Thursday February 16, 2012

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    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu delivered his most passionate and public riposte yet to Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s questioning of "the Holocaust".

    sabiwabi:

    This great man probably did more harm to the holocaust industry than ...

    Well, yes, one would have hoped that he could actually back up his "riposte" with documents. It's not quite enough for him to get emotional about his wife's grandparents being killed in the war.

    And this is a high stakes duel between the leaders of two countries. That was the best he could do?

    This leaves a bad impression upon the majority of people, who are neutral and not taking sides at either extreme. Not to mention that Ahmadinejad’s people are in the vast majority already highly skeptical.

    Posted in: Netanyahu hits back at Iran Holocaust claims

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    After the abduction [by Noriko], a Williamson County court gave Christopher Savoie full custody of the children in his wife’s absence. The courts also issued an arrest warrant for Noriko Savoie.

    Legally, the man's actions seem justifiable. But the posts by Tetsukon and Bobbafett above do seem to probe into the man's faults. He married so soon after the divorce, and yet he demands to see his children from the previous marriage. But legally he did have that right.

    What a mess, they need some kind of objective arbitration , and counselling. It's time to think of what is best for the kids.

    Good luck to the kids, they will need it...

    Posted in: American father arrested in Japan had asked Tennessee court for help

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    kinniku:

    In his recent post Tigermoth wrote:

    The 6 million number will always be in dispute

    and

    there are few events in history of its equal.

    These statements appeared contradictory to me, but I suggested:

    go ahead and tell us specifically what events you have in mind.

    Now, if Tigermoth does not want to provide specifics, that is fine with me.

    You, on the other hand, are adding nothing to the discussion here. In your last post you once again rudely wrote:

    Seriously, do you want me to recommend a reading primer for you?

    So once again I will recommend that you (for your own good) refrain from personal attacks, distortions of others' posts, and ill-natured remarks such as these. Thank you.

    Posted in: Netanyahu hits back at Iran Holocaust claims

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    ratpack:

    I thought it was common knowledge that the real owners of Nova were the yakuza. Very easy way to clean money...

    Yes, many guys would be told to sign up, never show up for lessons, and take the refund, or not even bother with the refund, since it's Yamaguchi money anyway. NOVA was a good money laundering front.

    klein2

    he would use their subsidiary companies to buy furniture and indoor plants at incredibly inflated prices.

    Yet another scheme to launder money. Who knows just how many schemes they had in play?

    forcibly confining Nozomu Sahashi, 58, former president of English conversation school chain Nova Corporation

    Did he take money from them, or are they worried he may be talking too much? Interesting.

    Posted in: Gangster trio held for confining ex-Nova president in hotel room

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    kinniku:

    that Tigermoth was not saying the the number was not based on any historical reality. He was just suggesting that the number is less important than the suffering of that number of people.

    Tigermoth, whom I was addressing (not you) wrote:

    The 6 million number will always be in dispute, but in the context of human suffering and cold-blooded murder there are few events in history of its equal.

    and I responded by pointing out Tigermoth (by his own admission) is not in a position to make those assertions about how other genocides compare. But I asked for the specifics of his assertions -- something more than emotive remarks.

    Now you say "the number is less important than the suffering of that number of people" but that can be said for any number of other genocides as well. Therefore, the Tigermoth statement "there are few events in history of its equal" is without any basis.

    I don't know about Tigermoth, but I suggest you go first

    I'm not the one who made any claim about how many genocides in history can compare to that in WWII.

    Again the trouble with reading and phonics. Do you need a good internet link to a phonics site?You are showing your true colors. It is obvious, even if you blindly choose...

    I've grown tired of your repeated personal attacks on this forum. As I said in another thread, they only succeed in making your case less persuasive.

    Posted in: Netanyahu hits back at Iran Holocaust claims

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    kinniku:

    you have falsely suggested in other conversations that the numbers killed do not have any basis in historical fact... no matter what name you use when you post...

    No, I have not discussed that. You are confusing me with other posters.

    I made analogies with other genocides, and so if I am comparing genocides it is obvious that I consider "the holocaust" a genocide, but you falsely claimed I do not consider it a genocide, and have not even bothered to apologize, but continue with your baiting.

    I do wish you would stick to historical fact and refrain from unfair trashing of other posters who do not share your views in every respect. You only succeed in making your case much less persuasive to any careful reader.

    Posted in: Iran President Ahmadinejad proud of Holocaust denial

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    kinniku:

    Well, you certainly seemed to be making an attempt to lessen the horror

    If this is what you think, then why is it that you instead falsely claimed I don't

    seem to consider what the Nazis did to the people in the camps genocide

    That was deliberate distortion on your part. Not a tactic with much persuasive power.

    Posted in: Iran President Ahmadinejad proud of Holocaust denial

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    flammenwerfer: Thanks for providing alternate photo. I agree it's a much better photo to show the overall design of tatoo.

    aizoyurei:

    The same stupid argument can be used for anyone with beauty or whatever...."when they are older they are going to be ugly.........." WHAT AN EPIPHANY!!!

    Yes, these people are criticizing the girl because her skin will sag after many years, which has nothing to to with tatoos. I'll admit being surprised at such a ridiculous way of thinking. One could just as easily look at someone without tatoos, and say "gosh, after 40 years, when she is really wrinkled and sagging, she is going to regret not having tattoos". lol

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    kinniku:

    this is obvious because neither of you seem to consider what the Nazis did to the people in the camps genocide. Go back and study some reading and phonics...

