Monday May 28, 2012

KinuyeOshiro's past comments

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    KinuyeOshiro

    First postings that I have read in this subject that many of the writers offer good remarks about Okinawa. Mr. Roos is indeed condescending. He visited Okinawa recently, viewed the Futenma Air Station and looked at all of the bases here and remarked that he could see the huge imprint of the US Military, then he went to Mabuni and remarked on how the many granite stones bearing names of war dead from WWII,(many from my own family that died before I was born of either starvation or by Japanese military forcing them out of caves into US Machine Gun Fire). Mr Roos was contrite & humble in his remarks and I thought maybe he does feel some remorse for Okinawans bearing the burden of Japanese Aggression; then he went to the Mainland and demanded that Japan live up to the 2006 agreement. The indians of a hundred years ago, in the USA said that the Govt speaks with a forked tongue, Civil Rights leaders and marchers had to bear the hostilities and aggression of those that wanted to keep them slaves or lesser Americans, while they marched for freedom. President Obama took his oath on a bible used by President Lincoln and reminded the world that all men(and women) are created equal, and his motto is Yes We Can... Well Mr. President if that is the true belief of the US Govt, then removing the Futenma Air Station from Okinawa altogether, and return it to the USA where it belongs, close the base, forget about destroying our Coral Reef and let the Okinawan People, me included that we are indeed created equal, then we will believe what the US Stands for, but until then Okinawans must stand tall and say in a loud voice "Yes We Can" then keep demonstrating and do what the rest of the people of the world have done. The only time in our history that I am aware of that the people of Okinawa stood as one and forced the US Military to re-think their position was during the Koza Riots. While the Peaceful side of me says that I hope this never happens again, the fed up side of me says, maybe it is time to resort to what the US seems to respond to the most. Iran thumbs their nose at the USA and the USA tippy toes through the tulips, Jong Kim Il threatens and the US Jumps, so why is it that the USA tries to keep a strangle hold on the Futenma Air Station as pointed out from a reader, that even moving 8000 marines to guam will still leave over 40,000 Military Personnel on tiny Okinawa and still maintain over 35 bases. Where is the logic here? Why are there not more Americans asking the same questions? Rhetorical I know as most people who write in these forums could care less about Okinawa and what we want, which is to live like everyone else in the world does. Peace and quiet and not be held hostage by the US Military in Occupation status since the end of WWII. While I will acknowledge that the US has done a lot for Okinawa over the past 60 years; we are not demanding that all bases be closed, we are not asking for a bone to be tossed our way because we are not dogs, we are People. We just want the Futenma MCAS closed and not moved to Henoko. What is wrong with that? The US will still maintain a large force in Asia, which in reality,should be on the mainland of Japan & not on Okinawa. But the idea that the Futenma Air Station is a key base for maintaining the peace in Asia as Mr Roos has pointed out, is the Govt again speaking with a forked tongue as he forgets one thing. The Futenma Air Station is a training facility only and training can be done anywhere else even in the USA. Okinawan born, and Okinawan Proud.

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    KinuyeOshiro

    For those that argue my points of view about US Government Policy relating to Okinawan Issues, this is exactly my point. US Men and Women can fight for their country but their country does not stand behind them when they need to. This issue should be a non-issue, but for every US Military man who wants to marry then dies for his country is then tossed aside like the expendable number that he is; this is just not right. The US Government cares about their political agendas, not the men and women who do the dirty work for them and need to be treated better. I wonder if his bride was a mainland Japanese lady, would they have treated her this way. I think not.

    Posted in: Marine's widow, baby return to Japan but visa problem with U.S. unresolved

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    KinuyeOshiro

    NuckinFutz at 01:49 PM JST - 3rd January

    The first paragraph of the story holds the solution. Whoever was there FIRST gets to stay, and those who decided of their own free will to build Ginowan around the base need to MOVE!

    Absolutely True statement. Okinawans were there first. The US Military moved them all to barbed wire camps just as they did in America, and then took their land to build Futenma Air Station. There was no military base there as Japan Today stated. It was all farming/villages/Tombs. The closest Japanese Base was the Awase Air Field that some old military guys called Kubasaki Field, but there was not US Military there. So it should be returned to Okinawans. Changing my response to Family Values? ask Americans of Japanese Decent how they were treated and how many got their land back then talk to me about family values and while you are at it, I believe my history is correct in that Settlers as well as military murdered Indians for their land, so much for thanksgiving. So US Military MOVE! and NuckinFutz needs to learn about Okinawan History, your prejudice is really apparent, "Those who decided of their own free will to build Ginowan around the base need to MOVE! your racist views are very obvious.

