Thursday February 16, 2012

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    Molenir

    Weiner lied about something that is no one's business, something we all do. Anybody asks you something personal about your sex life, you lie. And the lie is pure white as a fresh fallen snow. The black part of this picture are the ones releasing the details and asking the questions that are none of their business. Lies in response to that are expected and pure.

    Yeah. Once again you're wrong. I'm really starting to wonder if everything black for you is white, and everything white for you is black. You're upsidedown on so many issues.

    First, how many people get on facebook and twitter and send naked photos of themselves to complete strangers. I don't know how many, but I know its not everyone who is doing it. Weiner has issues, theres no question of that. Lying about it, trying to cover it up, is disgusting behavior, particularly attacking those who caught him, trying to accuse them of hacking his account. Vile behavior, and certainly not conduct becoming of a congressman.

    Posted in: New York Rep Weiner admits posting crotch photo, but won't resign

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    Molenir

    One very bright spot in an otherwise tawdry incident. The Republicans had a lock on that seat for decades.

    And hopefully will again in about a year and a half. Once the 'faux' tea party candidate is no longer on the ballot. That was akin to having the 'green' party on the ballot in the last election. It might have worked, but regardless of who's doing it, its still dirty politics.

    Posted in: New York Rep Weiner admits posting crotch photo, but won't resign

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    Molenir

    Weiner will survive this, much in the way David Vitter did.

    Yep. Agreed. Not sure about the ethics involved in this, but I doubt its enough to merit expulsion.

    He probably will survive politically since the Dems do have a tendency to let things like this go by. Remember the other NY Congressman (Rep) who sent pictures of his nude chest to a woman, he was forced to resign. He says he did it on his own, but it was the GOP behind him to make that decision. The press had a field day. I just hope that the press will give Weiner the same treatment, but I doubt it.

    I agree he'll survive, however I disagree that the press should make a huge issue of it the way they did with Lee. That guy shouldn't have resigned either. When it comes down to it, its a personal mistake by an individual. No one else is really being harmed, except those actually involved. Neither case involved criminal behavior. No one is perfect. While I would love to see Weiner defeated in the election, this shouldn't be the issue that decides that, but rather the fact that hes a loon.

    Posted in: New York Rep Weiner admits posting crotch photo, but won't resign

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    Molenir

    Dr. Dean stated that palin had a chance. He didn't say it was a good one. No one is worried about her. If you could have provided a name, you would have, but you didn't, so you asked me to look it up. There are none.

    Ah, you misinterpreted, and then I misinterpreted. Let me back things up and reset to clear the air.

    I don't think Lieberman was speaking specifically of Palin when he said that many Dems are worried. I know I wasn't.

    Dean says Palin has a chance if she decides to run, and she does, however beyond Palin, more and more Dems are worried about their chances in 2012. Not just with Palin as a possible candidate, but against Romney and others as well. I could cite multiple examples of this, from Carville, to obviously Dean, but I think we both see how weak Obama really is.

    As for Palin, while I admire the woman, for some of her stances, and for being able to take a hit and fight back, I agree I think she would make a poor candidate. What it boils down to for me, is regardless of the validity of her reasons, the fact remains she quit her post as Governor. I can't see voting for someone who did that, however much I like the positions she claims.

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    Molenir

    Molenir, it seems you care more than the people you call victims! I am all for making the world a better place, but I think you have the wrong end of the stick. While you seek to tackle this molehill, there are mountains about to crash down on our heads!

    Ah, I see you seek to dismiss this as not being a serious issue. Obviously you're neither a woman, nor have you been molested. Have you even been to Japan? Ridden a train there? Or are you one of those who thinks its kinda cool to feel up a stranger against her will?

    I look at this as a serious issue. And yes, I blame the victims when they refuse to stand up, because as I said, when they don't stand up for themselves, they are saying, that not only is what happened to them ok, but that its ok for it to happen to another. And that, is what really offends me.

    Posted in: Train groper tells police: 'I had some free time'

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    Molenir

    I was always against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, neither of which were started by President Obama. So, you're wrong yet again.

    How am I wrong? You still don't complain about Obama continuing the wars. My point stands. You're just another partisan sheep.

