians? It's the same Japanese government controlled Japanese media that plays, and I'm pretty sure this news won't get printed in Japan. If it does, the Japanese media will some how distort it.

    Hello, Hotmail. Nice to see you again.

    In the other thred, I have commented Japanese media has already reported the letter. http://www.japantoday.com/category/politics/view/academics-call-on-japan-to-face-up-to-its-history#comment_1974486

    You responded. http://www.japantoday.com/category/politics/view/academics-call-on-japan-to-face-up-to-its-history#comment_1974512

    HotmailMay. 08, 2015 - 09:53PM JST

    I read through CH3CO's Japanese media links to this story, including NHK, and all of them are reporting that the world historians are on Japan's side.

    By reading all of my links, you must have noticed Asahi reported word by word translation of the letter. So, you knew that it WAS reported without bias.

    Posted in: Japanese academics join calls for gov't to face up to responsibility over 'comfort women'

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    jerseyboyMay. 27, 2015 - 10:31AM JST

    Wow. So when a couple of weeks ago, a similar position was taken by U.S. professors, all the Japanophiles said that they did not know all the facts, or, were just nosy oustiders who should leave Japan alone.

    Japan is proud of its freedom of academic studies. You can see all kinds of views, and marginal views are also welcome.

    But the views expressed by the 16 groups does not cite any source, and I find it unconvincing.

    CrazyJoeMay. 27, 2015 - 08:04AM JST

    A real apology should represent the collective will of the Japanese people done through the Diet. What is the Diet for?

    What Diet is is written in the Constitution. It does not have any formal power in diplomacy and any "apologizing" resolution is unbinding.

    Posted in: Japanese academics join calls for gov't to face up to responsibility over 'comfort women'

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    CH3CHO

    A separate open letter with similar warnings was issued earlier this month signed by several hundred academics, many from Europe and the U.S. and including Pulitzer Prize winners.

    Mainstream historians say around 200,000 women, mostly from Korea but also from other Asian nations, were systematically raped by Japan’s imperial forces in military brothels.

    Do we have to deal with this BS even after "several hundred academics, many from Europe and the U.S. and including Pulitzer Prize winners" denied such number? Read the "open letter with similar warnings issued earlier this month signed by several hundred academics, many from Europe and the U.S. and including Pulitzer Prize winners". https://networks.h-net.org/node/22055/discussions/69206/open-letter-support-historians-japan#replies

    Historians disagree over the precise number of “comfort women,” which will probably never be known for certain. Establishing sound estimates of victims is important. But ultimately, whether the numbers are judged to have been in the tens of thousands or the hundreds of thousands will not alter the fact of the exploitation carried out throughout the Japanese empire and its war zones.

    Next is a typical strawman argument. By writing such sophistry the article will contribute nothing for the victims.

    Japanese conservatives, however, say no official documents prove government involvement in the system

    Next,

    They have also argued that memories of the survivors cannot be trusted

    As people study the testimonies more, things get more confusing. Read some of the testimonies at US Congressional hearing. http://archives.republicans.foreignaffairs.house.gov/110/33317.pdf

    Posted in: Japanese academics join calls for gov't to face up to responsibility over 'comfort women'

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    SenseNotSoCommonMay. 27, 2015 - 09:49AM JST

    A 2012 IMF Report noted that Japan could increase its per capita gross domestic product by nearly 10% simply by increasing the number of women in the workforce to the levels seen in northern Europe

    By the way, there is a joke about GDP calculation that if every house wife does the house works of her next door neighbor and receives money in the same amount that she has to pay to the next door neighbor for her house works, GDP increases by the total amount of money exchanged. The problem is no one gets any better economically in spite of increase in GDP. The IMF report just reminded me of the joke.

    Posted in: Getting more women in the Japanese boardroom

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    CH3CHO

    Ask Japanese women first, then set agenda.

    Take the ratio 3.1%. It represents the share of board seats held by women in Japanese companies, according to a 2014 survey by Catalyst, a leading non-profit organisation focused on expanding opportunities for women and business. Norway leads the way with 35.5% of board seats, the UK 22.8%, and the US 19.2%.

    http://www.catalyst.org/

    http://www.catalyst.org/regions/japan

    Regional Contacts. Emily Wakeling

    Executive Director, Global Membership, phone: +81 (0)3 6860 8450

    Media Contact: Susan Nierenberg

    Vice President, Global Marketing & Corporate Communications, +1 646 388 7744

    I am not sure if they represent women in Japan in any way.

