Monday May 28, 2012

Heda_Madness's past comments

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    Heda_Madness

    They will be from more harmful Isotopes but they are also well within internationally perceived safety limits- not just Japanese and 0.2 is negligible. As I mentioned before, a number of areas of the UK are still affected by Chernobyl. Those of us who were alive in 1986 ate food that was contaminated and drank water. Many of us would have eaten lamb from the Lake District that would have been contaminated from the Windscale fire of the 50's where the British government carried out no checks on the surrounding farmland.

    I totally understand why you wish to protect your two year old and if I had children I would also be worried about their health and safety however I'm also not one of those that believes that any radiation will kill you. Radiation is bad, but there are tens of millions of people alive who were more affected by radiation from Chernobyl than we are in Tokyo etc who can prove that isn't the case.

    And thanks for the compliment but I've only done a bit. As have many, many other people. And if we all do a bit then hopefully we can help those who most need it.

    Posted in: City in Fukushima declares August Decontamination Month

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    Heda_Madness

    Oh and 0.2 isn't high. It's lower than anywhere in the UK and substantially lower than you would find in the Lake District, north Wales and the highlands of Scotland. Not to mention lower than Cornwall and Edunburgh.

    I think Rome had something like 2.0 from background radiation on any normal day.

    Posted in: City in Fukushima declares August Decontamination Month

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    Heda_Madness

    But that's the thing about a spike, it can totally depend on atmospheric conditions. We had three similar results over three separate weekends and it suggests that the level is constant. a one off result, especially after rain and with the wind blowing in the right direction can't mean anything on it's own. Go back to the same ares again and if the data is constant it's a concern.

    I've gone on record as saying this isn't as bad as Chernobyl and perhaps I need to clarify my stance. Chernobyl was a massive explosion which scattered radioactive particles high into the atmosphere which led to large contamination over Western Europe - mostly because it rained. I have no doubt that Namie, parts of itate and a number of other areas will have high levels of radiation but they are few and far between. There are many areas that are safe and comments like the first two about how this story will affect the dribking water without having any idea where that drinking water comes from doesnt help anyone.

    It's not good for the people of Fukushima. But it's not anywhere as scary as some would have you believe for the rest of us.

    Posted in: City in Fukushima declares August Decontamination Month

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    Heda_Madness

    Incidentally, I gave you a 'good' rating because it's good to discuss this properly.

    Posted in: City in Fukushima declares August Decontamination Month

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    Heda_Madness

    I can appreciate that, we drove through Itate and it was something over 2 where we were and I'm not surprised to hear there are other hospots where it's much higher. Minami Soma is a large city from the amalgamation of a number of towns and I'm sure that there are other parts which are much higher than the results we got which were VERY low. However they are clearly not off the board and claims like that make people like me respond. Inaccurate and unsubstiated by any real data. This is bad for the people near the area but despite what the scaremongers claim it's NOT as bad for most of us and I have zero concerns in returning to Minami Soma in the future.

    Posted in: City in Fukushima declares August Decontamination Month

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    Heda_Madness

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    more absolute rubbish.The contamination is off the charts in these places.

    If that's the case how do you justify the low readings we had on our Geiger counters on the two occasions i've been up there. Two different Geiger counters. Similar results. A friend has also been up and his Geiger counter showed the same results.

    There must be an explanation as to why the three Geiger counters on three separate occasions gave results that suggest that the areas of Minami Soma that we went to were perfectly safe and certainly doesn't suggest that the results are off the charts up there. Far from it.

    Posted in: City in Fukushima declares August Decontamination Month

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    Heda_Madness

    Of course the first question one should ask is where does Minami Soma's water come from? Does it come from Lakes and Rivers in the mountains (as one would expect) or does it come from the ground water in the area. This is actually one of the (many) reasons why nuclear reactors in the UK are located next to the coast. Namely if it all goes t!ts up the impact on the drinking water will be substantially reduced than if they were located inland.

    Incidentally, I've been to Minami Soma a couple of times and we had a Geiger Counter on both occasions which had readings that were substantially lower than in Tokyo. Still, I can understand why people have moved from there and are reticent about going back.

    Posted in: City in Fukushima declares August Decontamination Month

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    Heda_Madness

    Interesting. He starts off by saying he's against all forms of nuclear power. He then says that he found one hot spot in Tokyo that had higher doses of radiation than in the exclusion zone for Chernobyl but he fails to give any detailed data on the amount in Tokyo or the amount in Chernobyl where he is comparing the data. I could pretty much guarantee that I could go to Minami Soma with the same equipment and then go to a hill farm in Wales or the Lake District or wherever the 400 farms that still can't be farmed in the UK as a result of Chernobyl and 'prove' that the radiation levels are lower on the edge of the exclusion zone than in the UK.

    He clearly is a smart man but he also clearly has an agenda.

    Posted in: 45% of children tested near Fukushima plant have radioactive elements in thyroid glands

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    Heda_Madness

    I am aware that the danger to children is real and all those in the affected area should be tested regularly for the rest of their lives and Tepco should pay for it.

