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Nippon5
Once again you didnt read.
You have become a waste of time sorry.
No more stupid games for you.
Goodbye get your parting gift at the door.
Come back when you not trying so hard to be a bung hole.
See ya.
Enjoy your couch...
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Nippon5
Wow. You can not read well ey? only dodging is your dodging of the facts and reality.
Friends =Christian.. as stated in the post
I not posting any links as there are to many that explian the religious issues in Iraq before and during Saddam. I posted all that information. As I have said before you can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink.
Take the time read, study then come back to post your nonesense. Right now your just being silly and wasting bandwidth.
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Nippon5
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3514504.stm Here likeitis. A poll of Iraq one year after the initial invasion. Seems most are saying it is better then.
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Nippon5
Sorry I figured your fingers actually could type outside of JT. Islamic is the main religion in Iraq, but the religion is split between shias and Sunnis These two groups held very different religious beliefs then the other major group the secular Baathists. Does that help fill your void for the religious sects? Or do you want me to go into detail of the Christian and Jewish sects too, since they had been targeted by the Islamic groups.
And My friends where Christians. I met them when we (the US military)pulled them from Iraq during the original Gulf war. They had been terrorised by Saddams rule.
And the statement of "the US invasion is killing people without distinction" shows you have no idea what care is taken to not hurt innocents. People who talk like you have never left a couch and actual served in war. They dont understand that the troops are human and are not blood thirsty monsters out to kill children (like Hitler, Saddam,). Many of the Americans who died in Iraq die because we have a code in the use of force, we didnt just shoot the lady with the backpack because she acted strange. Then they die because that innocent looking person had a bomb. My friends and family are in that area and to say they kill without distinction is not just wrong it shows the lack of intelligence and common sense on the part of the speaker of those words.
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Nippon5
Yea its called any news agency in the world
Use google and serch any news reports from the era of Saddam. Just asking that question shows your bias. Or you can follow any of the thousands of links on JT about the subject. You do make me laugh though with the tactics of questioning factual statements to try to build a case.
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Nippon5
I also know a few people who lived in Iraq at the time before and after the gulf war. They moved back there after 2005. They say since Saddam killed many of there family members because of the religion they had, and they had to live in fear all the time he was in power they think the new situation is much much better. They now have a nice place to live and good business they own. They say they havent seen much in the way of violence in their area of the city. They have some issues but over all they are happy with the way things are going. Just so you know they where not part of Saddams party. They also dont like Bush for their own reasons, but they hated Saddam like any person would hate a man who has their family members murdered and thrown into a mass grave.
See always two sides to a story.
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Nippon5
From Europe.
Fact is we dont know if this guy hated Bush. He could of been paid to do such actions.
The question wasnt one of who hates who it was of if the leader was Saddam and the guy threw a shoe at him. Its used to compare the difference of freedom and no freedom. I know its a hard thing to remember but Saddam was a brutal dictator who used GENOCIDE to get his point across.
Also I just ran Adaydreams numbers on 100000 dead parents and over a million parent less kids. each parent had to have ten children each. Seems someone is pulling BS numbers out of his butt again.
The war is bad and just like any war civilians die, but to blame every homeless child and death on the US is just plain stupid, the country had homeless children and a goverment (and religious sects) killing people before the US invaded and they are still doing it today.
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Cleo
According to Unicef and other NGO NPO's the death rate of children are lower then 1970 (last time until 1990 they had been recorded) and almost the same as 1990. The defect or birth defect rate is a little higher, but they say that the goverment has stopped training midwives and that is leading to many of the issues.
Your articles (both which are on rag sites) seem to create the numbers they use and maybe are a tad on the opinion side and not on the factual side. But thats why they are a website, so those who are seeking an answer they want so bad to read can find it, instead of finding a factual source.
http://www.unicef.org/
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Nippon5
Sezwho2..
So, unless you want to argue that Saddam was the aggressor....
Well I guess if you dont take into account he was the aggressor in the gulf war, which was what created the UN sanctions, and that he was also ignoring those sanctions, and that he was always trying to push the no fly zone, and the statements he had WMD and other statements of attacking Israel he made etc etc etc.(and on and on) then I can see where he wasnt the agressor.
