Thursday February 16, 2012

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    Noliving

    I think your argument is based on the premise that if Noriko and Chris were to get a divorce in Japan, they would of actually used the court system in Japan when in fact over 90% of the divorce are settled without the courts.

    No its not based on the premise that they would use the court system at all, its the fact that there is no way even with a court system for him to get visitation rights when you consider the fact that the odds are against him that Noriko would have granted him visitation. The truth of the matter is that Japanese culture is not one that really believes in visitation/parenting by both parents after a divorce and he wanted visitation so in order to increase the odds of that happening he lured her to the US.

    No Chris lured Noriko under false pretenses, he made a settlement that he would give her around $700k to $800k plus primary custody along with child support if I'm not mistaken on that last part.

    And as Fishy and I been saying. There is no need for a court to work visitation rights out, etc. Just sit down at a table and discuss it like adults.

    Sadly most people can't and the problem of course is that in Japan as soon as the custody parent doesn't want the other parent to see the children their is nothing the other parent can do. Savoie knew that and that is why he wanted to divorce in the US as a way to try and increase his odds of visitation.

    It is when people insist I NEED to have 100% control over the kids

    Define 100%, because Savoie agreed to let Noriko be the primary custodian of the kids in the US

    And in this case it appears that Savoie was that person and not Noriko.

    Ah no its not only Savoie, that would also include Noriko in that she kidnapped the children to Japan, breaking a court order that she agreed to and lying to US authorities. Oh and by the way Noriko hasn't allowed any contact whatsoever by the kids to Savoie, so one could argue that right now Noriko is insisting on 100% control over the kids considering she is controlling their communication to Savoie.

    Look the entire situation is just f'd up but the point that I'm making is that Savoie should be allowed to see his kids, the crap that he pulled with Noriko does not mean he should not see his kids. Lets be honest here I think we all know that unless Noriko has a change of heart or once the kids reach the age of 18/20 make contact of their own(very unlikely though), that there is very high/real chance that he is never going to hear or see his kids again. Now a lot of people like cleo will make the case that he should have stayed in Japan instead of moving back to the US and tricking Noriko and marrying his mistress but what he did should not be used as a justification for why he can't be in contact with his kids.

    Because the truth of the matter is that even if he did stay in Japan, because of Japanese culture there is very real chance that he would not be in contact with his kids right now either if he was to stay in Japan.

    The real questions we need to be asking is how can we get Savoie to be in contact/allow visitation with his kids. All the other crap is irrelevant.

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    Noliving

    I think that Japan does very well for their citizens not signing any international agreement in cases like this otherwise everyday we'd see several cases like Sean Goldman's here, an innocent boy who had his life teared apart and people like David Goldman who got into a custody battle only to call the media's attention not caring for his son's feelings in any moment.

    You have got to be kidding me, you honestly believe that Sean's father doesn't care about his feelings?

    You believe that parents should have the right to just pick up and leave for no reason and prevent the other parent from ever seeing their child again, like in the case of David Goldman's wife?

    You talk about not caring for Sean's feelings, how about what his dead wifes family did to try and prevent David from ever seeing his son again. How about all the lies they told Sean about David or how about the fact that when they were forced to return Sean they brought him through the front gate in front of all the media when Sean and his lawyer repeatedly offered/told them to bring him through a separate entrance that wouldn't have the media at all present. You know how furious David was when they did that?

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    Noliving

    That's pure speculation.

    It is speculation I'm willing to bet on.

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    Noliving

    The best part too about California is that it has some of the strictest guns laws in the US.

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    Noliving

    The funny thing is that if the barbers were not armed they would probably be dead meaning that 2-3 people would have died instead of just this one mother.

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    Noliving

    Except that acquiring Japanese nationality requires the person to relinquish his former nationality. So either Savoie lied when he took out Japanese nationality, or he lied when he claimed to be still American on his return to the US. Either way he's a proven liar. The fact that others may pull the same scam doesn't change that.

    Yes but US law requires the presence of a diplomatic or consular officer from the US government when an american renounces US citizenship. It is a loop hole in Japanese law. So he may have lied to the Japanese government in order to get Japanese citizenship, I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of Americans that have Japanese citizenship have done the exact same thing.

    Fine he is a liar, it is irrelevant in this case.

    He knew no such thing.

    Fine he didn't know 100%, he just knew that Japanese culture along with the experience of thousands of other foreigners married to Japanese, that if he were to divorce that the odds would be against him that he would see his kids again. He even said that in courtroom to the judge.

    Why would Noriko drag the kids halfway across the world and dump herself without support in the back of rural America beyond if she had no intention of letting him see the kids?

    Because Savoie lied to her about working on the marriage, he wanted to divorce her but he needed to do it in the US in order to try and guarantee visitation rights, because the truth of the matter is that if he did divorce her in Japan the courts would not mandate visitation.

