Thursday February 16, 2012

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    CavemanLawyer

    Well spoke Caveman.

    Thank you.

    Now that the US Congress has bailed out Wall Street the world has evidence enough that the free market ideology was nothing but false ideology.

    I think that is saying too much. I think it is safer to say that no one system or ideology is perfect and combinations must be used. In general, free market is pretty good, but obviously some industries need more over-sight. Some might need some temporary support rather than a complete bail out though. Some things should be allowed to collapse, but just delay it.

    Be suspicious of anyone claiming a one pure way. If there was such a thing, we would have found it by now.

    --Cirroc

    Posted in: Bush team, Congress negotiate $700 bil bailout

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    CavemanLawyer

    SwiftBoatVet,

    In many ways you are earning my respect with your policies. But you have to accept that the superwealthy, the one percent of Americans that hold 38 percent of all the wealth , the five percent that own 59 percent of the wealth, the twenty percent that own 80 percent of all the wealth, are not like you.

    The top 1 percent of families hold half of all non-home wealth.

    http://multinationalmonitor.org/mm2003/03may/may03interviewswolff.html

    The situation is not acceptable. And it is only getting worse. The link is from 2003. Obviously more of the rich now technically own more housing. That is how we got into this. I think we would be fine if more of the super wealthy and even moderately wealthy had your attitude and policy.

    --Cirroc

    Posted in: Bush team, Congress negotiate $700 bil bailout

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    CavemanLawyer

    Agreed, Betzee. If only the US had a market like Cuba's we wouldn't have to worry about $700 billion dollar losses because the entire market itself would be worth less than $700 billion.

    Take THAT, capitalists!

    Having an issue with free marketeers does not mean one supports Cuban style reform in the U.S. But if you think a new system is going to make Cuba a rich nation, I think you have been toking off the capitalist hookah a little too long.

    The system and hard work has helped America become rich. But if not for the resources that Cuba never had, we never would have gotten where we are today, not in a thousand years.

    But if you would like to tell us all about Cuba's "Golden Age" under a different system, then be my guest. Just remember that it does not count if the rich got rich by driving the poor further down than they already were. It also does not count if slaves were used.

    --Cirroc

    Posted in: Bush team, Congress negotiate $700 bil bailout

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    CavemanLawyer

    why should i stop being rich, when i ahve worked almost everyday since leaving school.

    Because the need of others to have a home outweighs your need to sell their property to recoup your losses on a stupid investment?

    I shall maintain my modest standard of living

    I thought you were the richest in your neighborhood?

    and avoid get rich uick property buying or share buying that many were hoodwinked into by greedy bankers.

    Well, if you have already been doing that then what are you worried about? I do not mind people getting rich per se, I only have a problem when there are no limits and people get squeezed dry. The integrity of no man's wealth outweighs the need of all men to have the basics of life.

    This crisis is caused by rich shareholders (mostly Democrats) who cream off hard working folks cash into their own pockets.

    Groundless and ridiculous statements like this are not going to earn Republicans any love. In fact, you make people like me think you all must a bunch of nutcases. Do yourself and your party a favor and start speaking when you have proof and holding your tongue when its your scizophrenic side is trying to talk.

    --Cirroc

    Posted in: Bush team, Congress negotiate $700 bil bailout

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    CavemanLawyer

    More from the religion of peace in Pakistan. And the US and EU will continue to claim that the islamic republic of Pakistan is an "ally".

    WilliB, you seem to have lost the plot. The government of Pakistan was the target, I will bet it has something to do with being a western ally.

    --Cirroc

    Posted in: Czech ambassador among 53 killed in Pakistan Marriott bombing

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    CavemanLawyer

    George Bush may not be popular but history will judge Bush as the one who flushed out the killers and warned the world of their existence

    What re-education camp have you been attending?? Al-Quaeda has been on the radar clearly since the bombings of the Twin towers back on February 26, 1993.

    And any president would have gone after the perpetrators of 9/11, to the point of violating Afghanistan's sovereignty if necessary. But at least another president might have been willing to negotiate with the Taliban to get bin Laden. Bush refused completely to so, even a little bit, despite Taliban offers.

    "Flushed out the killers" has a bit of truth in it, though I note that bin Laden is still out there and the real perpetrators of 9/11 died on September 11, 2003. But "warned us of their existence" is so far out there that you simply have to be one of those misguided folks who think Bush is some kind of messiah.

    --Cirroc

    Posted in: Czech ambassador among 53 killed in Pakistan Marriott bombing

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    CavemanLawyer

    The world’s largest atom-smasher has been shut down for two months following a helium leak,

    The leak was detected because all the physicists' voices went squeaky.

    --Cirroc

    Posted in: Atom-smasher down for two months: CERN

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    CavemanLawyer

    But we can't function without them and maintain our standard of living.

    Time for everyone to stop pretending to be rich, and for the truly rich to lose some fat. Time for everyone to start living in the real world again, and I don't see a problem with that except some fantasy withdrawal symptoms.

