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    Spidapig24

    Davidattokyo,

    Who cares what the iwc consensus was! Seriously, how many times has the iwc through resolutions told Japan to stop their whaling? And when this is mentioned your response David is RESOLUTIONS ARE NON BINDING you say it time and again. Now you want Australia to adhere to what you yourself call a non binding request

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    davidattokyo

    An Aussie polly makes a wild claim and the JT anti-whaling frat goes wild, once again.

    Ah David welcome back, whaling on the agenda and David regales us with insults as usual....

    Whereas what Australia was requested by the IWC is noted here: http://www.iwcoffice.org/meetings/resolutions/Resolution2011-2.pdf

    But David as you have pointed out many times IWC resolutions are non binding and are just requests. Isnt that what you say when people mention the resolutions the IWC have passed calling on Japan the refrain from whaling? Now you want it both ways you want Japan to ignore the ones it doesnt like but you want Australia to abide by them....

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    Spidapig24

    Its amusing after all this time posters like arrestpaul, davidatokyo to name a few have been saying that its not Australia's water, and not Australia's issue here are the whalers and Japanese government asking Australia to support them in doing something Australia doesnt want them doing and is taking them to court over. Ah Japan the laughing stock of the world AGAIN.

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    genji17

    Australia is by no means to required to assist the Japanese and I respect that, just as I respect them not giving visas to the SS captain.

    See thats where you are wrong Genji, Australia IS required to assist them in an emergency because Japan is conducting its hunt in waters that are Australia's responsibility for search and rescue. That is the whole point Australia who is responsible to rescue these whalers if something happens has said time and again it doesnt want them there in the first place but Japan ignores that and persists in going.

    Also, no kidding, there are no citizens of Antarctica...my point was just cuz your country is close, doesnt mean its their waters...though I am pretty worried for Aussies if they are going to attack Japanese tourists just because some people are legally claiming whales.

    See my point is this, Australia, New Zealand, Chile, South Africa are the countries who border this ocean where the Japanese are whaling. They are the closest nations to this region, its their backyard and yet you and your pro Japan pro whaling crowd say that these nations have no say in what Japan who's nearest coast is on the opposite end of the earth does there. It would be like Australia fishing around Japan in international waters and ignoring Japans requests to stop then expecting Japan to come to their aid if something goes wrong.

    Bluewitch, I dont recommned harvest animals to the point of extinction, that is irresponsible...but these whales are not endangered and a limit in place to keep it that way.

    Ah like Japan has maintained the whale stocks around your own islands, thats working really well isnt it?

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    kudos

    International maritime law requires all ships, including military ones, to answer distress calls. It's only natural Australia should "oblige". This isn't some privilege the Australian government is handing to the whaling fleet.

    I actually agree, what l am saying is that the Japanese have been requested by the nation who is responsible for sea safety in that area to not go there. Pure and simple. Its the same as if China decided to mine, or fish or do an activity off the coast of Japan and Japan said we dont want you to. Even though Japan must assist them if they get into trouble and the other country still did it, do you think that would cause bad feelings? Or doesnt that matter as its Japan and Japan feels they can do as Japan see's fit because that is what it looks like.

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    genji17

    Its not kidnapping, its placing them under arrest. At see the whaling ships fly under the Japanese flag and are expected to adhere to the laws of their land, as are the terrorists the SS.

    Ah so now you are trying to impose Japanese law 10000 km away from Japan in an ocean that borders other countries where you fleet has been told it is not welcome by those countries. So how did that imperialism work out for you last time genji?

    So once those SS fools commit assualt, they will be kindly arrested by the Japanese Coast Guard. That is my hope spidapig. Then the fishermen will be allowed to continue to whale under the LOOPHOLE that makes it LEGAL for them to do so. They dont have to listen to you or anyone else as long as it is legal (which, sorry to say, it is).

    Well that can be your hope. My hope is for a massive breakdown on your ships or failing that maybe sending one or two to the bottom of the sea. But we cant all get our wishes now can we. Certainly wouldnt like to be a Japanese visiting Australia if this does turn nasty, might be an uncomfortable holiday ;-)

    Just cuz you are near it doesnt mean its yours. The citizens of Antarctica are not complaining...theyre closer

    Um there are no citizens of Antarctica thats probably why they arnt complaining... Sheez some people if this is the intellectual calibre of the pro whaling group the world is in deep trouble

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    kudos

    Someone mentioned the area as "Australia's internationally recognized search and rescue area". Since when does search and rescue operations equal legal authority and jurisdiction over said area? This is what the UN and organizations such as the IWC is for.

