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Molenir
Yeah. Once again you're wrong. I'm really starting to wonder if everything black for you is white, and everything white for you is black. You're upsidedown on so many issues.
First, how many people get on facebook and twitter and send naked photos of themselves to complete strangers. I don't know how many, but I know its not everyone who is doing it. Weiner has issues, theres no question of that. Lying about it, trying to cover it up, is disgusting behavior, particularly attacking those who caught him, trying to accuse them of hacking his account. Vile behavior, and certainly not conduct becoming of a congressman.
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Molenir
And hopefully will again in about a year and a half. Once the 'faux' tea party candidate is no longer on the ballot. That was akin to having the 'green' party on the ballot in the last election. It might have worked, but regardless of who's doing it, its still dirty politics.
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Molenir
Yep. Agreed. Not sure about the ethics involved in this, but I doubt its enough to merit expulsion.
I agree he'll survive, however I disagree that the press should make a huge issue of it the way they did with Lee. That guy shouldn't have resigned either. When it comes down to it, its a personal mistake by an individual. No one else is really being harmed, except those actually involved. Neither case involved criminal behavior. No one is perfect. While I would love to see Weiner defeated in the election, this shouldn't be the issue that decides that, but rather the fact that hes a loon.
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Molenir
Ah, you misinterpreted, and then I misinterpreted. Let me back things up and reset to clear the air.
I don't think Lieberman was speaking specifically of Palin when he said that many Dems are worried. I know I wasn't.
Dean says Palin has a chance if she decides to run, and she does, however beyond Palin, more and more Dems are worried about their chances in 2012. Not just with Palin as a possible candidate, but against Romney and others as well. I could cite multiple examples of this, from Carville, to obviously Dean, but I think we both see how weak Obama really is.
As for Palin, while I admire the woman, for some of her stances, and for being able to take a hit and fight back, I agree I think she would make a poor candidate. What it boils down to for me, is regardless of the validity of her reasons, the fact remains she quit her post as Governor. I can't see voting for someone who did that, however much I like the positions she claims.
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Molenir
Ah, I see you seek to dismiss this as not being a serious issue. Obviously you're neither a woman, nor have you been molested. Have you even been to Japan? Ridden a train there? Or are you one of those who thinks its kinda cool to feel up a stranger against her will?
I look at this as a serious issue. And yes, I blame the victims when they refuse to stand up, because as I said, when they don't stand up for themselves, they are saying, that not only is what happened to them ok, but that its ok for it to happen to another. And that, is what really offends me.
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Molenir
How am I wrong? You still don't complain about Obama continuing the wars. My point stands. You're just another partisan sheep.
Most Republicans would rather have a conservative elected then a RINO, but they're afraid that if they knock the RINO out, they'll lose the seat. Hell, that was the issue with Mike Castle in Delaware. On the other hand, if you allow a RINO in you end up with people like Snowe, Collins, and Brown, who then give the Dems the 'bipartisan' cover they're looking for. However this is true for you as well. You're against guns, but support someone like 'Dirty' Harry. You're in favor of abortion, but support someone like Barr. Why? Because they have the right initial next to their names. The majority of issues you agree with them. No one is perfect, and so you justify yourself in choosing someone more likely to get elected. However this last time, the Tea Party forced Republicans to realize, that they weren't going to get away with the Big Government agenda any longer. Either they were going to vote for a smaller government, or they were getting voted out.
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Molenir
Anything else, is making the world a better place. The more pervs are outted, the more they are marginalized so that they are looked down on and condemned. The fewer victims there are. What was that stat, something like 91% of women have experienced being molested? That is outrageously high. Those numbers need to be reversed, and it won't happen unless and until women stand up for themselves, and the next woman to be victimized by their molestor.
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Molenir
Coming from you, this means, absolutely nothing. I mean, talk about partisan sheep. Can you even come up with 1 thing. 1 single thing you would condemn Obama for? First you're against the war, now you're for it. All it took was a change in command. There were a lot of people who spoke out against Bush and what he was doing. I know I certainly did. I was in the unenviable position of defending Bush from the nuts on the left, and being lumped in with them by the partisan hacks on the right. Limbaugh was one of the biggest who spoke out against him, before his re-election in 2004. Of course given the choice between Kerry and Bush, obviously you'd choose the lesser of the 2 evils.
Over the next 6 if she gets the nomination.
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Molenir
Ah, so being groped is fine with them, but what about the gropers next victim? You think it will be fine with them? As I said by allowing people to get away with this, they are giving tacit approval for what is being done to them, as well as allowing them to victimize someone else. If you don't stand up and act, those guilty of this crime and others will repeat it, and possibly escalate it. And while being tossed in jail doesn't necessarily mean they won't repeat their offense, it makes the casual perv much less likely to re-offend.
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Molenir
I agree with this as well actually. Palin is a poor choice.
After 8 years of Bush, this is the very last thing Republicans need. They don't need another moderate. Another RINO like Bush. They need, and the country needs, an actual conservative President who will make the hard choices, and put the country back on a sound financial footing. Lugar is another Big Government Republican just like Bush was. We have too many of those as it is. Thats why the Tea Party went after Republicans just as much as it did Dems. Why several senators got tossed, IE Bennett, and other party favorites we tossed aside in favor of folks like Rubio and Paul.
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Molenir
And my point is, that these pervs never stop at one. I guarantee you, this girl was not his first victim. The previous girl chose not to report him, and because of that, he went ahead and molested another. And once again, this one lets him off. I will bet you, he will molest another woman as well. And the first one, and this one too will bear some of the blame, simply because they didn't stand up and do what was needed to stop him.