    The is the argument that enables the "RINOs" like no other. There's always an excuse for them. Which is why Palin and the whole lot of them are unfit. Zero integrity.

    Most Republicans would rather have a conservative elected then a RINO, but they're afraid that if they knock the RINO out, they'll lose the seat. Hell, that was the issue with Mike Castle in Delaware. On the other hand, if you allow a RINO in you end up with people like Snowe, Collins, and Brown, who then give the Dems the 'bipartisan' cover they're looking for. However this is true for you as well. You're against guns, but support someone like 'Dirty' Harry. You're in favor of abortion, but support someone like Barr. Why? Because they have the right initial next to their names. The majority of issues you agree with them. No one is perfect, and so you justify yourself in choosing someone more likely to get elected. However this last time, the Tea Party forced Republicans to realize, that they weren't going to get away with the Big Government agenda any longer. Either they were going to vote for a smaller government, or they were getting voted out.

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    Molenir

    Anything else is wasting spirit on dreams of a perfect world.

    Anything else, is making the world a better place. The more pervs are outted, the more they are marginalized so that they are looked down on and condemned. The fewer victims there are. What was that stat, something like 91% of women have experienced being molested? That is outrageously high. Those numbers need to be reversed, and it won't happen unless and until women stand up for themselves, and the next woman to be victimized by their molestor.

    Posted in: Train groper tells police: 'I had some free time'

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    Molenir

    LOL! I wonder what happens to all those Republican, partisan sheep who cheered Bush "the RINO" on every step of the way over those eight years. The only thing Republicans opposed him on was a perfunctory, token opposition to Harriet Miers.

    Coming from you, this means, absolutely nothing. I mean, talk about partisan sheep. Can you even come up with 1 thing. 1 single thing you would condemn Obama for? First you're against the war, now you're for it. All it took was a change in command. There were a lot of people who spoke out against Bush and what he was doing. I know I certainly did. I was in the unenviable position of defending Bush from the nuts on the left, and being lumped in with them by the partisan hacks on the right. Limbaugh was one of the biggest who spoke out against him, before his re-election in 2004. Of course given the choice between Kerry and Bush, obviously you'd choose the lesser of the 2 evils.

    Obama must be praying she gets the Republican nomination. The rest of the world will also enjoy her antics over the next 2 years.

    Over the next 6 if she gets the nomination.

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    Molenir

    Well Molenir, if it was not big enough a deal to them, why lose any sleep over it?

    Ah, so being groped is fine with them, but what about the gropers next victim? You think it will be fine with them? As I said by allowing people to get away with this, they are giving tacit approval for what is being done to them, as well as allowing them to victimize someone else. If you don't stand up and act, those guilty of this crime and others will repeat it, and possibly escalate it. And while being tossed in jail doesn't necessarily mean they won't repeat their offense, it makes the casual perv much less likely to re-offend.

    Posted in: Train groper tells police: 'I had some free time'

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    Molenir

    She's no match to Romney--not even close to anyone.

    I agree with this as well actually. Palin is a poor choice.

    What Republicans need but don't have is someone like Lugar, who has years of excellent service behind him, and who seems like a moderate in today's environment.

    After 8 years of Bush, this is the very last thing Republicans need. They don't need another moderate. Another RINO like Bush. They need, and the country needs, an actual conservative President who will make the hard choices, and put the country back on a sound financial footing. Lugar is another Big Government Republican just like Bush was. We have too many of those as it is. Thats why the Tea Party went after Republicans just as much as it did Dems. Why several senators got tossed, IE Bennett, and other party favorites we tossed aside in favor of folks like Rubio and Paul.

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    Molenir

    Of course women don't like it. We all have things we don't like. But its just HOW MUCH they don't like it that should tell us how to act.

    And my point is, that these pervs never stop at one. I guarantee you, this girl was not his first victim. The previous girl chose not to report him, and because of that, he went ahead and molested another. And once again, this one lets him off. I will bet you, he will molest another woman as well. And the first one, and this one too will bear some of the blame, simply because they didn't stand up and do what was needed to stop him.

    Posted in: Train groper tells police: 'I had some free time'

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    Molenir

    She is just dim enough to win the republican nomination in 2012. That would insure sane management of the country for another 4 years at least, maybe longer if Hillary runs in 2016.

