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CavemanLawyer
Are you so sure? You do not even know the planned wedding date. I suspect you are a man of great faith and poor memory. No matter how many times you get played by politicians of both sides, you just keep sticking to your side. Sure, they would not lie to you!
Few left hypocrits here. We don't care that she had sex at 17. We support her choice to keep the baby. We wish she had used protection and used it correctly, but that is about the only condemnation we have for her.
What mystifies us the lack of indignation on the right. You brought up Clinton all by yourself. You were indignant then. Why not now? One of your own failed the abstinence only education. Apparently because your VP apparent failed to instill it. Why does that not upset you?
Stop trying to project indignance on us. What we want to know is, what happened to yours?
--Cirroc
P.S. Odd that you bring up Clinton. If I remember Clinton cheated but stayed with his wife. McCain dumped his wife for a younger woman. So Bill lives by your policies more than McCain. And Obama? It would seem more than both of them! I have not heard that he has cheated, left his wife, or even has a child who had an abortion or a teen pregnancy. I guess that means you will be voting Democrat this year? Or do you always just vote party without thinking? Or are you putting these issues on hold? What?
Posted in: GOP convention opens amid talk of Palin's unmarried daughter being pregnant
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CavemanLawyer
So many posts clearing that up sailwind. I hope you read them. If not, I will make it short and sweet for you. There is a difference between teaching abstinence and teaching abstinence only. Do you see that word only? It sort of like teaching someone how to drive, but among the foot petals, teaching them about the brake only. No surprise when they stomp the accelerator when you are not looking and ram a wall, is it?
Palin's girl rammed the wall. I fault her for failing to see that.
--Cirroc
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CavemanLawyer
I take that back. A lot more people died in the Iran-Iraq war. But we should not have supported Saddam in it.
Just remember that the curtain has not closed on the new Iraq. Anything could happen from here.
--Cirroc
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CavemanLawyer
Democracy can be a pretty flimsy thing unless the people are dedicated to it. Severe sectarian problems destroy democracies with amazing efficiency.
Whatever the sacrifice? Might be smartest to sacrifice democracy and install a tough dictator. That will keep both the sectarians and the neighboring nations at bay. We tried that once didn't we? It worked pretty well. Far fewer people died and it did not cost us billions.
Glad to hear this good news from Iraq. But I have to admit I am pretty suspicious of it. So many victories and successes. Yet the fighting does not end. What is that? Irony? Forgive me for not breaking out the pom-poms. The minute Iraq is said and done there are a lot of people who I hope don't get to ride off quietly into the sunset. A hangman's noose would be more appropriate.
--Cirroc
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CavemanLawyer
I think the focus should be prevention. The trouble is that people have trouble being open and frank about sex, which is necessary to come up with prevention measures, such as making it easier to find sex partners. One way to that is to teach the social skill it requires to do so. Another way is reduce the shame factor.
I suspect that these thirty year olds only went this direction because they could not find sex partners when they were younger. Sure, it could be the rape fetish, it could even be a mix of both and even the tail wagging the dog, but I think odds are a barren sex life was what ultimately led to this.
Someone might start pointing out prostitution now. But if they do, I bet they have seen many prostitutes, not the full service kind anyway. Not appealing. Its not like in the movies.
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CavemanLawyer
I do not imagine that money is going to be a problem. I have not heard that Palin is poor, so I assume she is well off and willing to shell out.
The issue you should focus on is the fact that they are not married right now, right this very minute. Because that seriously negates the statement:
Since money is most likely not a problem, taking responsibility, to Palin, is probably just recognizing the baby, making a commitment to care for him or her, and getting married.
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CavemanLawyer
This Caveman uses condoms and has not helped the species through propogation yet. I recommend condoms to caveteens also, as well as education in proper use. Misconceptions abound among caveteens and even some cave adults.
As was said before, I am not against abstinence. Abstinence is not my reccomendation because it lends itself to desperation which leads to bad choices. The problem is the attempt to push abstinence only and leave teens ignorant of all else. Ignorant people do ignorant things, it matters not if you are modern or caveman.
--Cirroc
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CavemanLawyer
In the lower rung Republican mind, all laws, morals and ethics of today work retroactively. This makes it much easier to climb upon the back of the moral high horse. And after being knocked off time and time again, anything that makes the process easier is usually very welcome. One thing you can give credit to many Republicans, no matter how wrong they are, they are tireless! I hope the Democrats can harness them this year, and turn them back into a force for truth and justice and stop their destructive tendencies.
--Cirroc
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CavemanLawyer
What does being able to appear on the national stage have to do with being a husband and father? I think you have gone off the deep end on this one. Neither he nor Bristol have any obligation to us whatsoever. And their running with that fact says not a thing about their ability to parent or carry on as a couple.
Plenty of other reasons to be suspicious though. Plenty. Her age and the fact that they are not married right now. 2 months to November and I doubt they will be then, or ever, if they are not right now.
--Cirroc
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CavemanLawyer
I said too much. They don't need to drop her, and they will not because she still supports abstinence only despite this yet another huge failure and she is anti-choice with abortion. But still, they are hypocritical if they do not at least condemn this failure of a mother who supports those positions to instill them in her own offspring. But no real suprise she failed when baby trig is mostly in the care of others. It shows something about how much time she devotes to parenting.
