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  OssanAmericaJan. 15, 2012 - 09:40AM JST

  SSCSforeverJan. 15, 2012 - 05:42AM JST "Now thats very dangerous and could potentially be fatal." No, it can't be fatal. The worst that would happen is that they can't unhook the rope and have to be towed back to >port. Icebergs are more dangerous.

  And please tell us how a ship, in Antarctic waters, potentially distant from any available help is suppose to avoid an iceberg when it's propellers have been tangled with rope and immobilized. From the viewpoint of the international maritime industry, as welkl as anyone with ay common sense, what SSCS are doing is putting people into dangerous and potentially life threatening situations.

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  OssanAmericaJan. 15, 2012 - 02:02AM JST

  gogogoJan. 14, 2012 - 02:52PM JST Whaling is legal. Throwing acid is not. You mean throwing old butter.

  It has the smell of rancid butter. And vomit for that matter, But it is NOT rotten butter.

  "So, is butyric acid harmful? A quick Google search found this information:

  Appearance: colourless liquid with the extremely unpleasant smell of rancid butter Stability: Flammable. Incompatible with strong oxidizing agents, aluminium and most other common metals, alkalies, reducing agents. Toxicology: Harmful if swallowed or inhaled. Corrosive. Extremely unpleasant smell may cause nausea. Liquid may burn skin and eyes. Readily absorbed through the skin. Severe skin, eye and respiratory irritant."

  That the SSCS knows that butyric acid is not harmless is evidenced by the fact that the eco-terrorists who throw them are always wearing protective eye wear. That their intent is physical harm is evidenced by the fact that the research whaling crew are not warned in advance and have no such eye protection.

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  OssanAmericaJan. 14, 2012 - 06:04AM JST

  How many years will Australian taxpayers be willing to pay for the silly antics of the anti-whaling "activists"?

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  OssanAmericaJan. 14, 2012 - 02:30AM JST

  SSCSforeverJan. 13, 2012 - 09:24PM JST

  Just to correct two points;

  It's funny how Japan didn't arrest or even question the SM2's captain in regards to the sinking of the Ady Gil,

  The JCG did indeed question he master of the SM2 and investigateafter her return to Japan as well as inspect the vessel. They found nothing suggesting any reason to issue an arrerst warrant for the captain. Same thing with the Australian AMSA and maritio e New Zealand investigations. That which is blaringly obvious to those involved in the maritime fields, such as a propwash proving the Ady Gils forward motion crossing the SM2's path, is not to those who are not familar. Nop omne ay street here, just common sense and law enforcement authorities doing ehat they are trained to do.

  but now they have an arrest warrant for obstruction of business? This also shows that their whaling operation is a commercial operation and NOT "research" like they say.

  You obviously do not speak or understand Japanese. "Obstruction of Business" does not mean business as in commerce. It means business as in an activity, duty, task, function". The Japanese word is "gyoumu". Please feel free to look it up.

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  OssanAmericaJan. 14, 2012 - 02:10AM JST

  derrallJan. 13, 2012 - 01:41PM JST when will japan learn to take these people back to japan and throw them in jail.

  If the charges were greater than simply trespass/unauthorized boarding, I'm sure they would have. Peter Bethune found out in 2010.

  if paul watson is so big on stopping the whaling why didnt he board the whaling ship......oh thats right the crazy >leader sends the pawns to do the dirty work and risk there lives to do a stunt like this

  Not just that. I believe there is still an arrest warrant out for Watson in Japan.

  Posted in: Aussie PM criticizes antiwhaling activists after Japan decides to free them

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  OssanAmericaJan. 13, 2012 - 11:45PM JST

  smithinjapanJan. 13, 2012 - 03:37PM JST OssanAmerica: "Wrong, as usual". Rubbish. Any definition you give -- be it 'eco-terrorist' from the US FBI website (and we all know how reliable the FBI >is... and unbiased!) or 'cultural imperialism' -- can be equally applied to the whalers. Firing a sonic weapon at a >helicopter in flight is not 'defense', nor is throwing stun grenades -- it terrorism by any definition you wish to put out >there to define one group but not the other.

  You still continue to be wrong smith. WHO is approaching WHO? I dare you to answer this. WHO is harassing WHO? Everything the whalers do is in defense against an eco-terroprist attack. And I do find your belief that you aremore qualified than the FBI to define eco-terrorism hilarious.