    I actually didnt say that the search and rescue area made it a legal authority. What l was refering to is Australia doesnt want this whaling to take place yet Japan ignores that and does it in an area that if anything goes wrong Australia is obliged to go to their rescue. To rescue people conducting activities that Australia has asked them not to conduct.

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    genji17

    Hypocritical DB...they dont want peace, peace doesnt get headlines. Hopefully first bout of assaults by the SS results in the Japanese coast guard rounding up all these terrorists and locking them up while the fishermen make their quotes.

    Yeah lock them up, so now you are advocating kidnapping people. Wow great idea.... How about the Japanese turn their whaling fleet around and head back to their own country and actually listen for once to the opinion of others who actually live around the area that they want to conduct their slaughter. This isnt just Australia this is all nations in the region that dont want the Japanese so why would these nations then help the Japanese do something that they dont want them to do. Lets hope the Japanese are lucky to spot one whale. And lets hope SS run them all the way out of the Southern ocean and all the way back to where they belong.

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    Arrestpaul,

    It's also Japan's choice to go there. So it's equally on their shoulders to.

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    Dotobock

    Japan is not forcing anything on other people.

    Yeah really, so the Japanese dont tell Australia what to do in regards to SS. Japanese posters here dont tell people that its non of their business when whaling comes up. Yet you are doing it at the opposite end of the earth no where near Japan.

    Japan is not in Australian waters. Check your facts.

    So the Japanese are not whaling in waters claimed by Australia, not whaling in a declared IWC & Australian sanctuary, not whaling in Australia's internationally recognised search and rescue area? So if anything happens to the whalers its Australia's obligation to rescue them. Why is that? because they are undertaking their slaughter closer to Australia than to Japan. They are in our region not Japans and as the people who live in this region we say turn your ships around and get back to your own country pure and simple that isnt that hard to understand is it?

    How can Australians be so hell bent on stopping other people´s activities when the whale that it is being hunted is not endangered and when the hunt is sustainable?

    You say Australia, you forget its not just Australia. It also the other nations who border the region that are against Japans actions you know the people that actually live in the region, they are telling the Japanese who dont live in that region that they dont want them there. Why can you not understand that.

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    YuriOtani

    Come on China, we are waiting for you. Attack Japan and we will put all of the attacking Chinese fleet on the bottom. Their air force would be at the limits of its range, it will be a turkey shoot.

    Hey Yuri are you really that confident, you expect your 370 fighters (minus the dozen lost in the tsunami) to stand any chance against the 900 + chinese fighters and 400+ chinese attack aircraft and bombers. Especially when 100 of your planes are 1960's era F-4's and 150 of them are F-15 who have bits fall off them mid flight are repeated grounded and just crash when they feel like it. Yeah good luck with your wishes l for one wont be in Japan when the you know what hits the fan. But l guess you can scream for help from the US, oh thats right you want their bases closed oops where are they going to fly from? AH KARMA....

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    Dotobock

    Ethical standards are culturally defined. They must not be imposed upon other cultures. If any such attempts are made through political or economic pressure, this fulfils all the criteria for the concepts of "cultural chauvinism" or " cultural imperialism".

    Exactly right and this is EXACTLY what Japan is doing by ignoring the requests of people who live in the region that you are conducting your activities. Yes these are international waters, yes Japan is exploiting a legal loophole but morally what Japan is doing is ignoring the wishes of the people of many countries who live in this region. How would you as a Japanese feel if Japan declared a whale sanctuary off the coast of Japan (outside your eez) and another country came and whaled there. Would you sit ideally by, would you be offended. And the best bit is because of the location of the grounds Japan is legally required to assist in any emergencies. Because this is exactly what Japan is doing to Australia and New Zealand. And all the while thumbing its nose at their wishes and you wonder why their is hostility towards you Japanese, you want hostility try reading the comments in the Australian media where they are not censured by a pro Japanese moderator then you sense the full anger.

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    spudmanreincarnated

    Seems like this is going to further isolate the Japanese from Japanese and Internationals http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/6101267/Japan-uses-disaster-funds-for-whaling

    This is a sad reflection on the state of Japan, even sadder is a poster yesterday demanding that Australia give up its court case and give the money allocated to that to the people of Tohoku when the Japanese government is spending tens of millions to support this activity. Money that could be better spent and served assisting the Japanese people that are truly in need.

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    Cricky

    Cheers Spidapig, don't always agree with you but that's life, thanks for clarifying what I was trying to convey...mate

    No probs, dont always have to agree. It would be a boring world if we always agreed.

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    davidattokyo

    "Um no not really its just semantics." Then that's equivalent to admitting that the "moratorium" is illegal.

    Nope not at all, its only illegal in the eyes of those that disagree because it impacts on its business and that would be the ICR and JWA and its JT mouthpiece David.