The only way to get out of that is to admit that the rich and politicians are special, and get a free pass. I might be more willing to admit that than others. After all, if the father can leave his kids to others to do a job, why can't a mother? And if she would make a great VP, don't we owe her a little break?
None of it changes the fact that abstinence only does not, did not, and will not work for her daughter or for the nation. I would at least like Palin to admit that and realize that abstinence only is garbage that parents are free to feed their own kids at home but have no business whatsoever attempting to force it on the nation's youth.
--Cirroc
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CavemanLawyer
I take back what I said about Democrats in this thread. I just read through it all this time. Some of you are simply amazing in your analysis and seeing the strawmen placed on you for exactly what they are. Most of you are well spoken here. The usual suspect Republicans would not have shown so much restraint or fairness if the sides were switched and we all know it.
I still think the main issue to pound is that abstinence only education just got yet another gaping hole blown in it. And Palin still supports it for all know. Palin is no hypocrite in this, that is for sure, and I think most of you realize that. Its not her life. But a lot on the right will be hypocrites if they continue to support her. We all know any other time we would get nothing but condemnation of her from them for the failure to instill those abstinence only values in the kids. If Palin were a Dem, the Repubs would call her a failure of a mother. Most Dems here know better. Palin is not the hypocrite. The ultra-Christian right are if they don't drop her asap.
--Cirroc
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CavemanLawyer
Sins of hypocrisy are almost impossible to avoid for anyone. But Republican hypocrisy always seems to be so basic and crass, and is therefore less forgivable. What is more is that they always seem to beat a drum very very loudly before being caught in hypocrisy. The difference is one of scale.
But I think many so called Democrats are being hypocritical in this thread. But one should be suspicious of newer posters.
--Cirroc
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CavemanLawyer
To fix my last post:
Unfortunately, (or not) I think the Democrats are more worried about honesty than strategy. As they try to learn from the Republicans (or unlearn as it may be) how launch irrational, groundless, vindictive mudslings, they fall into the traps the Republicans know to avoid. It is not their strategy after all. I think Democrats are usually more concerned about fairness and justice and equality, but as the Republicans have succeeded year after year to drag them down, they resort to Republican smear, or try to. I hope Obama supporters will take my advice and limit to commenting on the proof of the failure of abstinence only education.
--Cirroc
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CavemanLawyer
Unfortunately, (or not?) I think Democrats are more worried about honesty than strategy. (><) As they try to learn from the Republicans (or unlearn as it may be) they unfortunately fall into the traps that Republicans know to avoid being used to their own irrational, vicious and groundless strategizing. I give Republicans credit for relentlessness. I prefer fairness and justice. I hope those that support Obama will take the advice of my previous post.
--Cirroc
Posted in: GOP convention opens amid talk of Palin's unmarried daughter being pregnant
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CavemanLawyer
There is only thing, only one I say, that the Democrats should bother pointing out about this. That is the fact that abstinence only education simply does not work. The pregnancy was quite preventable, and I think it safe to assume unwanted.
Say anything else, and you only serve the Republicans. All else is either hypocrisy or double-edged swords or attacking a pregnant teen. Don't be foolish with this Democrats. Please. Take this caveman's advice. The young couple should have been educated and protected and the Republicans and her own mom denied her. That is all we got. Don't pick at it any more than that.
--Cirroc
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CavemanLawyer
If they just wanted violence they could have knocked on my door. I fight dirty too, like any caveman. But I suspect they did not knock on my door because they wanted sex too. Most people don't find cavemen attractive.
They were arrested 3 weeks ago. After 3 weeks of Japanese style interrogation they probably also confessed to the JFK assassination, to being survivors and stowaways of the Apollo 13, and to being the love children of Mother Theresa.
--Cirroc
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CavemanLawyer
Notginger,
Reading the lines and even between them, I think it is safe to assume this is forcible rape. They targeted women up to 26. JT might be mixing statutory rape and forcible rape, but I doubt it.
One dangerous conclusion some may jump to is that the women troll the dating sites specifically for sex. It is more accurate to say that sex is likely in the cards, but not on the first meeting I would think would be most usual. Meeting through a dating site does not mean instant sex and it is no excuse for rape either.
--Cirroc
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CavemanLawyer
The Harry Potter move just justified piracy for a lot of people. Maybe even myself. That is one giant delay.
Thank you for reminding me! I had been meaning to rub that in! I saw it.
It was great! Many will complain of not enough action, but there are plenty of brain dead non-stop movies out there for those people. Not saying its high-brow, just that it may not be low-brow enough for some. Downey was perfect, and a surprise.
--Cirroc
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CavemanLawyer
Well spoken. As long as it is the sarcasm I suspect it is anyway! My primitive caveman mind sometimes gets it wrong.
--Cirroc
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CavemanLawyer
That makes sense.
Before that, I was thinking that since there is no disaster YET, that the GOP should go on with the business of concern for the future of the nation. What are they going to do in preparation that has not already been done? Purchase extra socks and bottled water? And if the government is not prepared now, they are not going to be soon. Michael Chertoff, if he was planning a speech, ok, maybe he should bow out and be in his office along with the current FEMA admininstrator. The rest of the GOP should have their convention, right up until a disaster is confirmed.
But the casual link idea does make sense, except, it is not actually all that casual.
--Cirroc
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