    Posted in: Patience wearing thin in Ginowan over Futenma base issue

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    KinuyeOshiro

    For accurate information about Okinawa and the Futenma Air Station look at our 4 part series on you tube link attached. It is accurate and truthful and researched from first hand knowledge.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXoTsXdefOg

    for the remark about who would build next to the fence at Futenma Air Station or any other location, you need remember just one simple answer for those who need a simple response. Where else would Okinawans that lived next to the fence and inside the fence prior to WWII rebuild following the war? If your family lived in Tornedo Alley, USA and the area was devestated by a tornedo, your family would most likely return and rebuild there, but if they found the military had moved in and taken your land, as the US Military did in Ginowan Oyama Futenma and other villages, and your city was very small, like Okinawa, you would not only be upset that the Military was there setting up a new base on your land, you might build as close to where your family was for centuries, yet Americans and other foreigners never have been able to grasp the importance of Family. You talk about religion and family being important but yet feel Okinawans are somehow different, yet our family values are probably a lot more meaningful to us than to others.

    Posted in: Patience wearing thin in Ginowan over Futenma base issue

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    KinuyeOshiro

    GINOWAN — According to Japan Today....When the US took over a Japanese airfield here in the closing days of World War II, it was surrounded by sugarcane fields and the smoldering battlegrounds of Okinawa. It is now the focus of a deepening dispute that is testing Japan’s security alliance with the United States and dividing its new government in Tokyo.

    To Japantoday, Please get your facts straight. There NEVER WAS A MILITARY BASE WHERE THE FUTENMA AIRSTATION IS LOCATED.!! There was an airfield at Awase, at Makiminato, Kadena, Bolo Point, Yontan, Ie Jima but never, never, never at Futenma, so when you point out this misinformation, it gives all the pseudo military want to bees a chance to tell Okinawans get used to the US Being here on Okinawa. I want you to get out and get out NOW. You do not belong in Ginowan City and you do not belong at Henoko(period) for the idiotic remarks about dogs barking comparing that to the Jets and helicopters as typhoon tom does has been spending too much time drinking sake and needs to wake up and smell his coffee is burning. For remarks as to why would anyone build next to what ever still has no clue, come to Okinawa and ask yourself one question. What country in the entire world that was devistated or touched by WWII has not re-built and attempted to re-adjust to a normal life, yet the number of your readers who continually write their idiotic remarks telling us to get used to the noise, that Japan lost the war or that the military can do as they please needs to get their head out of the sand and look around the world. This is not 1950 it is 2010. Every country in the world has had a chance to rebuild even in any city USA. Populations grow, cities grow yet on Okinawa, all of the mental giants that write their brilliant words here fail to realize that Okinawa does not have the space that even little New Jersey has, yet we are expected to keep taking the same line of baloney that keeps being served on this site. Take you base and go home we do not want you on Okinawa. We do not mind a few bases but we would like to have the chance to rebuild our little prefecture just as all you people have been able to do, yet you still write your idiotic nonsense here as though you have the brilliant knowledge to know what is best for Okinawa and for world peace. If I sound angry, I am, I want the USA out of Ginowan City and out of Henoko, I want these bases moved next door to where you mental giants live and put up with the base problems. You do not have a clue to what Okinawans want. Look back at history to the Koza Riots, this day may come again and Okinawans may be pushed to the brink and let you revisit history. It was not pleasant but I am sure the mighty US Military will be pleased to hurt and kill Okinawans as we are noting but obstacles in your way. As long as there are bars here you are happy. Go Home. leave us alone!!!

    Posted in: Patience wearing thin in Ginowan over Futenma base issue

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    KinuyeOshiro

    societymike you mention I was incorrect and to restudy and I believe I misunderstood your position as I understood you incorrectly and I apologize, sumimasen deshita. I was referrering to total income of US Military into Okinawa Prefecture as I was reading a US Report, and now realize you were speaking to income from Japan. I am not sure I totally agree with you, but you are mostly correct in my thinking. I believe the current Governor is mostly in favor of this base and only publicly speaks out against it but does not push the issue too far, but I am not sure that the money coming from Japan is the reason many Politicians are in favor of US Bases. I believe Politicians have their own agendas that are self serving and for Japan itself, it makes a better position for them to keep the Military Bases on Okinawa rather than on any of the 4 home islands. The only reason the Government brings up the issue is because people on Okinawa try to make as much noise as they can forcing the government to listen. You are correct in that Okinawans make a lot of noise because this is our land and since Commodore Perry first set foot on Okinawa, he wanted to make it US Territory and thankfully the president of the day told him No, that Okinawa was too far away to render any immideate help in order to maintain it. Present day situation makes it easy for the US Military to stay, even though logical common sense says to move many of the bases but as most Military know (prior military included) that when Okinawa was taken, it was at a large cost of lives, We are grateful that the US Military defeated the Japanese who treated all Okinawans as beneath them butmore than 125,000 Okinawans were also killed, including many in my family who fled to the hills when the initial invasion began and they died in the bombing and artillery or died of starvation while hiding. We have many reason to want many of the bases gone, Not all necessarily, but many. We have several parts of our film Why Okinawa?, called the Dilemma of Futenma on You Tube, with a conclusion coming in the next few days, 5 parts total and one reaction from an American said that he personally would never build near an active military base, yet everywhere you go, as you well know, there are active military bases. You cannot even go into the Northern Area, of the Northern Training Grounds and be afraid of the noise, yet there is no where to go on Okinawa, without the ever presence of military bases. Okinawan People enjoy americans who actively get involved but the problems created, especially with Futenma Air Station is a simple solution, yet the US does not want to budge an inch. Part of our film, we went to Miramar MCAS and the room there was mind jarring to see so much empty space, and it seems a logical solution to move this Futenma to Miramar as it is a training facility only; yet politicians, make demands that are not logical; there has to be more involved than money coming to Okinawa Prefecture from Japan for this one base. The V-Shape runways envisioned for Henoko Peninsula have been designed, we have been told, to be used jointly by Military and Japanese Business Interests who do not want to come into Naha, but that want to develope the Northern End of Okinawa which would also create a major change for the Okinawan People. Japan looks at Okinawa as their very own Hawaii.