  And the whole cultural imperialism thing -- ha! Boy did you step in it there! Japan is not imposing its culture on >others by going far, FAR outside of Japanese waters under the guise of research,

  Yes, FAR into INTERNATIONAL WATERS where no country has legal jurisdiction. The Whalers are imposing heir cultutral beliefs on who? The whales? AS for thge "guise" of research, until the IWC Scientific Committee rejects rejects Japans submitted datas as false or invalid, it IS "research". A bunch of people against whaling crying that it;s not research doesn't make it invalid.

  WITH Japanese coast guard to 'defend' their crazed intentions?

  What part of any law enforcement officer detaining and arresting a perpetrator within his/her jurisdictional authory is "crazed" to you? JCG have been onboard thge JMSDF vessels taking part in the coalition naval action against the Somali pirates for years for the very same arrrest authority.

  And what does Japan always fall back on when >they struggle to talk about how it's actually 'science'? "You are >hurting out cultural traditions!", forgetting of course that they pretend they're doing it for science.

  Japan doesnb't have to fall back on anything. The IWC Scientific committee's position is suifficient.

  It's quite humorous to hear such pathetic defense of what they're doing, really, and even funnier when you point out >the contradictions and watch their heads implode.

  Yes, imploding heads.. Very intelligent comment.

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  OssanAmericaJan. 13, 2012 - 11:34PM JST

  You are correct jonobugs. Except that Watson's plan failed miserably because the SM2 which the three clowns boarded did not go to an Australkian port as they demanded. The ACV Protector came out to get them. Meantime, surveillance of the Steve Irwin was taken over by another ship the YM2 so there was no interuption at all. Meantime, the Australian government and many Australians have now spoken out against this action as "stupid", "illegal" "piracy" etc. and public anger about wasting Australian taxpapers money on these "activists". Watsion himself added fuel to this by publically criticizing the Australian government for a situatioin which he himself caused.

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  OssanAmericaJan. 13, 2012 - 10:46AM JST

  tkoind2Jan. 13, 2012 - 09:40AM JST ".....attempts at cultural imperialism."

  Further the "culture" argument does not hold water anyway. Cultures evolve and rituals replace no longer tenable actions. It is time for Japan to join the 21st century and do what they already do for thousands of other cultural activities, celebrate and respect them while doing no harm.

  Cultural Imperialism means imposing one's own cultural beliefs and standards on others. That is exactly what the anti-whaling nations are doing. In contrast, the nations that whale and eat whales not not encourage any other countries to engage in whaling or eat whales. Your declaration of what "Japan must do" is irrefutable evidence that anti-whalers are excercising cultural imperialisam.

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  OssanAmericaJan. 13, 2012 - 10:39AM JST

  smithinjapanJan. 13, 2012 - 09:19AM JST “The Institute of Cetacean Research strongly condemns the Sea Shepherd and its continued dangerous and violent actions against Japanese vessels and crews in the Antarctic,” Not as dangerous as throwing stun grenades and firing sonic weapons at helicopters! Not to mention the water >canons. If anyone is violent here, it's the whalers.

  Nope you're completely wrong as usual. The Reseach Whalers aren't chasing after the Sea Sheperd ships and harassing them. Everything they do is to defend themselves from the attackers.

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  OssanAmericaJan. 13, 2012 - 10:34AM JST

  cleoJan. 13, 2012 - 08:10AM JST No mention of the JCG throwing stun grenades? http://www.majiroxnews.com/2012/01/12/japanese-whalers-hurl-stun-grenades-at-sea-shepherd/

  No news there cleo. They have thrown flash grenades every season, along with the water canons to try and keep the eco-terrorists away since they don't heed the verbal warning to move away.

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  OssanAmericaJan. 13, 2012 - 02:41AM JST

  cleoJan. 12, 2012 - 11:20PM JST The JCG are using stun grenades. http://www.majiroxnews.com/2012/01/12/japanese-whalers-hurl-stun-grenades-at-sea-shepherd/

  Yes cleo, they are, And they have in past seasons as well. As your article states they are used to keep the SSCSI boats away because they ignore the verbal warnings to back off. Purely defensive.