    So what am I getting at? That if Japanese law would have forced visitation rights, Savoie probably would have headed back to the USA to marry his mistress and live there while at the same time visiting his kids or his kids visiting him, he would not have bothered to lure Noriko and the kids to the US.

    If his main concern was the kids' welfare, and being able to see the kids, he could have opted to stay in Japan.

    But based upon Japanese culture and Japanese laws and the experience of thousands of foreigners married to Japanese people that the odds would be heavily against him that he would see his kids. He went to the US to try and make it so the odds would be in his favor that he could see his kids, you may call it "having your cake and eating it to" but keep in mind that he had to pay over $700k to Noriko to get that, if he did stay in Japan he wouldn't have had to pay the $700k nor would he had to pay any child support.

    just that he is an untrustworthy louse, as I've been saying all along.

    So what? That means nothing in terms of his parenting ability. So is Noriko, she lied to a US judge and broke a legally binding agreement. They are both untrustworthy.

    I also remember reading somewhere, though I can't find it now, that American law doesn't allow immigration for the sake of divorce, which means he must have lied to the Immigration authorities in order to get her settled in the country.

    Unless the authorities asked him if he was coming back to the US with his wife to divorce her, which I'm betting they didn't, he didn't lie to anyone except for Noriko and possibly the kids.

    Posted in: Savoie's suit against judge dismissed in child abduction

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    Noliving

    Look Cleo I don't like Savoie, I think he is a whole bunch of naughty words for what he did to Noriko but the fact remains though is that he divorced her in the US as a way to try and get visitation rights and just because of his adultery and manipulating Noriko to come to the US does not mean he should be barred from seeing his kids ever again, unless of course they reach out to him.

    Posted in: Savoie's suit against judge dismissed in child abduction

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    Noliving

    This was on paper a totally Japanese family. The American courts should have told them to go sort their problems out in Japan. As it was Savoie played the 'I'm an American' card and got the court to give him what he wanted regardless of the needs of any of the foreigners involved.

    But they didn't and Noriko agreed to the settlement.

    According to both Japanese and American law, on taking Japanese nationality Savoie was supposed to give up his American nationality. The fact that he used both as it suited him shows that he is untrustworthy.

    And he did according to Japanese law, he renounced his american citizenship in a Japanese court. Where does it say in American law that he has to renounce American citizenship? The American government does not recognize US citizens that renounce their citizenship if it is not in the presence of a diplomatic or consular officer. Not only that the US reserves the right to reject a US citizens renouncing of US citizenship. Basically he took advantage of a loop hole. A loop hole I'm willing to bet that most Americans that have Japanese citizenship have taken advantage of.

    The fact that he committed adultery shows that he is untrustworthy. The fact that he dragged Noriko and the children across the world to serve divorce papers on her shows that he is untrustworthy. And that's before we even start on the abduction

    I think it is fair to say based upon his own statements during the divorce preceding that the primary and only reason why he dragged her and children across the world to serve her divorce papers is because he knew that if he divorced in Japan he would never see his kids. Now he is in the wrong for luring her to the US but under the circumstances it is understandable why he would do it.

    Committing adultery does not mean they are an unfit parent, just that they are not a good spouse. It is only abduction in Japan, the US would not consider his actions to be abduction if he was to do what he did in the US.

    It is important to note that both sides are untrustworthy in this matter, him more so than Noriko. Keep in mind that she voluntarily entered into a binding legal agreement with Savoie that the Judge agreed to enforce and that is she could not move the kids back to Japan without consent from Savoie, she could take them to Japan on visits but not relocate them there without Savoie consent. Now you may not like that agreement or think it is unfair but it is an agreement she agreed to voluntarily.

    Posted in: Savoie's suit against judge dismissed in child abduction

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    Noliving

    His words will come to haunt the Obama Administration and the American people unless they understand what he said and heed them.

    Ok then, what does he mean by those words?

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    Noliving

    Well he can't now because he tried to abduct them (with some degree of physical force, it seems) and has shown himself to be untrustworthy.

    Depends on which country's law you are basing it off of. In the US after she moved the kids back to Japan, breaking a legally binding agreement that she agreed to obviously, the courts granted Savoie full custody, as a result he has the right to "abduct" his kids based off of a US ruling. However though in Japan they don't recognize US rulings, so in Japan it would be abduction.

    The judge who decreed that America was the children's 'habitual residence' ought to be struck off for incompetence.

    Why? The only reason why the judge decreed that was because Noriko came to an agreement/settlement with Savoie that the children's habitual residence would be in the US, she would be granted primary custody along with over half a million dollars. The judged looked at this settlement, decided it was a legal settlement and then asked both parties if they both agreed to the settlement, both Savoie and Noriko agreed to the terms of the settlement.

