Wednesday February 15, 2012

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    Molenir

    Keystone is beneficial to America. It creates thousands of jobs that don't require federal money. Which is why "Dear Leader" hates it.

    Heh, and unlike the 'porkulus' it actually contains shovel ready jobs. Of course he wants it dead. I think he made his position on the economy perfectly clear when he killed oil production in the gulf. If that wasn't enough of a clue, add the burdensome EPA regulations they're rolling out, forcing the closure of around 40 power plants. Raising the cost of energy even further, and further squeezing an already damaged economy. Yep, Obama is focused like a laser on putting Americans out of work.

    Posted in: Obama rejects contested Canada pipeline

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    Molenir

    The Republicans didn't have a program then, nor do they no, other than abject opposition to everything. Unfortunately, unicorns just don't exist. If you want to analyse the state of the Republican partry, just look at the candidates that have been wheeled out.

    Ah, so the Republicans in the house have just been sitting on their hands this entire time I see. Contrasting sharply with the Democrat controlled senate which is constantly passing laws, which if implemented would actually help the economy. Sadly though, the House just ignores them completely... Ah, wait, think we're a bit backwards here.

    Republicans have put forward plenty of plans, to fix the economy, balance the budget etc, and yet neither Dirty Harry or Obama will let any of them go through. I wonder why that is? I mean, cutting spending is what Obama is all about now right? And of course he wants to fix the economy. Surely even a brainless moron could figure out that less regulation is good for business. And if its good for business, that means more hiring, more people working, more taxes coming in... All good things right? So why the ever increasing regulations? Why the deliberate choking of the American economy?

    Posted in: Huntsman out; Romney leads in South Carolina

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    Molenir

    Born into money and priviledge.

    Interesting... So, they didn't earn their money, it was all given to them. Contrasting with Obama who had to earn his money. Err, how much exactly does a community organizer earn anyway?

    Heck no. Romney, born into money, got even more money and more power and now wants to show off while offering nothing?

    You forgot, worked hard for what he's got, and has a lot to offer. Hell, even the worst of the Republican candidate, has more to offer then Obamas policies of failure.

    The Democrats will have about $600 million to spend on their campaign and Romney is going to be ducking mud from every angle - a position he is more than used to taking when deciding his policies.

    And it won't matter at all. Because in the end, we've had 4 years of Obama. 4 years of recession, 4 years of incompetence, corruption, and constantly increasing regulations to stifle the economy. No, when it comes down to it, all that matters is, whether people are better off then they were 4 years ago. Since the majority of people are in fact in worse shape then they were 4 years ago, Obama will lose to which ever candidate the Republicans eventually pick.

    Posted in: Obama allies blast Romney over taxes

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    Molenir

    Exactly right its an EEZ declared by Japan and recognised by no-one. Lets hope after the naming ceremony China sails a vessel straight up to these rocks as a show of protest after all it may be a EEZ declared by Japan but there is nothing Japan can do about other nations sailing around these islands now is there?

    Actually, its recognized by pretty much everyone but Taiwan and China. The ownership of the islands likewise is undisputed by anyone but those 2. Japan controls them. While this certainly doesn't help anything with the China/Taiwan relationship, it doesn't really hurt anything either. Japan won't be turning these islands over, nor giving up ownership, unless forced. If China wants to force the issue, it will have to deal with the US, hence the reason its just a dispute.

    Posted in: Japan to name islands in disputed area

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    Molenir

    If I were an illegal ship taking protected fish in protected water, I would expect to be harassed and would fight back! At the same time, they know they are wrong! The animal rights groups are and will continue to attempt to send a message to stop taking from the sea for profit and greed! The fight will continue and rightly so! I hope the Whalers loose in the end! Ignorant greedy bastards!

    So, how about if you were a legal ship, legally taking fish in international waters? Still expect to be harassed? See, your statement is nonsense on its face just by restating your premise using actual facts rather then opinion. That you don't like whaling is a given. It is however not illegal for the Japanese to hunt whales, under any convention or treaty you could name. And, neither is it illegal for Denmark, Iceland, or Norway to hunt whales. They pulled out of the treaty that would have prevented it, so it no longer applies to them. Only Japan is silly enough to actually try to work with the organization designed to manage commercial whaling.