    Wait, because she is dim, if she got the nomination, she would ensure the country is under sane management? Your logic doesn't follow. I mean, first theres the obvious flaw in referring to someone as incompetent and inept as Obama as sane management. Then theres the issue that it doesn't matter who the Republicans put up, Obamas done. When January 2013 rolls around, he'll be updating his resume. As will all his cronies and thugs. Especially corruptocrat in Chief Salazar. Hmm, I guess if I turned it around, you're saying that if the country is under Palin, that would ensure it is under sane management. Guess that makes sense. I mean hell, my dog would make a better President then Obama, and Palin would be much, much better then my dog.

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    Molenir

    I was upset and pushed him away but I didn't want to file charges or anything like that then either. I'm sympathetic to the girl and understand her decision...

    This kind of thing drives me crazy. When you choose not to file charges, you are essentially saying to your molester, that what they are doing is ok. You are saying, that they should go ahead and go out and victimize some other girl. If you do nothing, then you are at least party responsible for their further criminal actions. Do you have a daughter? If so, why not take her, find a molester, and give them permission to abuse your daughter? Because that is precisely what you are doing when you choose not to press charges. His next victim is someone elses daughter, someone elses child. No one should get away with this crap. Its not ok, not to do it, or to let someone get away who does it.

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    Molenir

    He gave an interview to Brent Baier of Fox back in 2010 and Baier totally embarrassed himself, throwing a lot of wild pitches. His April 2011 interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos had a lot of tough questions that Steph actually allowed the president to answer.

    Sure, and he went on O'Reilly as well. Lets keep in mind though this was after the Presidents plan and attempt to freeze out Fox failed. Also remember the recent controversy when a reporter asked the President a tough question, and was threatened by his staff. That happened just a month or so ago... Point being, he rarely appears on Fox cause he knows he'll get tough questions. They'll be respectful, but tough. Contrast this with all the interviews given to other networks, where they just give him softball questions, and never follow up with the the tough questions. MSNBC is probably the worst of the bunch. Talk about embarrassing yourself.

    Just when you think she couldn't get any dumber, Sarah Palin

    And yet here you go, still attacking her.

    Posted in: Palin kick-starts bus tour on back of motorcycle

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    Molenir

    What a loser. Dump the idiot.

    Posted in: Politician husband of actress Maki Mizuno spotted cavorting with hostess

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    Molenir

    Her decision to run and hide from any serious interviewer. Her decision to open her mouth and let words come out.

    Ah, so you're saying Obama isn't intelligent then as well. I mean about the only interviews he gives, are with guys he knows will lob him softballs.

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    Molenir

    If she was truly intelligent, she would have never--ever made a series of gaffes--like so many Japanese prime ministers.

    This is actually not the case. I have known several people, both men and women, who when they lose their cool, become almost incoherent. This doesn't mean they're not intelligent, it just means that after having their buttons pushed, rational thought leaves, and you're left with just your reflexes. I myself have had the experience of missing a great come-back on someone, and then thinking 6 hours later, damn, I should have said that... Bush is a smart man, but was about as bad as you can be about sticking his foot in his mouth. Palin is like the rest of us, flawed.

    OK. Please explain your definition of intelligence and what makes a person smart or dumb, if you don't mind asking. And what convinces you to judge she is "obviously intelligent"--in contrast to other female politician (i.e., Gabriel Gifford) or the First Lady (i.e., Eleanor Roosevelt, Barbara Bush)?

    Sorry, when exactly did I ever say any of the women you referred to were not intelligent? Rather then me explaining what should be obvious, why I feel she is an obviously intelligent, if imperfect woman, why don't you explain why you feel she is mentally deficient, and then of course defend your position. Allow me to start you off. Explain in your reasoning how this 'mentally retarded' woman could package herself well enough to get elected Governor. To vault to the national stage, and stay there, while making millions of dollars doing it.

    everybody is still all trying to figure out who Palin is, but at best she is a close to being the least prepared presidental candidate in U.S. history.

    lol, BHO was much, much less prepared than Palin, of course the way things are looking, he's going to surpass Carter as the worst President in US History, so thats not saying much. There were other presidents similarly unprepared. The 1st Johnson was a good example of that. I'd classify Grant that way as well. Truman was unprepared but landed on his feet.