    Well cleo if your a judge and both parties have agreed to a settlement, would you not enforce/make binding that settlement?

    Posted in: Savoie's suit against judge dismissed in child abduction

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    Noliving

    Lets be honest here people, underage drinking in Japan is something Japanese really just don't care about.

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    Noliving

    I'd suggest a full blood screening, because that lack of a vomiting reflex is really strange and she might have been on other drugs (prescription or not).

    No its not strange at all, alcohol if you consume enough of it can actually stop/prevent the gag reflex. You have to remember that Alcohol is a depressant meaning its slows down brain activity, if you drink enough of it you can stop breathing.

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    Noliving

    Come on guys..it was just a freak accidents! The body usually causes you to vomit if you consume alcohol to dangerous levels. Unfortunately her body didn't do that!

    Although the term accident would apply based upon definition in my opinion this is not a freak accident if you purposely consume that amount of alcohol. And anyone that drinks alcohol and uses the body's vomiting as a way to determine when they should stop drinking is an fing DA.

    Posted in: 18-year-old female university student dies of alcohol poisoning

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    Noliving

    Shouldn't that headline read "Former Porn Star"??

    Is she a former porn star? I thought she was still active making porn.

    How do they know so much about her movies if they are not supposed to watch?

    They don't watch, the reason why they "know" so much about her movies is because someone told them she is a porn star.

    For example if I told you that Peter North's first porn movies were gay porn, you wouldn't have to watch the videos to know that fact you would just have to have someone tell you or have it written down somewhere.

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    Noliving

    I don't know why but out of all the photos and movies I have seen her in the photograph for this story just seems to be the most unrecognizable one of her. By that I mean it just doesn't look like her.

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    Noliving

    What national panic?

    Well the good news is that less than a fifth of those crimes you listed involve a firearm in the US

    Ok fine lets add the injuries, its around 100k are injured by firearms, that means less than 150k people are killed or injured by firearms in the US each year. You still have a 99% safety rate. The point I'm making is that guns are not as big of a threat as you are making them out to be. More people are killed by cars in the US each year than by guns, even though there are more guns then cars in the US. Of course the counter argument to that is that people need cars, you don't need guns, my counter to that is that people don't need private car ownership, just have the government provide the transportation which will result in less cars on the road which will result in less traffic accidents and deaths.

    Actually its a failure of logic to not go by per year, because if you wish to measure how much a threat something is to a society or a population you go by a per year basis, and you also use those per year basis to determine whether or not you are making progress on that threat.

    Good examples of this would be diseases, how many times have you read reports that talk about how many people this disease or that disease killed per year and then measure whether or not they are making progress by seeing if the previous year killed more people or less than the current year? Pretty much all the time.

    Another good example is the FBI and their crime statistics:

    How is that number 0.04 more realistic?

    The point of I'm making is that people are way over exaggerating the threat that firearms pose to the American society, considering the fact that over 500k people are killed each year by heart disease in the US.

    What is more of a threat now? Unhealthy foods and no exercise lifestyle or firearms, well if you go by statistics unhealthy food with no exercise is.

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    Noliving

    America experiences a civil war of violence every year and nobody bats an eye.

    That is because on a per capita basis it is incredibly low. There are 35k deaths caused by firearms, half of them are suicides, an additional to 2-3 k are killed by police officers you basically have around 10k-15k killed in anger, you then take that number and divide it by 64 million gun owners or if you want to do it on a per gun basis then you would divide it by 300 million.

    If we take the 35k people killed by firearms and divide it by 64 million you will get this: 0.000546875

    That number is not even a tenth of a tenth of one percent. That is how low the fatality rate is per gun owner. So with such a low fatality rate would you even bother? I mean the safety rate among gun owners is 99.999%

    Nearly 20 times more people die from heart attacks in the US.

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    Noliving

    American_bengoshi: Exactly! The kid probably stole dad's easily obtained hand guns or uzi and is holding the class hostage. A knife? I doubt people would bother and wait, depending on the size of the kid. Charlton Heston should be proud.

    I disagree you would be surprised at how intimidated people can be by someone just carrying a base ball bat.

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    Noliving

    Also, regarding the wikileaks, a senior Israeli government official said "We come out looking very good", according to an article in The Telegraph. So we know that something is definitely fishy with these wikileaks.

    No it doesn't mean that at all, it just means that wikileaks documents it has released has shown that the Iranian government is not well liked by middle eastern governments and that they are preoccupied by an Iranian threat more so than an Israeli one.

    Yeah, but funny how many of those conspiracies turn out to be true. But hey, if you chose to continue to believe the US government and their MSM despite their constant lies, go ahead.

    Which conspiracy theory that he believes has turned out to be true?

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    Noliving

    Taliban wearing cop uniforms. Time to get the outta there.

    And what are the consequences if we do get out?

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