Monday May 28, 2012

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    Molenir

    People have to recall that Walker is on record admitting that his team considered bringing in thugs to incite violence and cause trouble. Therefore, any reports of threat and violence have to consider Walker's team as a possible source.

    Hehe. You just keep telling yourself that. Which state do you live in again? I have the sneaking suspicious its Denial. Lets be realistic here, the people making these death threats are your typical left wing, jack booted thugs. The only thing they haven't done, is committed actual physical violence. Yet. Intimidation and threats, vile and disgusting slurs. All these things are there. I say again, what if this was the Tea Party doing these things. Care to comment on the reaction to that?

    As it stands, at least two Republican senators are going to be recalled. They will be removed and this travesty will be corrected. Wisconsin has a very proud history of union involvement going back over a century -- fighting against two-faced crooks like Walker his cronies in the Senate.

    lol, thanks Yabits. Best laugh I've had all day. Reading about all the horrors that are taking place, with Fukushima and the Tsunami, I definitely needed that.

    The T-Party hasn't been around for three years. The Democratic "power grab" was done via the ballot box, decent Americans having had their fill of Republican lunacy.

    As they demonstrated just 5 months ago... Whoops, think ya got that backwards. Par for the course though eh?

    Posted in: Wisconsin approves anti-union measure

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    Molenir

    Clearly you cannot be free in Wisconsin -- it's a fascist state.

    Based on the death threats issued by the pro-union jack booted thugs, you might be right. But then I've come to expect that from those paragons of hypocrisy on the left. I've also come to expect the lack of coverage by the left wing loons in the media. Imagine if the Tea Party did what the mobs in the capital did.

    Because the police and fire-fighters unions supported Walker in his campaign and this is his political payback. It has nothing to do with principles.

    I don't know if thats true or not, but I do agree that they shouldn't have been exempted. All public employees should be stripped of collective bargaining rights. Should make it just like it is on the Federal level.

    Posted in: Wisconsin approves anti-union measure

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    Molenir

    Good try, Tea. It is a fault. You know nothing in US history. Hilarious, hilarious, hilarious. No more debate with you, worthless.

    Actually, she made a very good and valid point. The 'protestors' did trash the capital, the Dems fled the state rather then allow a democratic vote, and you claim by stating these obvious facts, she somehow knows nothing of US history and is not worth debating? Allow me to disagree. Its obviously you who isn't worth debating.

    Posted in: Wisconsin approves anti-union measure

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    Molenir

    I wouldn't want to be in their shoes now.

    lol. Yabits, all Republicans need to do, is point to the 3 weeks of mob rule. 3 Weeks where the Dems shut down and interfered with the peoples business. 3 weeks of demonstrated bile and hatred on the part of the left. No, I wouldn't worry about the Republicans in Wisconsin. Not at all. The dems who ran away, they should worry.

    This fight has a long way to go yet. Incredible in this day and age in the land of the free (sort off) laws are being passed to deny workers the right to sit down with their employer and discuss wages and conditions of work.

    Obviously you don't understand at all what just passed. Workers can sit down and discuss anything they want. However now, the taxpayers have a seat at the table, rather then the corrupt scheme where the unions negotiate sweetheart deals with the pols, and then in turn work to re-elect those same pols. No, this at least restores some sanity to an untenable and unsupportable situation.

    Posted in: Wisconsin approves anti-union measure

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    Molenir

    That is about as bad a BS statement as it gets; Christians and Muslims get along fine. You can always find a few morons in any religion who can be convinced to do anything.

    So Sabi, what you are saying, is that any Muslim that discriminates against, or commits an act of violence against a Christian, because he is Christian, is then a moron? So much of Egypt with its institutional discrimination, Pakistan where Christians have next to no rights, and most of the middle east is basically filled with nothing but morons. Again, going by what you've said. Where Muslims are a minority, I'd actually agree with your statement, at least in general. I except places like France and the Netherlands that have huge problems with Muslims. I also exclude generally Indonesia, one of the largest concentrations of Muslims in the world. Despite its religious police, they are actually pretty tolerant of Christians in general. However in just about every other single Muslim majority country, they despise Christians. Its institutional and endemic. Trying to deny it does no change this reality.

    Posted in: Christians and Muslims clash in Cairo, 1 dead

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    Molenir

    You want to take away their collective bargaining rights just to get at those mythical 90K people.

    Actually no. My opinion is, that no public employee should have any collective bargaining rights at all, excepting perhaps for on the issue of wages. They are public employees. If they want to have certain protections given by unions, my own opinion is, that they should work in the private sector. Targetting teachers directly, tenure should be done away with completely, for all teachers. Whether or not a teacher keeps their job should be determined by classroom performance, not how long they've been teaching. Same thing with salaries.

    And what do you get for having collective bargaining rights with your teachers? Better education, that's what. But conservatives are dumb and don't care if their children are dumb too so who cares if the states with no collective bargaining agreement for their teachers rate 44th, 47th, 48th, 49th, and 50th in ACT/SAT scores.