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    Molenir

    I have always claimed that the Tea Party attracts and contains a substantial segment of white supremacists among its membership. It is far more than "one deranged member."

    Without any evidence, without anything to support this, you make these kind of blanket statements. Once again I simply point out the obvious hypocrisy in making such blanket statements an then decrying the same when others do it. My saying everyone on the left is unhinged and frothing at the mouth whenever someone even says Palin, is far closer to reality then your saying the Tea party is racist.

    Ed Shultz did not get a pass. He admitted what he had done was wrong, apologized, and was suspended -- properly -- by his management.

    Had it been a conservative, they would have been fired, without question. Shall I recall to you one of the more recent scandals on the right and contrast how that was treated? Trent Lott. Wall to wall coverage on every single liberal network. I remember that quite well. Fox covered it as well, though it didn't devote days to rehashing it. Shultz though says something so outrageously offensive and gets barely a mention of it beyond the next day on the main channels. They quite literally swept it under the rug. Now I agree, he apologized, and Ingram accepted his apology. Thats the way it should be with all these scandals.

    I would never back away from my opinion that Palin is utterly and completely unqualified by her intellect, her temperament, and her lack of ethics to even be considered as a candidate to run this great country

    No one is asking you to change your opinion of the woman. Just the constant attacks and belittling of a woman who is quite successful and obviously intelligent. We may agree or disagree on her qualifications for President. (I suspect we actually agree.) However I wouldn't stand to see any woman disparaged the way the left goes after Palin. Particularly when there is quite literally no logical reason or foundation for that reaction.

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    Molenir

    No progressive I know considers Bernhardt or Letterman to be spokespersons for the progressive movement. They are both entertainers as well as satirists. I personally am not a fan of either. Any remarks they have made against Palin or her family are reflective of them as individuals.

    Your comments made me laugh, particularly as I recalled, some of your earlier comments about the Tea Party. Heh, speaking of which, imagine if you will, if a member of the Tea party had said these same things about Obama's wife and daughters? You would have immediately jumped on them and pointed out their obvious racism. Don't bother to deny it, I have several of your posts on the subject saved if you'd like a refresher. So, you want to have it both ways. On the one hand, 1 deranged individual means an entire movement is tainted, on the other, it doesn't mean anything. So which is it yabits? Or is it just the leftists that get a pass from this hypocrisy?

    Especially while it is shown that many well known right-wing political commentators have made equally vulgar remarks.

    Really? Right wing commentators like oh I don't know, Ed Shultz? Or how about Don Imus, he's one of the right wing too right? Thats not to say you aren't correct. People on the right can say stupid things. The difference is, they tend to be denounced from their own side as well as by those on the left, while the left gives their own people a pass. Rather like what happened with Bernhardt and Letterman who received almost no condemnation for their comments from their lib friends.

    And this isn't even bringing up some of the more hateful things said about her on this board. Said by you among others. Just look up and re-read your own posts as well as those of others calling her an idiot, and belittling her. Are you backing away now from your own words?

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    Molenir

    How about forcing them to come to school in the morning, forcing them to sit in classes and pay attention, forcing them to - heaven forbid - do their homework? You can take this freedumb thing too far, you know.

    Totally different thing here, and people can always refuse. Then they suffer the consequences, just as they do when they eat poorly.

    But that's not really what you're saying. You're saying people who want food to be healthier in general are 'nazis', and the Republicans here are saying things should be left as they are (not offered healthier options, even) because it would be too expensive.

    I'm saying that people who want to remove all choices from others, yes are nazis. They are the nanny state which attempts to regulate what restaurants may serve, what parents may do, and what others may think.

    Options are good, but Cleo is right -- they're not good when they're not but garbage.

    In your opinion. But what if I decide your opinion is garbage and take it away? Thats really what this is all about. Trying to force your beliefs, your opinions down the throats of others. Trying to limit their options to make their own choices. Authoritarian regimes everywhere applaud this.

    Posted in: Republicans question healthier eating proposals

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