    I think if more people were living in the real world, there is no way we would have Bush in the White House 8 years and no way we would have troops in Iraq and all the debt that came with it. We certainly would not have this crisis either. If this will wake people up to the real world and get them to start doing the things that are important, and analyzing what is important, then I welcome it. The past 8 years have been pretty stupid for America. This kick in the posterior I welcome so long as we can keep families in their homes despite the pigs in finance howling for cash.

    --Cirroc.

    Posted in: Bush team, Congress negotiate $700 bil bailout

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    CavemanLawyer

    but the Chinese investors would expect Uncle Sam to make good on its obligations.

    The Chinese are also welcome to invest more carefully. They took the same risks as everybody else. But I predict they will be back.

    Had Bear and Stearns been allowed to go under, "about 30 percent of the hedge funds in the country would not have been able to execute virtually any transaction for the following thirty days.

    Like I say, I am no finacial whiz kid. Sounds like some people would be locked into their investments. Maybe even lose them. If people thought what they were doing was not a gamble, I think this is a nice time for a hard lesson.

    Confidence is great. But over-confidence will kill us worse.

    --Cirroc

    Posted in: Bush team, Congress negotiate $700 bil bailout

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    CavemanLawyer

    Democrats also are considering attaching additional middle-class assistance to the legislation despite a request from Bush to avoid adding controversial items that could delay action.

    In other words, Democrats are working for you while Bush only wants to save the rich.

    I predict a certain someone is going to come along and tell us that saving the rich is the same thing as saving the poor. Let the rich keep their multi-million dollar homes while you live on the street. They will give a job again eventually. And all will be well. Yeahright!

    Personally, I think its time for the rich to downsize. Maybe the middle-class too, but nobody should be on the street. Remember, its the Dems who are trying to save you, average American. Remember that in November.

    --Cirroc

    Posted in: Bush team, Congress negotiate $700 bil bailout

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    CavemanLawyer

    If Wall Street shut down, there would be no way for their check to Boeing to clear.

    I am no finacial whiz kid, but I do not see how Mac And Mae will take Wall Street down with them. I say, let them go, and erase the debt. People keep their homes, and the loan and credit industry get the message to smarten up and accept that they have to work too, not just sit back and try to pass the buck at a profit. They did not learn from Enron, so this is lesson number 2.

    The whole system needs re-tooled, not just credit and loan. From relaxation of the building codes, to general and automatic protection of people's homes from all creditors including the government, to keeping land prices reasonable. Also banks need to made to be more user-friendly and lose the ability to toss their loans around like a hot potato.

    Some public service announcements reminding the average American to live within his means would also be nice, but the first step is to make that possible as I suggest in the above paragraph.

    But the last thing any of our presidential hopefuls is going to tell any of us is to stop being greedy SOBs, and that goes out to rich and poor alike.

    --Cirroc

    Posted in: Bush team, Congress negotiate $700 bil bailout

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    CavemanLawyer

    That is one major attack.

    I guess its time for the well-heeled and so called "elite" to stop wasting money on luxury hotels and start going to places more secure even if they don't have room service.

    And it might be a good idea to check the list of officials that called in sick that day.

    So what is a terrorist to do when the surge works? Get out of the way and go where there can be no surge.

    But any more attacks like this and our troops might get invited to enter a country for once. This violence might never end. Halliburton and other retailers of $10 paper plates must be quite content. And so must those who just love violence and death. I wish we could just put them all on an island to have their fun away from the rest of us.

    ==Cirroc

    --Cirroc

    Posted in: Czech ambassador among 53 killed in Pakistan Marriott bombing

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    CavemanLawyer

    Yes, NKorea hasn't agreed to a verification of hteir declarations.

    Of terror? No, I think you must mean things related to nuclear power and weapons.

    Not agreeing to verification is not an act of terror. Neither is possession of nuclear power plants. Not even possession of nukes. I can think of no reason to keep N.K. on that list except perhaps a heavy handed attempt at leverage. Or maybe its just spite?

    I prefer my terror blacklist to have real terror states on it, not cobbled together with mere political games. I take terrorism seriously and don't want resources wasted on political sports.

    --Cirroc

    Posted in: N Korea preparing to restart nuclear reactor

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    CavemanLawyer

    Well, those direct talks that the left was pushing and finally got have backfired royally, haven´t they. So GW Bush finally does what the left wants

    What part of "the U.S. government failed to keep its word" did you not understand???

    --Cirroc

    Posted in: N Korea preparing to restart nuclear reactor

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    CavemanLawyer

    I think that Mrs. Clinton is avoiding Palin because if those two women appear together then people will form a mental link. Many people wanted Clinton to be the first female president and would have voted for her just for that. Clinton does not want to transfer that feeling onto Palin to be the first female VP any more than people already have it in their minds. Just being in the same place a the same time might do that.

    As for the decision on the rally, I can understand not wanting it trampled by the political circus elephants (pigs in lipstick?). The stance of the rally is shakey enough as it is. There is no evidence that Iran is seeking nuclear weapons. The rally is a great big strawman shoot of hate, fear and getting people opposed to eachother so as to exploit them.