    I seriously doubt your numbers, particularly since there are currently 8 states that don't allow collective bargaining for teachers, not just 5. Where did you get these figures?

    Increased pay for teachers does not add up to better education. Increased money spent on education, likewise doesn't mean better education. Theres kind of a disconnect here. People think that throwing more money at the problem, will yield better results. That simply isn't the case.

    Fortunately, Walker and the Wisconsin Senate today did what many of us have been suggesting for weeks. They separated the collective bargaining issue, and passed it as a non budget item. Meaning they didn't need the Dems there to pass it. So the Dems who have been holding up the debate for weeks, now get no debate on it at all.

    Posted in: Wisconsin governor rebuffs Democrats' request for meeting

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    Molenir

    They show up to play the "class warfare" card, telling people they have to work till they're 75 to support someone who took a contract to work under a system where they could retire earlier.

    Can you believe Yabits has the balls to talk about playing the 'class warfare' card? Him of all people? So funny and hypocritical. Particularly when his next comment includes this...

    Anyone looking at the massive disparity of wealth distribution in the United States today would have to wonder if it wouldn't be better if there were more collective bargaining rather than less

    There is no official calculation of the average salary of Wisconsin public school teachers, according to Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction spokesman Patrick Gasper. The National Education Association estimates the average Wisconsin teacher’s salary to be $51,121. The state Department of Public Instruction only calculates average teacher salary and benefits on a district by district basis. As of fiscal year 2010, none of the school districts in Wisconsin had an average teacher salary of $100,000 (as our reader asked) or even $89,000 (the amount Paul said the average teacher in Wisconsin "is making.")

    Whats the highest paid teacher, in Wisconsin? Tell you what, they're making over 90k a year. So while your statement is correct, that the average teacher salary isn't that high, the top teachers, who have been there the longest, note not the best teachers, are getting paid that amount.

    I think you've nailed their game plan: Dumb kids convert into more Republican voters in the future. The higher a person's educational achievement level, the more likely they tend to be liberal.

    Thats only if they get the 'right' teachers. If they don't get the teachers to steer them in the 'proper' direction, they tend to wind up conservative, particularly once they get out of college and see just how much waste there is in government, and how much they have to pay to support that waste. If however they can be properly indoctrinated, and taught to ignore reality in favor of 'ideals', then sure they wind up liberal.

    Posted in: Wisconsin governor rebuffs Democrats' request for meeting

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    Molenir

    Wow, some Christians must have done something real bad to deserve that.

    Yep, to the Muslims, there is no greater crime, then being Christian. That is about as bad as it gets.

    Posted in: Christians and Muslims clash in Cairo, 1 dead

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    Molenir

    It seems you really can't comment much these days except to call people idiots and claim those who post what you don't agree with as unintelligent.

    Lack of time, and changing priorities. That said, isn't that what most of us do? :D

    Ahem, unlike what Walker wants, I suppose? which is to deny collective bargaining rights so that he gets whatever he wants with no questions asked. Please, my friend. Look over there at all those trees... they ARE the forest!

    No questions asked? Do you really think, even for a second, that this is what will happen, even under the new rules? They are changing the rules to target specific areas. (IE benefits) The unions can still collectively bargain for wages etc. Not only that, but police and fire are still exempt. Unions aren't getting the shaft here, not even close. Even with these changes, they still will have sweet deals, that the private sector would love to have. I notice also you chose to ignore, that so inconvenient facet that Libs always prefer to not talk about. The corruption inherent in the relationship between politicians and public sector unions.

    Posted in: Wisconsin governor rebuffs Democrats' request for meeting

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    Molenir

    A no-fly zone would seal Gadhafi's fate so western countries should just make the initial moves because the moment he thinks it's going to happen Gadhafi will try to escape by plane(if he still can) or by boat. "Fight to the death and the last drop of blood". Believe me, this guy will scurry like a rat.

    Maybe, but ya know, I really don't want to push this maniac into a corner. Aside from this, I say it again, how is this any of the US business? Because Libya produces oil?

    Posted in: Libyan warplanes hit rebels as UK, France seek no-fly zone

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    Molenir

    And yet Walker still insists on dilluting the ability of public servants to protect themselves against unfair labor practices. It makes no damned sense at all, unless, of course this all has nothing whatsoever to do with balancing a budget or doing the work of the people, but rather striking an ideological blow again unions, the wet dream of every Republican not protected by them.

    Do you really believe, for even a second, that this is what its about? Reading silliness like this makes me start to question the intelligence of some posters. I start to wonder, do they really believe their own propaganda, or are they just deluded idiots?

    The unions using collective bargaining force politicians to accept deals that benefit them. They then turn around and ensure that these same politicians that gave them these deals, get re-elected. This continues, as the unions push for a better deal, the pols see it in their best interest to give in to the union demands. Not being represented here, is the taxpayers. This corruption is why so many people, even on the left criticized this. FDR himself had some choice words to say about it. Its also why Carter made it so Federal employees don't have these same rights.

