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DanManjt
woops
The desire to replace the foreign rule over your brother with your rule over your brother does not make you patriot.
It makes you a tyrant.
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DanManjt
SezWho
Many Americans may have been patriots (and traitors in the case of Torries who repatriated to Canada) after the fact. But not men like Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, Henry and women like Dolly Madison. They identified the emerging American identity, and, critically, understood the necessity of articulating that identity and the justness of their cause. That is why we have the Declaration, which begins:
when in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
To compare the American revolutionaries with Iraqi power-brokers is misleading to a point beyond meaninglessness.
Its dangerous.
It supposes a commonality between our two nation's which simply does not exist. And this false presumption of the Iraqi yearning to be free in the way that we Americans concieve of freedom has and will only continue to lead to failed policies.
The rankling against a foreign occupier does not make one a patriot. The desire to replace the foreign rule over your brother with your rule does not make you patriot.
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DanManjt
woops
And Bush removed him. And put nothing in his place.
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DanManjt
Hello Betzee.
Sorry for the delay. In response to your post::
I do not view religion as an impediment to modernity. I think Jefferson got it right when he famously wrote on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association:
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man & his god, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and state
The question is how best to maintain the wall of separation between church and state, to, yes, preserve individual Liberty and a free republic. Robespierre was a monster like Torquemada; Communist tyranny as odious to democratic sentiments as the Inquisition. I believe we Americans have largely found a wholesome and productive balance between the secularism of the state and the religiosity of the society. We have taken religion out of the state, but not gone down the fools road of taking religion out of politics.
All this directly relates to our discussion of Iraq (the matter at hand): the problem is not only when the degree of ethno-religious division threatens the governability of land. Most nations struggle with such diversity. The problem is further compounded by the inability to ameliorate those divisions through power sharing in and through politics ( i.e a representative republic). In a country lacking power sharing institutions, power comes through the barrel of a gun.
And that is why a fellow like Saddam Hussein ran the place. His reign of terror was a natural, organic outgrowth of Iraq.
And Bush him. And put nothing in his place.
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DanManjt
Cleo
For a society to value self-respect and nurture self-esteem for all, it must have citizens and not subjects, comrades, or plebs. With natural law, citizens can only exist as part of civil society. And civil society is only possible with patriotism.
Otherwise, you are left with simply nationalism.
Therefore, a citizenry truly interested in promoting self-respect and nurture self-esteem in its children, that is preserving their Liberty, must teach civics and patriotism in schools.
They will get it no other way otherwise.
And then you are left with a bastard patriotism along the Russian standard.
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DanManjt
Sez Who
al-Sadr is not a patriot in any meaningfull way that Jefferson was a leading patriot. This is so in for two simple reasons:
And they certainly do not see their rivals, their enemies, and those of different ethic and/or religious groups as equal members of a polity or civil society (in the technical use of the term.)
No, the Russian patriotism demand obediance, servitude and demagogery.
BTW You can simply call me DanMan.
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DanManjt
woops
Filure is not a result of their flawed strategy; rather it results from not being allowed to implement their fine plan.
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DanManjt
"quit playing around with this scumbag and his followers and take them out."
Here we have the problem with the right in a nutshell. Problem? Use force. When force doesn't work, use more force. If more force doesn't work, blame it on those who haven't allowed the US turn the place to glasss. Failure is a results of their flawed strategy. It results from not being allowed to implement their fine plan.
Because the Liberals, the French and Santa Claus.
In short, the right are like the kindergarder trying to force a square peg into a round hole. And having a tantrum when they fail.
In truth, "quit playing around with this scumbag and his followers and take them out.," is a bad move because its predicated on a seriously flawed assumption.
The assumption that America has a preponderance of power to enforce her will regardless of any other national or subnational group.
We do not. There are real limits on American power, limits that Bush has crashed straight into in his silly attempt to force Iraq to comply with his will.
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DanManjt
"People hate change."
Well, that all depends on the kind and quality of change, now don't it?
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DanManjt
Sez Who
I don't find particularly useful your attempt to connect in the manner that you have Iraq's civil war with the America experience.
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DanManjt
Nessie
Shhhhhhh! You'll just embolden the terrorists.
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DanManjt
"The Surge is working."
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DanManjt
Wow, that's kinda cool how it it doesn't reload.
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DanManjt
Unlike the old one, it seems to me the new layout reflects that this site is Japan Today, and not America today.
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