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KabukiloverJul. 23, 2014 - 08:48AM JST
The airlines should have suspended flights to Israel long ago.
Posted in: U.S., European airlines scrap Israel flights over missile fears
KabukiloverJul. 22, 2014 - 12:32PM JST
How about the US telling Netanyahu that enough is enough.
Posted in: U.S. urges global push for Israeli, Hamas cease-fire
KabukiloverJul. 22, 2014 - 10:18AM JST
This was a good demonstration. It was inclusive, peaceful and to he point. What Israel is doing in Gaza is immoral by any standard. Israel has been committing mass murder with impunity as the US and its allies said nothing or next to nothing in protest. Hitler supposedly said, "Who cared about the Armenians?," in reference to the Turkish Armenian genocide that the Turkish government still denies, when he started the Holocaust. Perhaps some future genocidal dictator will say, "Who cared about the Palestinians?"
Demonstrations like this tell the world that there are people who care about the Palestinians, Jews as well as gentiles. In so doing, they are giving the word to all present and future tyrants that there will always be people who care about what they do.
Thank you for your thoughts and info Paul Arenson. Netanyahu and his blood-thisty swinish crew do not in fact work on behalf of the Jews and many Israeli voices are protesting the mass murder in Gaza.
Posted in: Silent protest held in Tokyo against Gaza bloodshed
KabukiloverJul. 21, 2014 - 09:53PM JST
So is the objective of the minus (-) crowd to find out the truth of what caused this disaster or to get at Putin? As a fairly frequent flier to Europe I am more interested in former. The minus people I've so far are long on vituperation and very short on facts. In fact minus (-) on facts. There have been no serious challenges to anything I've said.
Posted in: Putin promises to cooperate as blame for MH17 crash piles on Russia
KabukiloverJul. 21, 2014 - 07:56PM JST
If the evidence is overwhelming please share it with us. Overwhelm us with details and citations.
KabukiloverJul. 21, 2014 - 06:19PM JST
Hysteria is full mindless bloom today. Accusations based on no real evidence. That is how lynch mob start and how often innocent people get turned into strange fruit. That is how Israel's rape of Gaza got started.
All right, boys and girls, let us deconstruct what has been said and done.
Who shot down the plane, if indeed it was shot down? We do not as yet know. There is a tape purportedly of rebels talking about shooting down the plane. it needs to be authenticated before it becomes admissible evidence.
Assuming it was shot down with missile launcher, how do we it was given to Ukrainian rebels by the Russians? We have zero evidence to go on at the moment. That's right, zero. We do not yet know where the weapon is and where it came from.
Supposing the plane was shot down by rebels, did they intend to shoot down a airliner? That is was there malice aforethought on the part of the rebels (and Russians if they were involved)? In plain language did they agree to out a passenger jet and did they tell Putin and did Putin say it was great idea? Or was this a miscalculation? You need to consider these questions in assessing guilt.
As for what happened at crash site if has been reported that some cooperation was established between the rebels and Kiev in collecting the bodies and putting them in cold storage. Link: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-rebels-agree-remove-crash-070251471.html;ylt=A0SO8wTVxctTVjQAxRXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzOWRqMDI1BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDIyMF8x
In cases like this, outrage is often generated more by who did it and not what was done. In 1983 the Soviets shot down a Korean airliner, not knowing what it was. The reaction generated by Reagan and the Western media was unsparing. This was not the case in 1984 when the Americans shot an Iranian airliner that was traveling on its regular route in broad daylight. Reagan dismissed this as an understandable error.
KabukiloverJul. 21, 2014 - 04:08PM JST
Mass murder. Shame on Israel.
Posted in: U.N. calls for immediate truce as Gaza death toll tops 500
KabukiloverJul. 21, 2014 - 04:06AM JST
The same reporter who wrote the above article also wrote the black box article I linked above. An expanded version appears on Yahoo News.. Both versions say the rebels will be giving the black boxes to the International Civil Aviation Organization. http://news.yahoo.com/rebels-mh17-black-boxes-aviation-group-122858886--finance.htm They do not say how. Maybe the Moscow route is the safest all told.