    In Wisconsin as well as many other states, this corrupt relationship between the Dems and the unions has lead to a huge imbalance between public and private sector workers. Public sector workers tend to take in more, and get much, much better benefits then their private sector counterparts. So, if you address the current imbalance, by reducing benefits, while that will help, it won't address the structural problems that led to this situation. Taking away the collective bargaining benefits over benefits (note not over wages), means that the governments can deal with them fairly. Unions will still get sweetheart deals. However it won't be so much of an automatic thing. Pols will start to think what is more in the interest of their constituents, not will doing this piss off the unions and lead me to get canned. Or at least this is the idea.

    What the Wisconsin Dems are doing isn't new or unique. One of the founders of the Republican Party, Abe Lincoln, once exited out a second-story window to deny a quorum to vote on a piece of legislation his party didn't like.

    And did he run away for more then a month to deny that very same legislation?

    Posted in: Wisconsin governor rebuffs Democrats' request for meeting

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    Molenir

    With Obama at the helm? As a community organizer he's used to talking about a problem until it either goes away or someone else fixes it. Unless Europe, Mexico, China or the UN decides to get involved, Libyians are on their own. If the Libyian military doesn't actively side with the rebels, the pro Gadhafi side will eventually win.

    Big Daddy USA should stay the hell out of other peoples business. We have nothing to do with Libya, our people are not being murdered, the property belonging to our citizens and companies is not being seized. Why should we go in? How is it any of our business? This is a concern for Libya and their neighbors. Not the US.

    Posted in: Libyan rebels try to regroup after setback

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    Molenir

    The USA being involved in a no-fly zone would mean the USA was indeed involved. I think they and the rest of the world should stay out of this one and let the Libyans figure their futures out for themselves. The USA getting involved again in another country's fight just means people whining about the USA later. If the UK and France want to stick their noses in, I say let them go for it. The US should sit this one out. Nothing good will come of them getting into this.

    Agreed. Why is what happens in Libya, any business of the US? Is the Libyan government attacking US citizens, seizing US property? The US is not, and should not be the worlds policeman.

    One sentence : Mind your own business!!!!

    Completely agree.

    Posted in: Libyan warplanes hit rebels as UK, France seek no-fly zone

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    Molenir

    This idiot governor should do the right thing and shut up, seppuku and let the good hard workers of Wisconsin get on with their lives, Throw this bozo out into the cold!

    This is easily one of the most idiotic things I've read on this site. I realize that saying this is actually insulting to idiots, but it really does fit the bill. Tell me, where do you stand on the health care bill? Should the Republicans have fled congress rather then let the Dems pass it? Or should they have stayed and fought it out, and of course lost because the Dems had the votes, even if the public was and is against them? Well, the shoe is on the other foot here. This bill is going to pass. It has more then enough votes, theres nothing the Dems can do to stop it, except to run away in order to prevent a quorum being present. Thats not how government works. Even if you don't like it. You work to repeal what you don't like when you do have the votes, and fight against it when you don't. Running away is not the answer. And the rank stupidity shown by people who want to put all the blame on Walker, is pathetic.

    Whats much more likely to happen, is some of these Dems facing a recall election of their own. And since they won't even be in the state to run for office...

    Posted in: Wisconsin governor rebuffs Democrats' request for meeting

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    Molenir

    So the problem is what? Is there a law saying you can not video destroyers?

    Try getting that close to any US warship. See what happens.

    Posted in: Japan protests over Chinese chopper that neared warship

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    Molenir

    That blond on the right is definitely the best looking. Too bad shes a doll...

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    Molenir

    Liberals and progressives believe nothing of the sort. This is another in a constant stream of conservative distortions of the truth.

    Perhaps this isn't the case, but what you are saying, and what libs are doing, is somehow so very, very different.

    I doubt if any conservative had enough IQ to truly understand the problems of the "rust-belt" states. They certainly don't have any solutions other than looking for a liberal to blame. Indiana has been a red state and its unemployment rate is as bad as Michigan's.

    While Indiana tends to vote Republican in presidential elections, otherwise its much more mixed. For example, the house flipped from Dem control to Republican control in the most recent election. Not only that, they had a Dem senator as well. How is it you can get away with calling it a red state?

    Posted in: Michael Moore rallies pro-union protesters in Wisconsin

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    Molenir

    That's not what Huckabee was doing. He was accusing people like Portman of somehow going out of their way to "glamorize" having a child.

    Is that what he was doing? I read his statement, both of them, and totally missed that. Way to read between the lines. Although it would probably be more accurate to say, make stuff up. He said being an unwed mother is not a good thing, it is much better to have a father in the picture if possible. Are you saying he is wrong?

    Posted in: Huckabee denies criticizing Portman's pregnancy

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    Molenir

    and who would you like to sue Hemplord? It seems you think some should be sued

    I suggest suing god. I wonder which court has jurisdiction?

    Posted in: New Zealand earthquake toll at 145 dead

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    Molenir

    The justice ministry drafted in 1996 a bill allowing married couples an option to keep separate surnames was shelved by conservative lawmakers just before submission to parliament. It has since stalled.

    Drafted in 1996 huh. Yeah I guess you could say its stalled.

    Posted in: Court rejects couple's surname appeal

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