    --Cirroc

    Posted in: Palin blames Democrats for withdrawn invitation

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    CavemanLawyer

    i wanna buy a flat screen TV, but i can't afford it,

    Get over it. Frankly, until you can afford one, you do not deserve one. But I will give some friendly advice: Comb the classifieds and get a used one.

    You have summed up a good part of how I feel about the mortage crisis though: people thinking they deserve what they cannot yet afford, and that something is of little real benefit to anyone.

    and McCain has loads of houses, tahts bad man.

    He has a few. And houses go up to the rich quite easily, but come back down to people who need them with far, far, far greater difficulty.

    How many houses does one man need? How many should he be allowed to have?

    --Cirroc

    Posted in: Obama, McCain react cautiously to financial rescue plan

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    CavemanLawyer

    People like myself, are the motor, we employ,

    A motor does not employ. A motor is employed.

    we pay are staff well above min wage.

    All year every year no matter how much you personally profited not by hard work or maybe not only, but by simple ownership.

    And I have no idea how you define "well above", but paying well above minimum wage in any case is not something to crow about. The minimum wage is deplorable.

    Pull out a calculator and tell me how long it will take for any of your employees to own anything significant, like land or a small business, on your wages. Don't forget to include expenses for food and rent and energy. Or are you doing something else to help people get ahead?

    Our riches are spraed amongst reglar folk, and everyone benefits.

    Your riches are mostly with you, or you would not be the richest family in you community.

    If the poorest were given more money, it wouldbenefit, drug drealers, bar owners and strip joints.

    Here you have really gone out of your way to justify yourself. You think all poor people are the same, and would just throw it all away. (and what is wrong with bar owners?) Some poor people are quite responsible, and give back to the community what you never could.

    Plus you have made it sound like a big part of your responsibility to the community is to keep them poor so they will stay moral. How about educating people on money? Well that would destroy your stanglehold wouldn't it? You might have to tell them how much you are making and how little you are giving.

    Well, you are right about one thing: wealth corrupts. You are living proof.

    McCain is correct, brave and moral,

    Moral? He tossed his wife out for a younger woman, a woman unaffected by a serious car accident, unlike his former wife. Brave is a yes. But he is decidedly incorrect. But of course, being rich, you will vote McCain to keep your own taxes down, and not out of any moral duty, and you know it.

    Besides exposing your inattention to correct spelling, you have backed up my point of how the rich are pompous and how they need to be made to feel the heat.

    --Cirroc

    Posted in: Obama, McCain react cautiously to financial rescue plan

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    CavemanLawyer

    According to the IRS, the top 50% of all earners in the united states pay 96.93% of all income taxes. The bottom 50% of earners pay 3.07% of all income taxes.

    The reason for this is simply because nearly all the wealth is at the top in the first place. The wealth is pooled there. It is not a set of numbers saying how great the rich are at paying, it only emphasizes how much the rich already have. Reminds me of medieval times.

    Any campaign contributions that Obama may have received are insignificant compared to the size of Freddie Mae's and Freddie Mac's financial distress.

    I am surprised you were that gentle with McCain SezWho. McCain trying to blame the crisis on contributions to Obama is the absolute stupidest thing I have heard a politician say in a long time. And it's stupidity cannot even be diminished by a chronically slipping tongue like Bush's.

    Either the man really needs an education on economy as he himself admits, or he is desperately grasping at straws to somehow blame Obama. Sad either way. Even with the education, I think the average high schooler could estimate the math on that one.

    --Cirroc

    Posted in: Obama, McCain react cautiously to financial rescue plan

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    CavemanLawyer

    Study hard live a decent moral life , and you will be blessed with riches, and taht`s a fact!

    More ridiculous sloganeering from a rightie. Most people get rich by taking advantage of others, like by rewriting the rules when it suits them and not sharing the wealth but keeping it all for themselves. By the way, those things are not moral.

    correct, the haard working wealthy folk, who are the engine of the economy, take priority over low pay folks.

    You have it backwards. Salaried workers are the engine of the economy. Without them, we go nowhere. Some of the wealthy are the mechanics that keep that engine in tune, but not all them. I do not think it wise to spoil either, but both are spoiled rotten at this time. But salaried workers will suffer without government interference if things go wrong. It is the wealthy who must be made to feel the heat.

    --Cirroc

    Posted in: Obama, McCain react cautiously to financial rescue plan

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    CavemanLawyer

    But it announced last month it had halted work in protest at Washington’s refusal to drop it from the blacklist, as promised under the deal.

    When N.K. has the moral highground compared to my country, it is very sad day.

    Can anyone think of a reason to keep N.K. on the terror list? Decades ago they earned their place, but I cannot think of anything lately. Even the United States and Britian have committed acts of terror in more recent memory.

    I think the Bush administration just likes to make enemies. I think they enjoy war and conflict.

    --Cirroc

    Posted in: N Korea preparing to restart nuclear reactor

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