    There are thousands of women's right organizations in Japan. I think they deserves more media attention.

    Posted in: Getting more women in the Japanese boardroom

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    CH3CHO

    YoshitsuneMay. 26, 2015 - 04:13PM JST

    To everyone else, please do read CH3CHO's link to the congressional hearing. O'Herne's testimony from pages 23 - 27 is extremely harrowing indeed.

    I am glad you have read her testimony. It is always good to develop one's opinion based on facts.

    What was her goal?

    Here is another part of her testimony where she makes clear her goal.

    (page 26) Now time is running out. After 60 years, the comfort women deserve justice. They are worthy of a formal apology from the Japanese Government, from the Prime Minister Shinzo Abe himself, and what I call an apology is an apology that is followed by action, the same what the American Government did. It was followed by action that paid compensation to the Japanese that were put in prison camps here but this is the one thing that Japan has never done. Their apology has never been followed by action.

    It seems you think demanding compensation is something wrong. I do not think so.

    While I respect her goal, both Netherlands and Australia waived the compensation claims of their citizens against Japan in San Francisco Peace Treaty.

    By the way, it was American citizens of Japanese origin who received compensation payments from US government.

    Posted in: 450 mostly Western scholars press Abe on war history

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    Brian FowlerMay. 26, 2015 - 08:37AM JST

    It's not about compensation or precise records or exact numbers of victims -- it's the exact opposite of that

    It is your idea. Foremer ianfu strongly disagree with you.

    Here is a link to a US Congressional hearing on ianfu. http://archives.republicans.foreignaffairs.house.gov/110/33317.pdf

    page 39

    Mr. HONDA(Congressman). When you go to the (Japanese) Diet, what is it that you expected the Diet to do?

    Ms. O’HERNE(Former ianfu). I know what I would like to tell the Japanese Government. I would like to give them this message. As you disband in March the Asian Women’s Fund, then start a proper government compensation fund. So when one finishes let them start the proper one of compensation from the government.

    Mr. HONDA. Okay.

    Ms. O’HERNE. And it is never too late.

    She would not demand an apology or acknowledgement, but compensation.

    Posted in: 450 mostly Western scholars press Abe on war history

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    CH3CHO

    JeffLeeMay. 25, 2015 - 05:23PM JST

    "This cemetary honors only those soldiers who have not been identified,"

    And there have proposals over the years by rational and reasonable people for Chidorigafuchi to take on the role of honoring of all war dead. However, the conservatives in Japan (a majority of those in power) reject this and any other idea of having a comprehensive secular memorial.

    It is called Chidorigafuchi Senbotsusha Boen. Senbotsusha means war dead, not limited to soldiers. Here is the Cabinet Order to build Chidorigafuchi Senbotsusha Boen dated December 11, 1953. https://rnavi.ndl.go.jp/politics/entry/bib01171.php

    The Order says the cemetery is to store bones of all war dead overseas during ww2 with no surviving family found to deliver them. It is assumed the war dead is limited to Japanese nationals, but is not limited to soldiers.

    Posted in: Abe honors war dead at Chidorigafuchi cemetery

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    YoshitsuneMay. 22, 2015 - 10:15PM JST

    I really don't think you can claim these scholars are backing you up at all

    The title of the letter is "OPEN LETTER IN SUPPORT OF HISTORIANS IN JAPAN".

    the evidence makes clear that large numbers of women were held against their will and subjected to horrific brutality.

    By whom? Who did it is one of the actively discussed issues in history studies. Many countries in Europe license prostitution. Is licensing authority more responsible or less responsible than brothel owners? Studies show Japanese military "licensed" comfort women run by Koreans and Chinese.

    The letter calls for "freedom of history studies" and "political leadership". But there is potential trade off between them. Political leadership can easily run over freedom of history studies. Also, as long as political leadership is called for, "legalistic argument" is inevitable.

    The job of historians is to find facts. The letter admits historians cannot agree on facts. Do your jobs, historians. Calling for political leadership without establishing facts is only dangerous. The letter should be interpreted to support academic freedom as its title says.

    Posted in: 450 mostly Western scholars press Abe on war history

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    WatchingStuffMay. 22, 2015 - 10:42AM JST

    I am glad you have read the letter.