    Posted in: 3 anti-whalers injured after Japanese crew throw hooks, bamboo poles at them

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    Molenir

    The republicans will nominate a morman flip flopper that most of them cannot vote for at all. Sums up the state of the republican party, its falling apart under the strain of massive amounts of stupidity and hatred for the black President.

    Yes, yes. The Republican party is dead. I remember hearing that a lot just after Obama was voted in. Course the the Republicans came back 2 years later, stronger then ever. And in all likelihood, will be gaining complete control of both houses of congress as well as the Presidency come November. No, I don't think your description of the Republican party has any basis in reality. Though its amusing to hear you proclaim it.

    Posted in: Huntsman out; Romney leads in South Carolina

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    Molenir

    Those who claim to be? Gingrich and Perry were vetted and supported by various Tea Party organizations. Their attacks on Romney are funded by right-wing organizations who can't stand Romney. What does this example clearly show: You can't trust the right-wing when there's power up for grabs. Put more simply: You can't trust the right wing, period.

    yabits. Any group that goes out and attacks capitalism is in fact, not conservative. They certainly don't believe in the free-market. Those attacks are what I would expect to hear coming from someone of Obama's ilk. Dems typically depend on the politics of greed and envy for votes. Hearing their arguments echoed from those who claim to be on the right is extremely disappointing. Its like they are shifting their positions as political winds determine. Thats what I don't like about Romney. And with them doing that, it puts them in the same camp as him, without any of his counterbalancing experience. All they had to depend on was their principles. When they abandoned them, they lost all respect. By the way, I have to say, that I'm a bit surprised that you chose to raise these nonsensical arguments about conservatives. Particularly since they can more easily and readily applied to those on the left, who are known for their hypocrisy and class warfare.

    Posted in: Romney team hits back at Obama's 'job destroyer' attack

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    Molenir

    Funny. That attack has been led by the Tea-Party-favored candidates of Gingrich and Perry. What does that tell you about "conservative" values? Tells me that they are situational in nature and that any attack on a fellow "Republican" is fair game when power is being sought after.

    Sorry for not responding to this point sooner yabits. I agree with what you are saying about those candidates. The attacks primarily came from those who claim to be on the right, though as we can see from this board, they are echoed and repeated by those on the left. As I said above, I don't like Romney. Prior to their attacks on capitalism, I would have supported Gingrich, and I might have held my nose and supported Perry. Their desperate attacks against Romney, and as you said, their values seem to shift, throws them more in line with Romney, who seems to jump from principle to principle. So the only decent candidate left is Paul. Who is, sad to say, a nutcase. Despite all this though, there is not a single candidate who would be less qualified, or make a worse President then our current incumbent.

    I find it simply amazing how so many ignorant conservatives want to promulgate the misinformation that the economy was fine until Carter inherited it.

    We've had this discussion before. I'm surprised you are still trying to push your own mis-information, to try to deflect blame from Carter. There is no question he was the worst President in US history, and not just because his inept leadership on the economy. But because Americas position in the world became significantly worse. Admittedly, part of the reason he is viewed so poorly, is because his predecessor, Reagan was so successful in reversing and undoing his missteps. Nevertheless, its seems pointless to argue this point, with you, when you are one of the fringe who view Carter this way, not because of reality, but simply because the man has a D next to his name. If he had had an R, I would bet you would be like nearly all Americans who view the Carter Presidency as a huge mistake. And who cast Carter, at least until our current administration, as the worst President in US History.

    Posted in: Romney team hits back at Obama's 'job destroyer' attack

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    Molenir

    I thought Liberals didn't believe in all of that God stuff. I don't either really but just saying....

    lol, best comment I've heard all day!

    Posted in: Romney team hits back at Obama's 'job destroyer' attack

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    Molenir

    Not making anything of tangible value; not making a profit - "making money." Yes, undoubtedly Romney excelled at that.

    In order to make money, you must exchange goods or services. This is true regardless of the position you are in. Whether the good you are providing is your time and energy, or whether it is the ownership of your own ipod. Or as might be the case, partial ownership of a company or part of a company. Goods and services are being provided and exchanged. Romney was good at his job, which at the time was to oversee Bain capital.