I guess you can say he was the aggressor and started the sequence that ended in the invasion of Iraq if you take into account the whole picture of why the US was there in the first place.
So you are right about Saddam not being the aggressor in 2003( as in not invading another country), but if you go to the start of the US intervention in Iraq he was the aggressor at the time and created the enviroment that led to the 2003 invasion.
That doesnt mean I agree with the US going into Iraq, but if Saddam never attacked Kuwait then the US wouldnt have been in the region policing him before 2003, and most likely the 2003 invasion (and maybe even the world trade center bombing) wouldnt of happened.
Dont you love what if's and could of's.
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Nippon5
leitmotiv And the CIA killed Kennedy, We never landed on the Moon.. yada yada yada.. same crap different post. One ioda of proof for the US putting him in power? Maybe a factual source? Or just stay with the xfile style blame game. Self delusion is a funny thing to bring up when one creates history in their own head, creates situations that never happened in their post, kinda like you seem to be doing in your post above.
Since I was sitting in the region in the Military at the exact time of the US troops firing the first shot, I would have to disagree with your blog version of the war in 1991. We had been sent to the Gulf in August of 1990 and had been on stand by until the launch date of the 17th of January. At that time Iraq forces where in Kuwait, and wouldnt leave the area unless their demands of all resolutions in all countries of the region where meet(which was impossible, and just a delay tactic used by Iraq to gain more time to dig in). So you not only incorrect your just making it up as you go. If you like you can google the gulf war and you will find many many factual history write ups on it.
As far as the Uprising and the deaths from it, I guess that whole UN wouldnt allow the US to go into the Capital had nothing to do with the US not being able to help the people. I for one was willing to go the whole way,as was my whole command,But the stand down order came from the UN..If you dont think Im right ask USAFdude.
Smith your last post is correct. No country has an honest to god democracy in this world, and one will most likely never happen. Not the US not Canada and not IRAQ. But that shouldnt stop countries from trying it. Iraq needs to become what ever Iraq is to become, this will only happen when the US is out of the area. The Mission Accomplished is just a sound bite used against the war, the ship put that banner up, and as far as that phase of the operation it was accomplished. I dont think anyone truely thought the area would stablize instantly, just like no one really things Obama is going to change Washington, its just a sound bite used to argue a point.
As with any arguement people can find blogs or post from people in the region who support or do not support the US invasion of Iraq. We can also find people (who live in Iraq) who think it is worse now then before, and people (in the country) who think its better. Neither side is wrong as its an opinion and not hard facts. What if's and could of be's are just that, guessamations of what will be could of been or would be. In the end the only way we will know if the sacrafice is worth it is what happens to the nation after it has found its own place in history, be it good or bad.
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Nippon5
I still cant believe some on here are advocating more then shoes being thrown at the president. Consider for a moment that if the US hadnt gone to defend Kuwait in 1991 we wouldnt be in this stuation now(of course Saddam would have control of Kuwait and most people would be suffering a lot more in Iraq and Kuwait). Iraq wasnt stable with Saddam nor did any of the Normal people have freedom. Now they have Freedom, but it came with a price. In world War 1 and in world war 2 the US lost many men to help other countries so they wouldnt fall victim to Saddam like rule. We Americans have paid the price for so many other countries and very rarely are we thanked for the service we do. Bush going into Iraq to remove Saddam shouldnt of happened, it should of been the other countries of the world doing their part to control a cold bloodied leader. That doesnt mean we should praise idiotic thing that a anti Bush man did. Just like we shouldnt praise someone doing it to Obama, but when you say good for that guy he threw a shoe at Bush you open the door for it to be allowed to other leaders. Many Iraqies are glad the US got rid of Saddam in fact a majority of them are. They have an issue with the state of the country after the removal, and that is understandable. And point of view says it best.
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likeitis..
Too bad your logic is warped. Saddams crimes are in the past because the US invaded, not because he retired and went on vacation. Also considering the amount of civilians killed by the US forces is lower then the amount killed by Saddam's personal killing squards would make your point still not true. Again with the stable goverment, stable is a word used to describe a goverment that klilled its people to make itself stable, I didnt see you running from your democracy and safe little home to become an Iraqi under Saddam. SO yes its a two sided sword, the guy would of been dead if he did that to the former leader of Iraq, so he can throw his shoe and live because of the US invasion.
