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Odogma,
Where are your answers to my healthcare examples. Has Mitt Romney failed, was Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh lying about healthcare?
Your views about the healthcare debate doesn't seem to be steeped in reality.
It seems like I and adaydream are Obama and you and RomeoRamen are the Republicans at the summit.
Obama - real world facts and examples in the healthcare bill
Republicans - no answers just disagreement and excuses
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Metaphile
RomeoRamen,
Another excuse to justify for your own inadequacies. He became President because of Affirmtative Action not because the previous President ruined our country, took away most of Freedoms given to us by the constituion and lied to the entire World.
You must have seen the summit through Ramen bowl because the rest of the real world saw the Republicans....PAWNED! LOL
GOP party of NO
No answers No help No sense
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Metaphile
Odogma,
Real nice excuse to ignore my last three posts about real examples of Universal healthcare success by some of your favorite celebrities.(Romney,Beck and Limbaugh) Address a wider audience....yeah right. Who needs facts when we are talking about the real word?(sarcasm)
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Metaphile
Odogma,
Sense we are talking about examples then here is another one.
Rush Limbaugh had to go to a Hawaii hospital (where they have socialized medicine) and he came back talking about how they didn't ask to see his insurance card or anything when he entered and how people actually cared about him. When he found out that this was all due to "socialism," he instantly stopped talking about how wonderful it was and went back to brainwashing the masses that socialized medicine will "destroy America."
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Metaphile
Odogma
What does that prove? You are talking about one persons impressions of another country. Or where one of the best doctors are located. It says nothing about whether the healthcare system is better or not.
Example:
I see Glenn Beck always tout US has the best "Healthcare in the World." I also have video of him complaining that the healthcare is horrible. He went to the same hospital that the President of GE went to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVU1qvMqk3g
Your reasoning makes no sense! Try again!
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Metaphile
Oops, I meant Odogma.
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Metaphile
Get your misinformation together! Oops, I meant Odogma.
You also fail to mention the majority in that State are quite happy with their healthcare. You also failed to mention they don't suffer form the current problems plaguing most State governments as well as Americans. With government option those prices will be reduced and they will still have the same great quality. It seems like a win-win!
Massachusetts Healthcare facts that Odogma is not mentioning:
How is it being paid for?
Small businesses and self-employed
What doesn’t the plan do?
Who gets the credit or blame?
You don't see Mitt Romney talking about Healthcare because if he says it doesn't work then it is an example of his own failure. If says it does work then it goes against the "Party of NO" for no reason platform.
The say No because it doesn't benefit them.
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Metaphile
Vulcan,
Ok........Unless you have the results to those polls now then it means nothing and your simply jumping to conclusions. The same thing happened during the Bush and clinton years. It is a natural process. You sound like a Birther and the coming of the Apocalypse.
Skipthesong,
With more preventive medicine it means that people will need not to go to the insurance company for major ilnesses because they would be stopped or be maintained more reasonable means. Now people only go when it is too late to see the doctor which why costs for treatment are so high. Not to mention the need for most of the drugs will be unnecessary which are never aimed at curing the Patient. Which means drug companies and insurance companies will be less at odds with their customers and the governement. Less pressure to put new products on the market too quickly and to force companies to provide better medicines. This actually forces the insurance companies to become better because they will be competing with the government. Isnt't that capitalism?
Just putting tort reform in their with nothing to motivate the companies to do right by the by the people is crazy. We already know that most companies are acting unethical even when they have an advantageous situation. Tort reform just gives the companies a better advantage. Why not become better companies and law suits will be baseless and thrown out of court. The reason tort is so powerful because the companies have been shown to be at fault many times. It is like make the criminals the jailers.
Mitt Romney's state is another one with successful Universal healthcare. It was because of the deceased Kennedy who pushed to provide to all within his State. How many in that State are employed by the military? A lot less than 45%. You don't hear Mitt Romney talking about healthcare do you? That is because it is similar to what was being proposed. So once again,they should have it but not everyone else.
Skipthesong,
Do you make over the $250,000 to qualify? Did you actually plan on hiring full-time employees? Most of the time small businesses don't plan expanding that much or hire full-time workers because they don't want the hassle involved. It usually don't involve not having the money but it is just too much extra work.
Like I said, most of the proponents of these bills are people this will never apply to but somehow use the same excuses as the ones learned by shows like Faux news. The same people who will be get a tax break like "Joe the Plumber". Do you think those folks who is saying it is based on principle will be turning down the tax breaks given to them by the President. I think not. Do you think most of those small businesses was really planning on trying to provide healthcare to it's employees without the government's assistance. I think not. It makes you wonder what their disagreement is really about.
I see a President who actually trying do the things he promised. I see a President trying to make things better for all peoples in the country. I also see a party that is opposed to all these things the President is trying to pass based mostly on the fact they don't want him to succeed. Not because it is bad for the people but because it doesn't benefit them.
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Metaphile
Moonbeams,
Oops, my bad. I apologize.
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Metaphile
Skipthesong
People in Canada and other countries, get the same medicine we get from the same companies for half or less the price we pay because of socialized healthcare. It is more expensive in the US where these companies are located.
