To his credit, Senator Obama voted against the invasion in the outset. Whilst the surge has indeed reduced the level of violence, I don't see how it can honestly be classed as an achievement when the invasion itself was the root of a surge strategy being necassary to control…
Those of us, un-like yourself as you clearly showed us on the child torture thread, that are apalled to see bush co's use torture and imprisonment without trial - have a hard time taking him seriously when he's talking about human rights values in an address to Olympians.
If they at least fix a deadline to leave, which is what the Iraqi's want, under the premise that if things beging to fall apart to the state of '06 levels of violence then the withdrawl can be reviewed, I think it's a good thing.
Madverts at 12:08 AM JST - 23rd July
No, but I'll keep reminding you about your double standards on human rights!
Heh, and I want to play lead guitar.
Posted in Bush touts human rights values in address to Olympians at 12:08 AM JST - 23rd July
Madverts at 12:06 AM JST - 23rd July
No, he voted against creating un-known amounts of cadavers. Which you have.
Posted in New York Times defends decision not to run McCain's op-ed article at 12:06 AM JST - 23rd July
Madverts at 11:42 PM JST - 22nd July
Sailwind,
To his credit, Senator Obama voted against the invasion in the outset. Whilst the surge has indeed reduced the level of violence, I don't see how it can honestly be classed as an achievement when the invasion itself was the root of a surge strategy being necassary to control…
Posted in New York Times defends decision not to run McCain's op-ed article at 11:42 PM JST - 22nd July
Madverts at 11:38 PM JST - 22nd July
Those of us, un-like yourself as you clearly showed us on the child torture thread, that are apalled to see bush co's use torture and imprisonment without trial - have a hard time taking him seriously when he's talking about human rights values in an address to Olympians.
Posted in Bush touts human rights values in address to Olympians at 11:38 PM JST - 22nd July
Madverts at 08:36 PM JST - 22nd July
sarge,
"I see this thread has already morphed into a discussion of waterboarding."
Are you really surprised?
Heh, then again, bush supporters seem completely myopic to the double standards here...
Posted in Bush touts human rights values in address to Olympians at 08:36 PM JST - 22nd July
Madverts at 06:24 PM JST - 22nd July
I have no doubt. Sorry.
Posted in Rice warns Iran of 'punitive measures' at 06:24 PM JST - 22nd July
Madverts at 06:24 PM JST - 22nd July
"All their tired doomsday predictions show their desperation."
They're no different to the crazed loonies on the other side of the fence that think Europe is an Islamic colony...
The will be no strike on Iran becuase they actually are dangerous, and the region is ready to implode. Oh, and…
Posted in Rice warns Iran of 'punitive measures' at 06:24 PM JST - 22nd July
Madverts at 06:18 PM JST - 22nd July
Skip,
If they at least fix a deadline to leave, which is what the Iraqi's want, under the premise that if things beging to fall apart to the state of '06 levels of violence then the withdrawl can be reviewed, I think it's a good thing.
At the minimum, it…
Posted in Iraq backs Obama on 2010 pullout at 06:18 PM JST - 22nd July
Madverts at 05:06 PM JST - 22nd July
You'd think that the fact that even al-Maliki supports Senator Obama's withdrawl timetable would have made it into the headline...
Heh, this is surely going to implode heads on the radical right.
Posted in Iraq backs Obama on 2010 pullout at 05:06 PM JST - 22nd July
Madverts at 04:54 PM JST - 22nd July
westurn,
I'm still laughing at your 9-11 connection.
Moderator: Stay on topic please.
Posted in Bush agrees to time 'horizon' on Iraq troop cuts at 04:54 PM JST - 22nd July