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Molenir
Wait, because she is dim, if she got the nomination, she would ensure the country is under sane management? Your logic doesn't follow. I mean, first theres the obvious flaw in referring to someone as incompetent and inept as Obama as sane management. Then theres the issue that it doesn't matter who the Republicans put up, Obamas done. When January 2013 rolls around, he'll be updating his resume. As will all his cronies and thugs. Especially corruptocrat in Chief Salazar. Hmm, I guess if I turned it around, you're saying that if the country is under Palin, that would ensure it is under sane management. Guess that makes sense. I mean hell, my dog would make a better President then Obama, and Palin would be much, much better then my dog.
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Molenir
This kind of thing drives me crazy. When you choose not to file charges, you are essentially saying to your molester, that what they are doing is ok. You are saying, that they should go ahead and go out and victimize some other girl. If you do nothing, then you are at least party responsible for their further criminal actions. Do you have a daughter? If so, why not take her, find a molester, and give them permission to abuse your daughter? Because that is precisely what you are doing when you choose not to press charges. His next victim is someone elses daughter, someone elses child. No one should get away with this crap. Its not ok, not to do it, or to let someone get away who does it.
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Molenir
Sure, and he went on O'Reilly as well. Lets keep in mind though this was after the Presidents plan and attempt to freeze out Fox failed. Also remember the recent controversy when a reporter asked the President a tough question, and was threatened by his staff. That happened just a month or so ago... Point being, he rarely appears on Fox cause he knows he'll get tough questions. They'll be respectful, but tough. Contrast this with all the interviews given to other networks, where they just give him softball questions, and never follow up with the the tough questions. MSNBC is probably the worst of the bunch. Talk about embarrassing yourself.
And yet here you go, still attacking her.
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Molenir
What a loser. Dump the idiot.
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Molenir
Ah, so you're saying Obama isn't intelligent then as well. I mean about the only interviews he gives, are with guys he knows will lob him softballs.
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Molenir
This is actually not the case. I have known several people, both men and women, who when they lose their cool, become almost incoherent. This doesn't mean they're not intelligent, it just means that after having their buttons pushed, rational thought leaves, and you're left with just your reflexes. I myself have had the experience of missing a great come-back on someone, and then thinking 6 hours later, damn, I should have said that... Bush is a smart man, but was about as bad as you can be about sticking his foot in his mouth. Palin is like the rest of us, flawed.
Sorry, when exactly did I ever say any of the women you referred to were not intelligent? Rather then me explaining what should be obvious, why I feel she is an obviously intelligent, if imperfect woman, why don't you explain why you feel she is mentally deficient, and then of course defend your position. Allow me to start you off. Explain in your reasoning how this 'mentally retarded' woman could package herself well enough to get elected Governor. To vault to the national stage, and stay there, while making millions of dollars doing it.
lol, BHO was much, much less prepared than Palin, of course the way things are looking, he's going to surpass Carter as the worst President in US History, so thats not saying much. There were other presidents similarly unprepared. The 1st Johnson was a good example of that. I'd classify Grant that way as well. Truman was unprepared but landed on his feet.
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Molenir
Without any evidence, without anything to support this, you make these kind of blanket statements. Once again I simply point out the obvious hypocrisy in making such blanket statements an then decrying the same when others do it. My saying everyone on the left is unhinged and frothing at the mouth whenever someone even says Palin, is far closer to reality then your saying the Tea party is racist.
Had it been a conservative, they would have been fired, without question. Shall I recall to you one of the more recent scandals on the right and contrast how that was treated? Trent Lott. Wall to wall coverage on every single liberal network. I remember that quite well. Fox covered it as well, though it didn't devote days to rehashing it. Shultz though says something so outrageously offensive and gets barely a mention of it beyond the next day on the main channels. They quite literally swept it under the rug. Now I agree, he apologized, and Ingram accepted his apology. Thats the way it should be with all these scandals.
No one is asking you to change your opinion of the woman. Just the constant attacks and belittling of a woman who is quite successful and obviously intelligent. We may agree or disagree on her qualifications for President. (I suspect we actually agree.) However I wouldn't stand to see any woman disparaged the way the left goes after Palin. Particularly when there is quite literally no logical reason or foundation for that reaction.
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Molenir
Your comments made me laugh, particularly as I recalled, some of your earlier comments about the Tea Party. Heh, speaking of which, imagine if you will, if a member of the Tea party had said these same things about Obama's wife and daughters? You would have immediately jumped on them and pointed out their obvious racism. Don't bother to deny it, I have several of your posts on the subject saved if you'd like a refresher. So, you want to have it both ways. On the one hand, 1 deranged individual means an entire movement is tainted, on the other, it doesn't mean anything. So which is it yabits? Or is it just the leftists that get a pass from this hypocrisy?
Really? Right wing commentators like oh I don't know, Ed Shultz? Or how about Don Imus, he's one of the right wing too right? Thats not to say you aren't correct. People on the right can say stupid things. The difference is, they tend to be denounced from their own side as well as by those on the left, while the left gives their own people a pass. Rather like what happened with Bernhardt and Letterman who received almost no condemnation for their comments from their lib friends.
And this isn't even bringing up some of the more hateful things said about her on this board. Said by you among others. Just look up and re-read your own posts as well as those of others calling her an idiot, and belittling her. Are you backing away now from your own words?
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Molenir
Totally different thing here, and people can always refuse. Then they suffer the consequences, just as they do when they eat poorly.
I'm saying that people who want to remove all choices from others, yes are nazis. They are the nanny state which attempts to regulate what restaurants may serve, what parents may do, and what others may think.
In your opinion. But what if I decide your opinion is garbage and take it away? Thats really what this is all about. Trying to force your beliefs, your opinions down the throats of others. Trying to limit their options to make their own choices. Authoritarian regimes everywhere applaud this.
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