    99% of the letter is dedicated towards telling Japan to accept responsibility and quit distorting history.

    The coordinater of the letter has different idea from you where the heart of the letter is. http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/05/20/national/history/scholars-signing-statement-urging-japan-address-wartime-past-doubles/

    Alexis Dudden of the University of Connecticut, another scholar leading the campaign, said of the rise in signatures: “goes back to the heart of the open letter about the need to support open discussion in Japan to leave an honest record of its past for current and future generations.”

    The letter says,

    Like our colleagues in Japan, we believe that only careful weighing and contextual evaluation of every trace of the past can produce a just history. Such work must resist national and gender bias, and be free from government manipulation, censorship, and private intimidation. We defend the freedom of historical inquiry, and we call upon all governments to do the same.

    So, the government of Japan, the US, China and Korea should stay away from the history, and let historians have open discussion. This news this February proves there is no "academic freedom" in Korea as long as ianfu is concerned. http://ajw.asahi.com/article/asia/korean_peninsula/AJ201502180058

    The Seoul Eastern District Court on Feb. 17 said sales and publication of “Comfort Women of the Empire,” written by Park Yu-ha, a professor of Japanese literature at Sejong University, can resume only after the passages are deleted.

    I am with the 450 historians, support open discussion, and am against government involvement.

    Posted in: 450 mostly Western scholars press Abe on war history

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    CH3CHO

    WatchingStuffMay. 22, 2015 - 02:41AM JST

    Have you read the letter signed by the 450 scholars? I am just quoting from what they signed.

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    CH3CHO

    Road to hell is paved with good intentions.

    Posted in: Japanese aquariums vote to stop getting dolphins from Taiji hunt

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    CH3CHO

    Am I the only person who have read the letter signed by the 450 academics?

    https://networks.h-net.org/node/22055/discussions/69206/open-letter-support-historians-japan#replies

    The discussion here is so far away from what the 450 agreed. It is a victory of Japanese historians and all who support fact based history.

    Historians disagree over the precise number of “comfort women,” which will probably never be known for certain. Establishing sound estimates of victims is important. But ultimately, whether the numbers are judged to have been in the tens of thousands or the hundreds of thousands will not alter the fact of the exploitation carried out throughout the Japanese empire and its war zones.

    No more BS like "Main stream historians agree there were about 200,000 comfort women."

    Posted in: 450 mostly Western scholars press Abe on war history

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    Luce-AMay. 21, 2015 - 01:10AM JST

    Has anyone actually found out who is behind this?

    Professor Alexis Dudden of the University of Connecticut, and Professor Jordan Sand of Georgetown University

    You can read their interview article by Peter Ennis (in English) here. http://toyokeizai.net/articles/-/69928

    And where does the 450 figure come from? (Exaggerating numbers is the norm in this game).

    You can see the name list of the 450 academics here.

    https://networks.h-net.org/more-450-scholars-japan-support-worldwide-open-letter-war-and-historical-memory

    You can also read the open letter from the link there. By reading the letter, I think, you would have quite a different view from Linda Sieg's article.

    Posted in: 450 mostly Western scholars press Abe on war history

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    CH3CHO

    YoshitsuneMay. 20, 2015 - 08:36PM JST

    I think you need some common courtesy. You said,

    YoshitsuneMay. 20, 2015 - 07:31PM JST

    @CH3CHO I commented on your post, and you are now deflecting to avoid making a proper response.

    Now you say,

    YoshitsuneMay. 20, 2015 - 08:36PM JST

    if it consists of nothing but deflection you can expect a withering response!

    IF?

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    CH3CHO

    YoshitsuneMay. 20, 2015 - 07:31PM JST

    I commented on your post, and you are now deflecting to avoid making a proper response.

    Which post of mine? Did you ask any response from me?

    Posted in: 450 mostly Western scholars press Abe on war history

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    CH3CHO

    Elizabeth HeathMay. 20, 2015 - 06:54PM JST

    Many countries have apologised for previous human rights violations.

    It seems the 450 historians have different view from yours.

    https://networks.h-net.org/system/files/contributed-files/japan-scholars-statement-2015.5.4-eng_0.pdf

    None of the imperial powers of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, including the United States, the European nations, and Japan, can claim to have sufficiently reckoned with their histories of racism, colonialism, and war, or with the suffering they inflicted on countless civilians around the world.

    Posted in: 450 mostly Western scholars press Abe on war history

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