    "What evidence David, you say this JWA mantra time and again but fail to produce a shred of proof to back it up other than statements from JWA and ICR." IWC Scientific Committee reports are not "statements from JWA and ICR". You can ignore IWC Scientific Committee reports, but doing so does not validate your position.

    Hmm, funny so now you want to use the IWC to validate your position but when the IWC's requests for Japan to cease whaling are mentioned you discredit the IWC. I guess when it suits you use the IWC and when it doesnt you ignore it.

    "Most countries US, UK, Aust, SA, NZ, Chile, the list goes on all agree Japans whaling is commercial whaling in disguise. Are you saying ALL these countries are wrong and Japan is right?" Yes.

    Of course you do. Enough said all hail Imperial Japan and its superiority....

    Wrong and right is not determined by anti-whaling nations. I respect the law - I will respect the ICJ judgment - will you?

    Nope! not when Japan has been getting its pro whaling judges appointed ahead of the case. Or did you think that one would slip through the cracks hey!

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    Cricky

    My point was the Coast Guard, in Antartica operating in a fishery exclusion zone also carry the latest non lethal and lethal (Whale wise) equipment. I will get back soon with it's name!

    Its called LRAD.

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    davidattokyo

    The difference between a ban and a temporary zero-catch limit is significant.

    Um no not really its just semantics. A ban on commercial whaling means no whales can be caught, a zero catch limit means no whales can be caught. They are the same thing, as you can have a temporary ban, or a temporary zero catch limit.

    The reason the anti-whaling forces had to use a ostensibly temporary zero-catch limit measure was because if they had called it a ban would be overtly illegal, as it would obviously contravene the whaling convention's purpose.

    Please you go back to this and repeat it over and over and over and over and over every time this argument comes up. It really is getting tiring.

    Ironically the same people who imposed a ban in the guise of "temporary zero-catch limits" are the same people who accuse Japan of conducting commercial whaling in the guise of scientific research, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

    What evidence David, you say this JWA mantra time and again but fail to produce a shred of proof to back it up other than statements from JWA and ICR. Most countries US, UK, Aust, SA, NZ, Chile, the list goes on all agree Japans whaling is commercial whaling in disguise. Are you saying ALL these countries are wrong and Japan is right?

    But it would be naive to expect the malcontents of the anti-whaling movement to respect international agreements and the law. See Sea Shepherd for another example.

    Ah so l see you are already playing the abusive card here, didnt take you long. Maybe l should do your trick and highlight it to the mods for removal of your post....

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    JesusAndPeter

    Luckily these crimes are very rare in Japan. That's why even minor crimes like this make the national news. I think our culture can take a lot of credit for keeping the violent crime rate as low as it is.

    HUH, you say slashing strangers on the street (kids at that) is a minor crime. Wow seriously you have some issues there. Im tipping the kids that where slashed and their families might differ in your theory on them being minor crimes. Oh and your statement that these crimes are rare, maybe you should go and count the number of these knife attacks that have happened in your superior culture in the past month.

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    Smithinjapan

    What's odd is that Japan thinks its coast extends to the Antarctic Ocean. Odd, or just plain moronic -- take your pick.

    Didn't you know that the Japanese own all the oceans, at least this time they are imposing their will on other nations peacefully and not at bayonet point like last time but the Amis the same the mighty Japanese do as they please and damn anyone who disagrees

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    davidattokyo

    It's odd that the anti-whalers claim that Japan doesn't listen, when it's Australia that's gone off crying to the ICJ despite knowing full well that biological data from Japan's research programmes is being utilised in ongoing research conducted by the IWC's own scientific committee.

    Way to twist the facts Davie, people say Japan doesnt listen because Japan is whaling in other countries region and these countries in the region (all of them) have asked Japan to stop and Japan has ignored that. So yes Japan doesnt listen. Maybe we should start fishing in Japans region and ignore them when they ask us to stop give them a taste of their own medicine.

    Australia should immediately drop their ridiculous ICJ action and donate the funds allocated for that to the reconstruction of Tohoku,

    David as an Australian taxpayer l support the ICJ action. And furthermore l say bugger the reconstruction of Tohoku, why should l as an Australian taxpayer support these people when the Japanese government cant be bothered supporting them. After all how many tens of millions of dollars are they wasting supporting this whaling and you want Australia to help the Japanese people when their own government wont. NO WAY BUDDY l would sooner donate my money to SS than to Tohuko.

    as well as banning eco-terrorists from using Australian ports, which would spare Japan from the need to deploy defenses to protect their innocent citizens from conducting their legal activities.

    More likely they should ban the whalers from using Australian ports. Maybe say the unions could put work bans in place, people could accidently block the passage of these vessels into Australian ports etc. Just thinking out loud there

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