    The local area of Fukushima may be as badly affected as Chernobyl but Chernobyl had a massive impact on Western Europe. This is more localised and the effects will be felt on a much smaller scale.

    None of which helps the people of Fukushima.

    Posted in: 45% of children tested near Fukushima plant have radioactive elements in thyroid glands

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    Heda_Madness

    Incidentally, I'm pretty sure I never said " there are no meltdowns, it is all contained inside the containment vessel" But I did say that this wasn't anywhere near as severe as Chernobyl.

    Posted in: 45% of children tested near Fukushima plant have radioactive elements in thyroid glands

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    Heda_Madness

    You must have a special skill to read white space and create sentences.

    I said that the radiation levels in Kawasaki are not at Chernobyl levels. I said nothing about the children of Fukushima.

    Posted in: 45% of children tested near Fukushima plant have radioactive elements in thyroid glands

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    Heda_Madness

    As Chris Busby says, there is Chernobyl like levels in Kawasaki too

    No there aren't.

    Posted in: 45% of children tested near Fukushima plant have radioactive elements in thyroid glands

  • -1

    Heda_Madness

    It's a relatively localised issue because it's only affecting Japan not the international community (that you claimed in your first post). This isn't like Chernobyl which affected most of Western Europe and anyone with a basic understanding of science would tell you that. The tsunami affected Japan. the nuclear incident affected Japan. And the international media focussed on the nuclear side of things because it's scarier therefore increases ratings/sales.

    Posted in: Maher says 'nobody' in Japan gov't was in charge early in nuclear crisis

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    Heda_Madness

    20,000 died/are missing in the tsunami/earthquake. A far greater number than will die as a result of the nuear incident. The nuclear incident is, relatively speaking, a localised incident.

    You may think I've been constantly wrong whereas I would feel you show a distinct lack of knowledge on the subject.

    Or to put it another way:

    Known fatalities outside of Japan from the nuclear incident = none Known fatalities outside of Japan from the tsunami = one.

    Posted in: Maher says 'nobody' in Japan gov't was in charge early in nuclear crisis

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    Heda_Madness

    But that's not what you said.

    You said I posted disinformation. Yet by the time that the 7th fleet was ordered to go there, there were already 50,000 troops on the ground with a further 50,000 on the way. You said Obama reacted before the Japanese. Someone else claimed the Americans responded 'days quicker' than the Japanese.

    Which is not true. The Japanese SDF and the Japanese government reacted as quickly as possible to this side of the disaster.

    All of which is true and none of it detracts from the response of the Americans or other international countries who helped.

    Posted in: Maher says 'nobody' in Japan gov't was in charge early in nuclear crisis

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    Heda_Madness

    Global Watcher, follow this link dated March 12.

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2011/03/12/Relief-aid-rushing-to-Japan-US-to-help/UPI-36071299949205/#ixzz1VSCt5fRT**

    THere were already 50,000 troops there on March 12 with an order for up to 50,000 more.

    Posted in: Maher says 'nobody' in Japan gov't was in charge early in nuclear crisis

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    Heda_Madness

    What was the mistake?

    So what you're saying is that Obama offered troops before the GOJ had done anything. Care to back it up with a link?

    Posted in: Maher says 'nobody' in Japan gov't was in charge early in nuclear crisis

  • -1

    Heda_Madness

    As I said earlier, I'm not talking about the nuclear response.

    But there's no-one who is going to tell me that the response to the initial crisis was incorrect. 50,000 troops followed by 100,000 troops for a disaster that was on an unprecedented scale. And it's delusional to suggest otherwise.

    Posted in: Maher says 'nobody' in Japan gov't was in charge early in nuclear crisis

  • 2

    Heda_Madness

    How do I get a negative rating for posting a fact, which has been verified with a news report of the time?

    **TOKYO, March 12 (UPI) -- Japanese Prime Minister Naoto Kan says he has ordered additional rescue forces sent into areas impacted by Friday's earthquake and resulting tsunami.

    Kan said he asked Defense Minister Toshimi Kitazawa to increase the number of Self-Defense Forces in the affected areas by up to 50,000, Kyodo News reported Saturday. About 50,000 SDF personnel are already in the area.

    Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2011/03/12/Relief-aid-rushing-to-Japan-US-to-help/UPI-36071299949205/#ixzz1VSCt5fRT**

    Posted in: Maher says 'nobody' in Japan gov't was in charge early in nuclear crisis

  • -1

    Heda_Madness

    *, with information regarding this disaster days before the GOJ even decided to acknowlege it*

    That is woefully incorrect. See my point above. There were 50,000 SDF mobilized, followed by 100,000.

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2011/03/12/Relief-aid-rushing-to-Japan-US-to-help/UPI-36071299949205/

    Posted in: Maher says 'nobody' in Japan gov't was in charge early in nuclear crisis

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