    Concrete examples would be appreciated here.

    How many do you need? Should I go down the list? From Solyndra to Fast and Furious, the list is very lengthy.

    Concrete, I said.

    Again, how many examples do you want/need? Shutting down oil production in the gulf, adding massive new regulations on banks and small businesses. I could continue, do I really need to, or are you capable of doing a small amount of research for yourself?

    Ah! This is more plaster of paris than concrete, but it's a start. Can you name, say, one Obama-instituted regulation that has had a negative effect on the economy?

    Certainly, I could name dozens. See above.

    Okay, I think that this is as concrete as we need to go. Thanks for your input, though.

    Rape and murder is obviously a very extreme example, and I would hope untrue, nevertheless, for some kool-aid drinkers, even on this board, an accurate description.

    As someone who does recognize and knows better from firsthand experience, profit is not the primary goal.

    Really? So you aren't in business to turn a profit? Is that what you are saying? I know I am. Without profit, I'm wasting my time.

    No. There is a marked difference between companies like Bain and others that exist with a successful business model which allows for consistent job creation. Using money to make more money for a relative few already-wealthy people is vastly different from using money to create opportunities for "ordinary" people to practice and grow their talents and skills to produce better products and services for ordinary consumers. I don't believe you could ever understand that.

    Based on what you are saying, and extrapolating it, you are more in favor of state ownership. Again, taking your statement to its logical conclusion. You are implying that it is the duty and role of those with money, to provide for, and create jobs for those without. That is not the case however, excepting in places like Cuba, or some former communist states.

    This needs to be put squarely and clearly in front of voters: Bain took over one company by pumping in $30M and taking out over $160M, by stripping and selling assets and killing jobs. One ordinary voter has asked: "Would $120M have been enough of a return if it could have saved a few hundred jobs?" If Romney's answer is "No," the voters need to understand that in no uncertain terms, and decide accordingly.

    So what you are saying, is that he acquired a business for 30 million, and sold it a few years later for 160 million. Now see, I view that as a huge success. Causing a companies net value to grow by more then 500% is somehow bad? Which planet are you from again?

    This assessment would mean something if it came from someone who didn't have such a poor ability to think and reason. President Obama's slow, steady, rising poll numbers are just one indication otherwise.

    Coming from a hardcore, died in the wool, kool-aid drinker, I cannot view this as anything but a compliment. See, you like so many other kool-aid drinkers, view everything with the idea that everyone who disagrees with you, is either less intelligent then you are, or simply evil. Since in fact most people in the US disagree with you, that means, to you, most people are either idiots, or evil. Your referring to me as being stupid, is therefore quite a compliment. If you were meaning to be insulting, then referring to me as smart, that would have been truly insulting.

    In contrast to you, I tend to view you kool-aid drinkers as being either deluded fools or hardcore partisans. I'm not really sure which you are. Though based on your posts, I generally lean towards the latter explanation. Oh, and please point out the steadily rising poll numbers you refer to. Pretty much every poll I've seen shows Obama as tanking. Though November is still quite a ways off.

    Posted in: Romney team hits back at Obama's 'job destroyer' attack

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    Molenir

    With Bain, the idea was just to make a small handful of people very rich while thousands lost their jobs.

    Umm, no it wasn't. Despite the desperate attempt to cast it that way. Jobs were never a consideration at all, neither providing them, or eliminating them. What was of concern was making money. As it is to all of us. Else why are we exchanging our time and energy. Even someone like yourself should recognize this, profit is the primary goal. People are employed by companies, not to provide a livelihood to them, or their families, but rather because companies need work done. Bain was the same as every other company. Its goal was to make money for its owners and operators. Romneys job was to do what was in the best interest of the company, not necessarily what was in the best interest of those who were then employed by companies owned or operated by Bain at the time. It was a job he performed very well.

    I agree, the typical one deemed "good" by Fortune magazine or Bloomberg, may turn out to be a horrible president, just as a humble community organizer may turn out to be a darned good one.