I dont like the fact the US was the country to go into Iraq, but I dont think people understand what they have gained in getting rid of Saddam. I dont support US troops any where in the world other then the US, but I also am not dumb enough to think if Saddam was still in power that Iraqis would be running around throwing flower on his feet, and living the good life.
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Nippon5
Just think if Bush hadnt went to war this idiot wouldnt be able to be on tv nor have the freedom to talk smack without being shot. Its a double edge sword. He caused problems by invading, but he also created a life of freedom none of them would of had otherwise. Kinda funny to see the guy use his new freedoms to express his hatrid of the man who gave him those freedoms. Ironic.
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Nippon5
if it wasnt for the negative aspect of the news would we even read it. The sky is falling the sky is falling, its becoming the song of all the news sites,hoping they will get the readers to argue points that dont matter. The only faliure in the world thats 100% confirmed is the news outlets. THey have failed to show even sides for the good and bad in the quest to get readers.
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Nippon5
its not a demonstration its a looting.
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United States: Ryan Anderson, life for trying to aid Al Qaeda while serving as a National Guardsman. David Belfield, assassinated a former Iranian diplomat outside Washington and fled to Iran. Clement Rodney Hampton-el, 35 years for helping bomb the World Trade Center in 1993. Mark Fidel Kools, death sentence for "fragging" and killing two of his army officers. John Muhammad, death sentence for his role as the lead "Beltway Sniper." Randall Royer, twenty years for weapons and explosives charges "stemming from the investigation into a militant jihadist network in Northern Virginia." Five members of Jamaat ul Fuqra, a Pakistan-based group suspected of at least thirteen murders in America, jailed for up to 69 years.
United States: Adam Gadahn, sought in connection with "possible terrorist threats" against the United States. Three of four members in the Jam'iyyat Ul-Islam Is-Saheeh, accused of planning a terror spree in the Los Angeles area, are converts. Jose Padilla, accused of planning to "make an improvised dirty bomb," or a radiological dispersion device. Three members of an alleged group, Rafiq Sabir, Tarik Shah, and Mahmud Faruq Brent, are accused of pledging an oath to Al-Qaeda. The list of unindicted co-conspirators in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing includes two American Islamist star converts, Siraj Wahhaj and Bilal Phillips, and what appears to a number of lesser ones (Jack Hamrick, John Kinard, Frank Ramos, Kelvin Smith, Richard Smith).
Thats just a list another put together of the American born converts to the muslim faith who have been into terrorist. My first guy wasnt a citizen he just lived in the US for years and years preaching.
Obama has to not only fix the image of us on them he needs to fix the image they have to us. Its a two way street and yes there have been American born Muslims to do terrorist things here and abroad.
Enough of an answer I hope??
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Nippon5
Good Jorb ..
I think you got it right.
Some defend Obama like he is the christ child, others blame him for all the worlds sins. The truth most likely is in the middle. He most likely is like all the other politicians tainted and not clean, but he is trying his hardest to keep it under the covers. They all do it and they all try to cover it. Those who say he is perfectly clean are just kidding them selves, and those who think he is so much worse then any of the others are just wishing.
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Nippon5
Thank you Smith. I think the root to this problem is we have an outside person (who has their own objectives) making the decision.
I'm not an Obama groupie, but I think he really is the best person to be making the decision of who should replace him.
I hate to see how many times this kind of "auction" for power has happened and we didnt hear about it. Actually makes me shiver thinking about how many people are in office because of money and not the peoples true desire.(I know most are in becasue they have money, I just shiver a lot I guess)
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And to answer adaydreams question here is one who was involved in the 1993 bombing. Omar Abdel-Rahman. He was a direct part in the bombing including the planning.
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Nippon5
The big three failing would effect the US in a very hard way. But if you consider the US big 3 have most of the production plants outside the US in Mexico and Canada then he might feel the sting of large amount of the home countries folks going without work. People always forget companies like GM (9th largest in the world) have intrest outside the US and have employees in all parts of the world. When a company of that size fails then everyone in the world will feel it.
I dont support a bailout without complete restructure of the companies, but I do understand the need to keep the boat floating..
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