    I'll thank you not to put words in my mouth. I have never stated that the Jews were not subjected to genocide, so I suggest YOU study some more phonics, if that's what you think it takes to read with comprehension and to digest the logic of what is set forth.

    Moderator: Readers, we understand this is an emotionally charged topic, but if any of you wish to continue posting here, then you must conduct yourselves in a civil manner.

    Posted in: Iran President Ahmadinejad proud of Holocaust denial

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    tigermoth:

    The 6 million number will always be in dispute, but in the context of human suffering and cold-blooded murder there are few events in history of its equal.

    Are you aware of the nonsensicality of your statement? First off, you admit that the number is not based on any historical reality, and yet you**go on to make the extraordinarily insensitive statement that their have been no other atrocities equal to this one. ** I would suggest that if you want to make such a statement, you first ascertain exactly how many were killed. Oh, but I forgot, it's illegal to discuss that!

    Still, you confidently insist:

    there are few events in history of its equal.

    Since you seem to know of the few equal events, why don't you list them for us? Shouldn't be so much trouble, since there are so few. You are the one claiming that there are only a few events equalling "the holocaust", so go ahead and tell us specifically what events you have in mind.

    Posted in: Netanyahu hits back at Iran Holocaust claims

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    kinniku:

    How is the CONTENT of my post mistaken in any way?

    I think if you observe the phonics and reading rules you sometimes loudly espouse, you will notice that I did not claim your posts were mistaken. I called them facile.

    Clearly Hosny lost the job due to Jewish objections, but you have constructed a facade of argumentation pretending that these are not Jewish objections. Maybe some others find your repetitious circular reasoning persuasive, but I do not.

    Posted in: Egyptian minister blames Jews for UNESCO job loss

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    It’s good for a laugh, as is so much of “Capitalism.”

    Regardless of Moore's personal philosophy, the main point is how much reality does his documentary represent? The author comes up with nothing to dispute the specific observations of Moore. Very poor writing and analysis, and obvious bias.

    Posted in: Showmanship Moore's top commodity in 'Capitalism'

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    kinniku:

    it would not be religion of the objectors but the CONTENT that would cause the person to lose their job.

    Yes, I see, just as it is not your religion but the CONTENT of your posts that makes your arguments so facile.

    The simple fact is that Jewish opposition prevented Hosny from getting the position. Why twist yourself into contortions trying to show otherwise?

    Posted in: Egyptian minister blames Jews for UNESCO job loss

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    yabits:

    If it's good enough for our military vets and elderly, it's good enough for everyone else.

    Exactly.

    sarge:

    "A bad investment" Yeah? They're probably richer than you, so I guess they probably know something you don't know about investments.

    Is this an example of your typical argumenation? If so, you are truly in the league of someone like Palin. You know nothing about my wealth, and can only be assuming that I am not as well endowed as the idiots who paid for Palin to speak. Do you assume that all who post on this forum are as financially weak as you? I'd recommend you stick to argumentation based on facts, not on personal fantasy.

    Posted in: Palin resurfaces in Hong Kong for speech on U.S.-China relations

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    sabiwabi:

    And they did not just set up a home within Palestine, they stole practically all the best land and left only a few scattered pieces of land for the "non-Jewish communities", and they control all the borders.

    This is true, but you are being too kind or circumspect. What the Israeilis are doing is nothing short of genocide, deliberately hoping to wipe out the Palestinians by various means. And when the Palestinians resist with their home-made rockets and whatnot, they are called "terrorists".

    How ironic that it is illegal to deny that the Jews were targeted for genocide, while yet the Jews are now doing the same thing to the Palestinians.

    Posted in: Iran President Ahmadinejad proud of Holocaust denial

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    “The greatest threat facing the world today is the marriage between religious fanaticism and the weapons of mass destruction,” he warned.

    Oh, no. Not WMD again.

    The most urgent challenge facing the U.N. is to prevent “the tyrants of Tehran from acquiring nuclear weapons,” he said.

    An even more urgent challenge is to take them away from Israel.

    Posted in: Netanyahu hits back at Iran Holocaust claims

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    If President Ahmadinejad had insisted that the American genocide of native Americans (Indians) never took place, how many people would be objecting so emotionally?

    It is not against the law to deny that Americans deliberately set out to slaughter and decimate the Indians. Indeed, ordinary Americans are encouraged to think that this is not the case! Yet the genocide is documented and seemingly "undeniable".

    So why the big fuss when Ahmadinejad expresses his opinion regarding some other slaughter? Why the laws prohibiting dissenting views?

    There's no consistency here. And yes, that is suspicious to many.

    Posted in: Iran President Ahmadinejad proud of Holocaust denial

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    wikikibeach:

    where investors and bankers are paying to hear her speak.

    A bad investment.

    Posted in: Palin resurfaces in Hong Kong for speech on U.S.-China relations

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    molenir:

    Although at times with Muslim extremism, its very hard to do.

    And why do you think it would be easy to do with Jewish extremism?

    grafton:

    If I then failed to get that job because many, many Muslims objected to what I had said would I be right to say I had lost the job because of a Muslim conspiracy?

    Yes, of course. You would have lost the job due to Muslim objections, just as Hosny did not get his job due to Jewish objections.

    Naturally, there would be people blabbering that the religon had nothing to do with it, only the CONTENT, but clearly that's not the case.

    Thank you for the clarifying analogy.

    Posted in: Egyptian minister blames Jews for UNESCO job loss

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    The same terrorists, who by the way, came onto American soil and flew planes into our buildings

    Under the direction of your own government.

    Why is it that you need to point fingers, when your President is exhorting you not to point them?

    Posted in: Obama to world: Don't expect America to fix it all

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