Posted in: Rebels have taken away all plane crash bodies
KabukiloverJul. 21, 2014 - 01:54AM JST
The black boxes have been and may clear up things. ˙Here is the link fromYahoo News http://news.yahoo.com/rebels-mh17-black-boxes-aviation-group-122858886--finance.html
The article appeared some 3 hours ago under the title of "Rebels to give MH17 black boxes to aviation group" and is written by YURAS KARMANAU, who has another article on this topic in JT. He writes: "Rebels have recovered the black boxes from downed Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 and will hand them over to the International Civil Aviation Organization, a rebel leader said Sunday."
Other reports say the black boxes are going to Moscow. I do not know, being an ordinary newspaper reader, what is true. I presume that if the black boxes are headed for Moscow the Russians will be under great pressure to given them to the ICAO.
Posted in: Int'l probe demanded after Malaysian airliner shot down over Ukraine
KabukiloverJul. 21, 2014 - 01:33AM JST
From the first article I quoted above: "Russian President Vladimir Putin and German Chancellor Angela Merkel agreed Saturday in a phone call that an independent commission led by the International Civil Aviation Organization should be granted swift access to the crash site." This does not sound like demonized Putin we have been getting here and from much of the western press.
The second link seems broken at the moment. Recent reports indicate the black boxes are bound for Moscow.
KabukiloverJul. 21, 2014 - 01:11AM JST
Thanks. The sources quoted and linked above come from American establishment news agencies. The last one from TPM is AP. Political hysteria has its own protocol. It only sees what it wants to. I wonder if those articles I linked will disappear as they do not conform to the US part line. I'm going to use that stuff about Hitler.
KabukiloverJul. 20, 2014 - 11:23PM JST
Finally something intelligent from Abe. "Abe also cautioned that it would not be prudent to antagonize Russia and said it is better to maintain a dialogue with Russian President Vladimir Putin." And: "Referring to Ukraine, the prime minister said the conflict should be settled through dialogue and under international law, rather than war, NTV reported." Agree with above poster: SDF has considerable experience in finding bodies and could be useful.
Posted in: Abe says Japan willing to help in Malaysia jet crash probe
KabukiloverJul. 20, 2014 - 10:50PM JST
Everyone ought to read this article on Yahoo News before it goes down the memory hole: "Ukraine, rebels agree to remove crash site bodies." Link: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-rebels-agree-remove-crash-070251471.html;_ylt=A0SO8wTVxctTVjQAx_RXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzOWRqMDI1BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDIyMF8x
One key quote: "The Ukraine government and the pro-Russia separatists who control the site of the Malaysian plane crash have reached a preliminary agreement to remove the bodies of the victims from the site, a senior Ukrainian official said."
And another: "Ukraine's emergency officials said Sunday that 196 bodies have been recovered in an operation involving nearly 300 volunteers and rebels."
This rare act of cooperation between enemies came fortunately before the decomposing bodies because a major health hazard. One can only hope this will lead to a permanent cease fire that the Russians, the French and the Germans have been pleading for.
You should also read this from TPM: "Ukraine Rebels Find Black Boxes, Hand Them Over To Aviation Group."
KabukiloverJul. 20, 2014 - 10:05PM JST
Right, the tunnels were useful yesterday when the Israelis invaded. The invaders took two casualties. Had there been no invasion the two Israelis would still be alive, along with over 300 Palestinians.
Posted in: Israeli military destroy Gaza tunnels
KabukiloverJul. 20, 2014 - 06:24PM JST
And find it idiotic that people are jumping to conclusion with so scant evidence.
Posted in: Ukraine, rebels argue over Malaysia Airlines wreckage site
KabukiloverJul. 20, 2014 - 02:43PM JST
“Everything’s gone, all our memories. Our home has become property of the Islamic State.” Turned around this could be the lament of a Palestinian who has lost his land to illegal Jewish settlements in the West Bank, a Moslem in Burma who has been attacked by vegetarian Buddhists, a Catholic or Protestant whose home was gutted by the Orangemen or the IRA during the Troubles, or countless Moslems and Jews who was expelled from Catholic Spain in 1492. The mixture of religion and politics sucks. It has always sucked and it always will suck.