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  OssanAmericaJan. 13, 2012 - 02:20AM JST

  tkoind2Jan. 11, 2012 - 01:11PM JST OssanAmerican. Just because the right wing thinking of the US dreams up new words including "terrorist" does not >in reality make people terrorists. If we conform to recent US definitions under the strident guise of the Patriot Act we >can define nearly anyone as a terrorist. Maybe we will soon have Japan Times Blog terrorists. Or Facebook >Terrorists. You can start to see how easily we can dream up new terms.

  I repeat again, the term "terrorist" is not the same as "eco-terrorist".

  Now the term from the 80's clearly defined eco-terrorists as people who carried out acts intended to harm people >physically. I see no strong intent or evidence to suggest that SSCS intends to actually harm anyone. Stop them yes, >delay them yes, obstruct them, yes. But harm? No.

  You are in denial. Fouling a ships pro with ropes in Antarctic waters is an act which can easily harm people. Throwing bottles of Butryic Acid can and has harmed people. Pointing lasers at peoples eyes can harm people. Rammig a ship can harm people. Sibking a ship can harm people. Do people habe to actually incur serious injury or die before you recognize that these are acts that can harm people?

  Nothing employed so far exceeds the kind of actions we have seen from groups like Greenpeace in the past, and >they are hardly a terrorist organization.

  Like I said, you need someone to needlessly die before you accept reality.

  Let me ask you this, why do you so stridently support Japan's illegal whaling activities? Or is it that you just don't like >activists of any kind?

  Japan's research Whaling isn't illegal. It would be illegal if (1) the IWC didn't authorize it under Article VIII, and/or (2) Australia had jurisdictional rights (ie; Australian law applied) in the Antarctic waters where the research whaling takes place. Since neither of these two requiremrents are met, Japan's research whaling is LEGAL. Since it is obvious to anyone with half a brain that it is legal, and sanctioned by the IWC, I have no reason to oppose it. As for liking or disliking activists, I have no problem with real conservationist groups like Greenpeace and WWF. Nor do I have any objection to peaceful lawful protest and have no problem with Australia trying to resolve the issue through civilized means by taking the matter to the ICJ. I have a strong dislike for ECO-TERRORISTS like Sea Shepherd who flaunt law and order, disregard common sense, and violate every interbnationally accepted maritime law pertaining to safety of life at sea. I have a partiucular dislike for Paul Watson who has manupulated Australian territorial nationalism and racism to his advantage to conduct what mainers call piracy with a free hand. Hope this answers your question.

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  OssanAmericaJan. 12, 2012 - 10:59PM JST

  There wouldn't be a joke of a countrry like North Koreaif the USSR hadn't created it The whole Korean Penninsula would have been as economically prosperous as South Korea.

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  OssanAmericaJan. 11, 2012 - 12:57PM JST

  CletusJan. 11, 2012 - 10:37AM JST Oh Ossan so many things wrong with your post here l dont know where to start.

  The please don't.

  ou are very wrong. THe only reason that Australia has not sent AMSA vessels (no, they don't send frigates, please >et a clue)

  eally, l seem to remember Australia sending a frigate to this area to rescue a yachtsman a few years back. We also >end our naval vessels to stop illegal boats in northern WA all the time. So please maybe you should take your own >dvice.

  Tell me when's the last time Australia sent a frigate to stop the Japanese research whaling that is taking place in international waters. Military vessels are used for rescue due to proximity or necessity but have no role in maritime law enforcement. Illegal immigrants are often in need of rescue operations because of the frequent unseaworthiness of the boats used.

  ustralia politicians are not weak-kneed, they are sensible and educated. unlike the SS supporters, and know that >he Antarctic Treaty forbids them from taking action that could be interpreted as excercising juriosdiction. wo's talking about the Antarctic treaty we are refering to JCG vessels within eyesight of the mainland of Australia. So >es they are very weak kneed. They can stop illegal Indonesian boats, they can stop boat people but they refuse to >ake action against the Japanese. Laughable

  There are no JCG vessel in Australian waters, in Australian EEZ waters or even in nternatiomnal waters near Australia. All of the research vessels are owned by Kyodo Senpaku, a commnercial fisheries company. Foreign vessels that do not conduct any operations in an EEZ have the right of free passage, a point the Australian government was quick to recognize.

  es they do have right of passage. But it also states that they cannot use this right as described by innocent passage >f it is " prejudicial to the peace, good order or security of the coastal State". Now a foreign government vessel >talking out a port with the purpose of harassing a vessel does indeed prejudice the peace and security of the state >ne could argue.