Even more of reason to provide healthcare for all. In these few States like Hawaii it is proof Universal Healthcare works. Why would we not make this available to everyone?
We would reduce more costs for everyone in the long run because of this preventive medicine. Healthcare is expensive because it is treating the problem when it has already started. It would have been cheaper through preventive medicine which is covered by Universal Healthcare in the first place.
It would get rid of all this tort. Insurance companies won't have so many payouts. They would need to pay so much for lobbyist. All the insurance dropping you when sick. People could keep going to work and not take off so much. Everybody wins!
President Obama's plan provided 95% of the poplulation with tax breaks. The same ones that own small businesses. Or are you talking about the "Joe Plumber imagination scenerio"? I would have a small business if I actually had money to get a small business. So I will be mad at Obama because in my imagination situation it would be challenging.
Even more so reason, for the Republicans to not whine or make up these apocalyptic scenerios to mislead voters. It won't go into affect for a long time.
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Metaphile
Vulcan,
It actually did work because most viewers saw that the Republicans had nothing to provide. Despite the majority of Americans want something to be done about Healthcare. It also showed how immature the Republican Senators because they saying simply No to say NO. Most of the Republican measures are already in the Bill. What is there excuse now?
You must have not seen the CPAC summit. Actually Young folks and moderate conservatives are leaving the GOP and thinking about a third party. They booing fellow conservatives you see in the media. For the extreme, un rational and false views.
Example:
Newly appointed Brown, who has been seen as a Benedict Arnold, actually voted with the Democrats recently because he felt it was best for the people of his State and not the Political Party of NO.
Glenn Beck spoke there and said: We should have to pay taxes and the gto the government and gave short History lesson about the country. Also that the government shouldn't be counted on to takecare of the people. (socialism) Then he said he didn't learn any of this school but by going to the library becuase it is free and anyone can do it. The same public library that our taxes pay to provide access to the people of this country. Stupidity at its Finest!
Childish behavior like that by Republicans are making themselves more foolish by the minute.
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Metaphile
I think they are doing it now while everyone is focusing on Toyota. Let the number #1 carmaker get the headaches while they quietly take care of their own concerns.
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Metaphile
moonbeams,
Where are you even getting your imaginary facts from. It was the Republicans who said that Healthcare Reform would hurt the Free markets for the Insurance industry from the beginning. What industry do you think Health Insurance companies are apart of?
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Metaphile
Athletes,
I have been to South Africa, Nigeria, Eritrea and Ethiopia. I have friends there.
We are talking about the labors. All labors working in the mining industry is well educated, thus it wouldn't be considered menial labor. By your own example, the Sudanese should be thankful for the Chinese intervention. Are you claiming all these folks are college educated? I think not. It is these folks who being treated like crap.
Are you also saying that China was justified in invading Tibet too? Your claim can also justify that situation as well.
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Metaphile
Odogma,
The Republicans were invited to show the American people just how ridiculious the Republicans were being. The bill has Republican ideas all over it....but because it came from a DEM President the methods and aproaches are wrong.....absolutely amazing. And some people want these clowns in power.
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Metaphile
TokyoRoughGuy,
You mean this "great uniter"
April 2006 Boston Newspaper http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/04/30/bushchallengeshundredsoflaws/
Where were you when all this happened? LaLa land!
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Metaphile
I meant to say:
This is one of the times in his Presidency, Pres. Obama, should actually behave like Bush Jr. Now that he has tried to include Republicans and they didn't want to help. Since they never offered any solutions but "NO". Just force it through. Bush Jr. shouldn't have gotten half of the things he did through Congress. Most notably the things that actually took our Freedoms away. He just pushed them through.
It is time Presdident Obama did the same. Let, those people judge him later. He also needs to start flaunting some of the things he has achieved. Like all the important terrorist figures he has captured since being in office. He has caught or eliminated more important Taliban and Al Qaeda figures than Bush and Cheney. Simply because they wanted to prolong the war and Pres. Obama is hoping to end it.
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Metaphile
This is one of the times in his Presidency, Pres. Obama, should actually behave like Bush Jr. Now that he has tried to include Republicans and then want to help. Since they never offered any solutions at but "NO". Just force it through. Bush Jr. should n;t have gotten have a things he did the Congress. Most notably the things that actually took our Freedoms away. He just pushed them through.
It is time Presdident Obama did the same. Let, those people judge him later. He also needs to start flaunting some of the things he has achieved. Like all the important terrorist leaders he has captured since in office. He has caught or eliminated more important Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders than Bush and Cheney. Simply because they wanted to prolong the war and Pres. Obama is hoping to end it.
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Metaphile
"In the reality, they were killed by jealousy of their charm to local women."
Athletes,
In real world reality it was because they were treating the locals like crap. The slave labor attitude they treat theeir own country men back home isn't going to work. Africa has a long memory/history of being exploited by mostly European, Western countries and sometimes their own people. The modern Africans/Blacks are more conscious of these things and if they can help will not go back to that life.
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Metaphile
I think Japan's run at the international Beuty titles are over for while. I think they need to get rid of Ligron. At this point she is just fleecing these young women. She is making money of their dream when Ligron knows almost all of those women don't have chance at competing internationally. Unless, you look at it as showing them how to find rich husbands.
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