    I laughed when I read your comment here Yabits. Sorry, but trying to claim Obama has been anything but an unmitigated disaster for the US, from beginning to end, is just a joke. There is simply no question his administration has been both incompetent and corrupt. Additionally many of his decisions have had serious negative impacts on the economy, prolonging the recession unnecessarily. The additional burdensome regulations have likewise had significant negative effects on the economy, with real impacts on every American, as there are many people who have been laid off, and have been unable to find work, simply because companies aren't hiring in todays business climate. About the only ones who think Obama has been even slightly decent, are kool-aid drinkers. And for them, it really doesn't matter what he does. He could rape women, and murder babies. As long as he has a D next to his name, they would still defend hm.

    Posted in: Romney team hits back at Obama's 'job destroyer' attack

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    Molenir

    My point remains: a good CEO does not necessarily make a good president. The last "business" president the US had (excluding Bush, who rode on his family's coattails) was Herbert Hoover.

    Except that Romney is not just a business President. He has had far more then just a successful term as CEO. He also has successfully managed an Olympics, and the state of Massachusetts. No, there is no question that he has the skills and talent to handle the Presidency. Indeed, far and away better then the current occupant. Assuming that Romney does get the nomination, it will come down to a question of politics and trust. Who do people trust to manage the country, and who are they more aligned with politically.

    Posted in: Romney team hits back at Obama's 'job destroyer' attack

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    Molenir

    Ooh, I hope the cat is ok.

    More seriously, is really sad. Hope the woman will be ok.

    Posted in: Falling cat leaves Argentine woman critically injured

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    Molenir

    Actually, what you should realize is that any failure of Obama is due to extension of george bush's time in office -- ie. the debt skyrocketed due to bush and Obama could do nothing against it that the GOP would not say 'no' to. What's more, thanks to Obama, last month's jobless rate was the lowest it's been in... wait for it... a long time (including towards the end of bush's second term!

    Way to duck the question smith. I wonder, how long would Obama have to stay in office, and how long would the Dems have to remain in complete control of government, before Dems actually took the blame for the results of the decisions, rather then try to pass the blame on to Republicans. I mean, even back when Dems had complete and total control of congress, Republicans were to blame for everything the Dems screwed up. It was always Republicans getting in the way, that messed everything up. Even with Dems had a filibuster proof majority this was the case.

    On the subject of this article. I find it sad, that Republicans themselves are now pointing to Romneys decisions while CEO, and claiming he killed jobs? He had a very successful, and profitable term as CEO. And yet, all the decisions he made, and those made both before and since he was the CEO at Bain capital are now being laid at his feet. I read one article that claimed that he was somehow responsible for workers being laid off by Bain in 2006, some 7 years after he stepped down as CEO. The leaps and contortions required to make this connection are staggering. Would be like saying I am responsible for causing cancer because I own a few shares in a tobacco company. Contrast the nonsense being thrown ad Romney with the question many people have asked, and which smith was so quick to try and deflect. What has Obama done to create jobs? Or since there are tons of examples, perhaps it would be better to ask, what has he done to kill them?

    I don't even like Romney. To me, he is George Bush Lite. He's another big government Republican, and I really, really don't want another one of those. However since 95% of Americans would make a better President then our current one, I suspect I'll end up voting for the man if it comes down to him and Obama. I would have preferred either Cain or Bachman. After that, I would have supported Gingrich or, hold my nose, Perry. Until they came out with these moronic attacks. Now I'm left with Paul, who is, to be kind, a nutcase. However even he, nuts as he is would make a better President then Obama, and probably be better for the country then another Big Government Republican like Romney. Sad when it comes down to a choice between a lib with an R next to his name, and a loon like Paul. And then knowing that both would be better then the guy with the D, you have to wonder what the country is coming to.

    Posted in: Romney team hits back at Obama's 'job destroyer' attack

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    Molenir

    Like fixing your roads, highways and investing in renewable energy. Yeah, that's pointless - why would Americans want their roads fixed? Why not just throw away another couple of trillion dollars of borrowed money on another foreign war like conservatives always seem to want to do?

    Oh, is that what he's saying he's going to spend it on this time? Wow and here I thought he was just going to flush it down the drain like he did the last 3 trillion he was given. Silly me. He's serious this time though right? I mean, the man responsible for the single biggest increase in federal spending, the largest expansion of the federal government. The man who claimed he would have the most transparent administration in history... Heh, maybe we should be hoping he will change? Or maybe we should simply hope for a change, by pressing the button for Anybody but Obama.