The infuriating thing is that for as long as anyone can recall the Sunnis, Shiites, the Christians and various minority religions all got along until recently. After the US destroyed Iraq all hell broken loose. My sympathies to the Christians and any Jews left in Iraq. For the Sunni and Shiites who are busy killing each other, I can only offer prayers for the dead.
Posted in: Execution or exodus, Iraqi Christians face grim choice
KabukiloverJul. 20, 2014 - 02:23PM JST
Super Lib, that has yet to be verified. It might be a fraud, like the fake Rebel broadside that ordered all the Jews in the rebel held territories to register. Has anyone seen this alleged tape on You Tube lately? You would think it would be all over the place.
I believe there is one thing we can be 99% sure of. No one, whoever it was, willfully wanted to shoot down a passenger jet (if in fact to was shoot down a passenger jetliner. If it turns out that the ukrainian military did it will be called a tragic error and if the rebels indeed did shoot it down then it will be called a willful act of terrorism.
KabukiloverJul. 20, 2014 - 02:01PM JST
The tunnels were of little use militarily (if at all) and was not the hideous progrom that Israel launched on Gaza. Most of the dead were civilians, including a swath of children. As Israel conducted its rape of Gaza there were barely a peep from the leaders of the supposedly advanced countries. France's so-called Socialist government banned pro-Palestinian rallies in Paris. Obama, which going after Russia on dubious grounds, has make a limp response to this crime against humanity: in effect do it but not too much.
On her deathbed the singer Édith Piaf said, "Every damn fool thing you do in this life, you pay for." The rape of Gaza is just one of the damn fool things that Israel has done against the Palestinian people and some day Israel, namely its people and not its leader, will suffer for this.
In a Ha'aretz interview a former Israeli foreign minister said that there are worse things than Hamas waiting around the corner, namely ISIS.
If ever a place needed a squadron of Martin Luther Kings and Nelson Mandelas it is this place.
KabukiloverJul. 20, 2014 - 01:32PM JST
This report is apparently dated as the Ukrainian government and the rebels seem to be talking about the deteriorating condition of the crash site. So reports USA Today: "Ukraine, rebels agree on security zone at crash site." The link: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/07/19/malaysian-airlines-mh17-crash/12877241/
The problem is that as painful as this all is, the bodies are starting to decompose in the mid-summer heat. People have to work in the sunflower fields and other places in the crash site area.
Another news item from Reuters: "Rebel leader [Aleksander Borodai, prime minister of the breakaway Donetsk People's Republic] asks Russia for help with deteriorating Ukraine crash site." The article states, " A rebel leader appealed to Russia on Saturday for help with worsening conditions at the crash site of a Malaysian airliner, accusing the Ukrainian government of preventing experts from arriving and allowing bodies to rot." Bordai notes that a grandmother complained that a dead body fell on her bed. It is still there. She wants the dead body removed. There is no designated people to remove it. It is still there. Link: http://news.yahoo.com/rebel-leader-says-not-touched-crash-concerned-bodies-111411627.html
What happened and is happening remains sketchy. Don't trust official pronouncements and accusations and counter accusations. If the grandmother story is true, I hope she can get her bed back quickly.
KabukiloverJul. 20, 2014 - 10:22AM JST
I would never fly Malaysian Airlines for political and personal reasons. Their pro Islamic government is not simply against Israel but also tinged with anti Semitism. That in itself poses a potential problem for me. After these two disasters I would not fly this airline even it I were given a first class ticket for a lifetime.
Enough has been said about the first disaster. In this case it is crazy that this company was sending planes over a war zone. As various sides fight over who is to blame for this horror and Obama is ghoulishly using the dead as an excuse to hurt Russia the absolute fact is that this airliner should not have been flying over East Ukraine in the first place. The company did this to save on fuel. The most stupid parsimony imaginable.
As a frequent flyer to Europe, this horror is of considerable importance to me. I checked the routing of my usual airline and they had rerouted a long time ago.
Posted in: Travel agencies in many countries have already reported customers canceling reservations on Malaysian Airlines flights since one of the carrier's planes was shot down over Ukraine. In view of the second major disaster to befall the airline this year, would you still be willing to fly with them?
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