    Posted in: U.S. ambassador urges Japan to honor base agreement

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    KinuyeOshiro

    For the real issue as this story is about the US wanting Japan to honor the Agreement of 2006; what about Judge Patel, San Francisco Federal District Court who ruled in January 2008, (2 years after the bogus governments of Japan and President Bush made their self serving agreement), Judge patel ruled that the US Military was in violation of the National Preservation Act for failing to evaluate the potential effects on the Dugong & ordered the US Defense Dept. to do so. Case citation Okinawa Dugong v. Gates, No. 03-4350. I would like to know when the US Military is going to do what Judge Patel ordered or are they going to go against the Federal Courts just because they think they are above the law and can, then tell Japan to honor this phony agreement. Please give me, or better yet, give Okinawa a break, start practicing what you preach...

    Posted in: U.S. ambassador urges Japan to honor base agreement

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    KinuyeOshiro

    Schopenhauer at 09:01 AM JST - 1st December

    What about America says OK! we will withdraw from Okinawa. we will not stay where we are not welcome. I want to see reactions to that

    I believe you would see the reaction of a great parade and people saying "there is a God". We say, go ahead and withdraw your troops, they need to be where there is a real threat to safety, like maybe South Korea, or the middle east or better yet to Fort Hood.
    For Society Mike who believe that Japan Pays Huge Amounts of money into the Okinawan Economy, you have to be in dreamland. The latest figures I read, show that of all the money coming into Okinawa Prefecture resulting from Military Base expendetures, amounts to 5% of the total income to Okinawa and of that 5%, 75% goes to mainland Japanese Business Interests that are involved in Businesses such as building bases and that money goes back to the mainland of Japan, so do your homework before you mention Huge amounts of money to Okinawa. We will do fine without you.

    We do not mind a few bases but there is no where you can go on Okinawa without being confronted by US Military. 37 bases is way to many, so I say, Go Home, find someone to protect like the Iraqi People or the people in Afganistan but keep them also safe from US Military, boys being boys and from collateral damage...

    Posted in: U.S. ambassador urges Japan to honor base agreement

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    KinuyeOshiro

    Interesting article by Mr Henry Hilton, who is probably "Basically" correct.

    The agreement of 2006 is not worth the paper or breath it was spoken of. When do new governments become obligated to deals struck by corrupt politicians of previous administrations. Obviously Americans all think that they are correct and assume as usual as they have for the past 60 plus years that Okinawa is "American Owned" won by the blood of American Soldiers of WWII.

    I would not dismiss the sacrifices of the soldiers of WWII but it still amazes me to listen to this garbage relating to Okinawa and what is best and what will happen blah blah blah.

    Okinawans actually do hate the fact that the US Military does what they want to on Okinawa, We actually do hope that the burden of Okinawa having to host the US Military will become a thing of the past.

    If the US Military really feels that they are in Asia, (Okinawa as 75% of the bases are on Okinawa) to protect Japan, then why not move the Futenma Air Station to the main land of Japan? I will tell you why not, it is because the Mainland of Japan does not want the US Military Presence there with the crimes and problems the bases bring and any American that tries to give facts and figures and stats and other B.S is no expert, just another foreigner who actually believes that Okinawa was invented for US Bases; Unfortunately Okinawans do not use force to push back bullies,they are easy targets to push sround. History will tell you that.

    The mindset of ignorance of Americans and other foreigners relating to Okinawa is amazing but I believe that Mr. Hilton has a better grasp on the situation, even though I want to see change. Even though Mr Obama is at least opening the door, it will be a long time before justice prevails.

    Moderator: Your inflammatory remarks have been removed.

    Posted in: The Okinawan problem isn't about to disappear in a hurry

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