  The Australian government saw no threat to the peace, good order or security of the coatal state. The SM2 has never "harassed: any vessel. Even SSCS themselves have only reported being followed. Harassment is the MO of the SSCS eco-terrorists. The Australian government was quick to recognizae that the SM2 had the right of free passage. You got a problem withthat suggest you take it up with them.

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  OssanAmericaJan. 11, 2012 - 12:36PM JST

  tkoind2Jan. 11, 2012 - 09:50AM JST Allow me to educate you about the word "eco-terrorist

  tkoind, allow ME to educate you. The terms "terrorist" and "eco-terrorist" are not the same. Furthermore they are both terms used in law enforcement and have specific legal meanings bearing pertinenace on criminal charges that can brought against an individual or group. These are not terms subject to your long winded personal interpretations or definitions.

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  OssanAmericaJan. 11, 2012 - 12:28PM JST

  tkoind2Jan. 11, 2012 - 09:27AM JST OssanAmerican. How does 9/11 and Sea Shepherd have anything to do with each other beyond unfounded >hystrionics?

  Ask the original poster that question.

  madmelJan. 10, 2012 - 10:46AM JST NO! They are not terrorists...law breakers and trespassers yes. Anyone who says so has NEVER been a victim of >terrorism and minimizes people and who have been making the parallel comparison.

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  OssanAmericaJan. 11, 2012 - 08:22AM JST

  madmelJan. 10, 2012 - 10:46AM JST NO! They are not terrorists...law breakers and trespassers yes. Anyone who says so has NEVER been a victim of >terrorism and minimizes people and who have been making the parallel comparison.

  Nice try madmel.As one who was in lower Manhattan on Sep 11th 2001 I can tell you unequivocably that Sea Shepherd are eco-terrorsts.

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  OssanAmericaJan. 11, 2012 - 07:34AM JST

  telly2Jan. 10, 2012 - 11:17PM JST To "Illsayit"...the only reason Australia has not sent frigates into these areas to police the activities of Japanese >whalers and the protesters is because our weak-kneed politicians are scared of the economic repercussions. The >average Aussie would have love to have seen Japanese security vessels who breached our waters, seized and >then escorted back to international waters, warned about ever coming down this way ever again!

  You are very wrong. THe only reason that Australia has not sent AMSA vessels (no, they don't send frigates, please get a clue) is because Australia has ZERO jurisdictuion over the waters where the rersearch whaling is conducted. Australia politicians are not weak-kneed, they are sensible and educated. unlike the SS supporters, and know that the Antarctic Treaty forbids them from taking action that could be interpreted as excercising juriosdiction. Foreign vessels that do not conduct any operations in an EEZ have the right of free passage, a point the Australian government was quick to recognize. Your post is an exampole of how Watson, a known liar and showman has hoodwinked the Australian population and is feeding off of natonalism and racism to support his criminal eco-terrorist activities and cash flow from the Discovery Channel.

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  OssanAmericaJan. 11, 2012 - 07:25AM JST

  DJboothJan. 11, 2012 - 02:02AM JST Great to see here, Heda, Ossan & others jumping up & down the second a Chinese fishing boat has entered >Jteritorial waters, yet when a Jwhalimg/fishing waters enter. Aus territorial waters it is fine

  Was the SM2 whaling in Austraklian waters? No. Was it even whaling at all? No. Did it ram an Aunstralian Maritime Safety Agency vessel? No. Did it run from one? No. So what's he point of your comparison?

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  OssanAmericaJan. 11, 2012 - 12:27AM JST

  SSCSforeverJan. 09, 2012 - 03:51PM JST @OssanAmerica The FBI defines eco-terrorism as the use or threatened use of violence of a criminal nature against innocent victims >or property by an environmentally-oriented, subnational group for environmental-political reasons, or aimed at an >audience beyond the target, often of a symbolic nature." "Haha. The whalers are definitely not innocent."

  Really? What people are the Whalers threatening, harassing or harming?

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