    When the president and Democrats propose a job creation strategy, the GOP/TP simply say "N."

    Heh, contrast this with the Dems mantra for every single thing passed by the house... Nonononononononononononononono (add fingers in their ears, and the obiligitory tantrum) nonononononononononononononono

    The modern Democratic party everyone!

    Posted in: Obama takes on big government: 'It has to change'

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    Molenir

    Well, Israel already have their fingers on a nuclear bomb button and are already committing genocide.

    Sorry, I must have missed that. Genocide? Where? Which group of people did Israel wipe out?

    Not too sure what ludo hear is trying to talk about red buttons, but, the fact is that Iran is trying to fight with the big boys, with big time nuclear weapons, and Iran must suffer the consequences, because no body believes them with all of that oil that they need nuclear power for so called peaceful purposes, so my guess is that the Israelis, with their highly trained Mossad killed this guy off, maybe sad, but Iran has only itself to blame, not even the Russians nor Chinese are behind them now.

    No one wants to see a nuclear Iran. Well, except for the hardcore muslim extremists.

    Posted in: Iran leader says CIA, Mossad behind scientist's murder

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    Molenir

    Because the Senate wouldn't allow it. There have been more filibusters during Obama's time in office than all of GWB's combined, no? It doesn't matter WHAT the Democrats propose, the GOP simply says no because the Dems proposed it -- hence, "party of 'no'".

    Sorry smith, your Dems have taken that particular title. They aren't even proposing anything anymore, just waiting til Republicans propose stuff, then say no. Democrats since 2010, have now become the party of No. No ideas, and no solutions. All they do is criticize the Republican for proposing ideas that were they implemented would create real change. Spurring the economy and reducing the deficit. Sad that the Dems have fallen so far.

    In fact, they wear ignorance and hate as a badge of pride.

    Coming from you that means, absolutely nothing. Dems use ignorance and hate as their primary weapons. They depend on it. Promoting hate between the haves and the have nots, depending on the ignorance of the masses to get themselves re-elected. Whats amusing is that they then try to accuse Republicans of using them. As if to say, no, don't look at us, we're not the ones who are corrupt. We're not the hatemongers... It really is pathetic to watch.

    Finally, a Republican candidate with scruples, intelligence, and integrity!

    lol, you mean you're no longer supporting Huntsman to be Obamas running mate? Huntsman, the Democrats choice!

    On the subject of the article. I have to say, I've never been a Romney supporter. As a person who believes in a small, limited, constitutional government, I've never believed Romney was the right person. Although I have to say, of all the people who were running for President 4 years ago, he was the best choice out of all of them. Hillary being 2nd. However I don't particularly like the guy. That said, these attacks by Newt and Perry have turned me off to them entirely. After Cain and Bachman withdrew, I was seriously considering voting for Gingrich, and debated supporting Perry as well. Now though, I'll probably vote for Paul, who is a complete nutcase.

    Posted in: Rivals go after Romney ahead of South Carolina vote

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    Molenir

    lol. Considering he is responsible for the current state of what passes for 'justice' in Russia, him saying he is going to clean it up, isn't particularly believable.

    Posted in: Putin vows to end police repression in Russia

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    Molenir

    Those that did it should proudly say they did.

    If I had to guess, I would say its most likely Mossad. But based on how incompetent some of their operations have been recently, I wonder. The CIA is a bogeyman, but the US doesn't do assassinations. Or at least not like this. The most it does is send in drones to blow people up, not car bombs. It also makes it clear they were the ones responsible. Honestly, at this point, I'm leaning towards the Russians. They are much better known for assassinating people, and seeing as Iran is a near neighbor, they don't want to see them going nuclear either. They also have a reputation for competence and effectiveness.

    Of course its all conjecture. Could be CIA, Mossad, the GRU. Heck, it could be an internal Iranian faction, or Pakistans ISI.

    Posted in: U.S. denies role in Iranian scientist's death

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    Molenir

    Dishonest as always. Moving on.

    Good of you to finally admit your bias yabits.

    Funny. I was not aware the BBC News reported pure fantasy.

    Heh, good one.

    Posted in: Iranian judge sentences American to death for spying

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