Wednesday February 15, 2012

SuperLib's past comments

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    SuperLib

    hakuman: Transporting information can be done in much the same way. Data is added to a file, usually an innocuous one. If anybody opens the file, they see the contents of the file, not the data that has been embedded the actual data structure of the file itself.

    I actually understand all of that. What I don't get is that you can only see that information if you have the file in your hands. If the AP has the presentation in their hands, which they would need in order to see the tags, they obviously aren't releasing details about the presentation or referencing it in any specific way in the article. It seems that if they had details about the organization given by someone high up (as referenced by tags) then they would just publish that and let everyone see everything about what the organization is about from the people actually running it. But they didn't.

    And the tags on something like a PowerPoint presentation would should things like creation date, who created it, and last access, but in reality it's not a complete history of the document, and I've never seen it being used as actual proof of anything.

    Posted in: NYPD monitored where Muslims ate, shopped, prayed

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    SuperLib

    Getting closer to 9/11.....time for foreign media outlets to play up the US security angle again.

    Posted in: U.S. security intensifying as 9/11 anniversary nears

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    SuperLib

    During a fight, if one man threw sand in the other's eyes, would you say it was brave? If two men fight and one starts walking away, and the other whips out a knife and stabs him in the back, would you say he was brave? A land mine ban was made for a reason. Use of poison gas was banned for a reason. Agent orange is banned for a reason. And part of the reason is that its downright cowardly to use those things. Bombing from the air has been banned in the past for this very reason.

    Mind you, I would not mind use of this tech in a purely defensive confllict. But this is not it. Armor is defensive. I have no problem with armor. I also don't have a problem with technological advantage. I have a great big problem with risk free combat where the other side takes all the risk. I would love to see a rock 'em sock 'em robot war though, where nobody takes any risk. But when you can kill by remote control, it takes all the responsibility out of it. Frankly, if you don't believe enough in a war YOU created to risk your life on that war, you should not be starting that war.

    This method of combat is so cowardly, it is going to bring us more terrorism in the future. Yet, the fight was to prevent terror, or so we are told.

    Just odd.

    Posted in: NYPD monitored where Muslims ate, shopped, prayed

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    SuperLib

    Here's my guess at what the real situation is. The squad has 16 people. It said they speak at least 5 languages. My guess is that they aren't sending Italian-Americans to Pakistani neighborhoods to "chat up" local business owners. And the white, Irish-American cop probably isn't being sent to clubs to "eavesdrop" on local Muslims after he plays a game of cricket with them. What you probably have are mostly Arab/Muslim cops from the local community being told to report suspicious information to a centralized place. They are the ones going to the clubs, coffee shops, and seeing mosque information boards.

    The AP probably has some good research on it, but in the end it probably isn't all that sexy or alarming. So they decided to take the information, drop bits and pieces here and there, withhold other parts, then let your imaginations run wild. They know people will fill in the blanks with "Gestapo" comments.

    One example (out of about a dozen in the article): "The AP independently authenticated the NYPD presentation through an interview with an official who sat through it and by reviewing electronic data embedded in the file. A former official who had not seen the presentation said the content of the presentation was correct."

    I don't understand how they can say there was a presentation that someone sat through and not just give us the exact details of the presentation from beginning to end. Either they know the information and it's not that sexy so they say nothing, or there was no presentation. Probably the former. Then they bring up some kind of "electronic data embedded in the file" but I can guarantee that not a single person here can tell me exactly what that means. If I'm wrong, please speak up and let us all know what that collection of buzzwords amounts to. And finally they tell us that someone else who was not there verified that it happened. It's almost as if the writer needed to add more sentences to the paragraph without actually telling us specifics about the presentation so he just made some stuff up. I used to do that in high school sometimes on my papers when I needed a few extra filler sentences.

    The beginning of the article says the AP has documents detailing the work by the department. Great. Then give us the information. It seems that everything they were able to verify were from "former officials" who don't seem to have any problem saying there is a department but never seem to get around to giving any specifics about it. It makes you wonder what "documents" the AP really has since they obviously don't reference them in any way other than the opening of the article.

    Posted in: NYPD monitored where Muslims ate, shopped, prayed

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    SuperLib

    Wow, I don't think I've read an article this poorly written in quite some time.

    Posted in: NYPD monitored where Muslims ate, shopped, prayed

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    SuperLib

    Oracle: The problem is not a few lies and secrets here and there. The problem is abusing the priviledge. There is no way you can convince me that the mountains of files marked secret are all legit in a representative democracy.

    So let's open them all up so we can take a look. All of them, because we all know that all of them can't always be legit. No more classified documents anymore. How does that sound?

    Posted in: WikiLeaks site crashes in apparent cyberattack

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    SuperLib

    Oracle: Find a mirror. If you see a tin foil hat, it was me and Jimmy Hoffa, definitely. If no tin foil hat, rest assured, if I had that sort of power, I would not be posting here. I would pay someone else to post in my stead.

    But that's *exactly *what you'd be expected to say. Machinations and plans....

    Posted in: WikiLeaks site crashes in apparent cyberattack

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    SuperLib

    Oracle: Or is it not the result of actions but rather the result of machinations and plans?

    How do I know you or forces you support are not involved?

    Posted in: WikiLeaks site crashes in apparent cyberattack

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    SuperLib

    Sorry, it's hard to tell what's happening now. Wikileaks is releasing unvettted documents and their site is being hacked and the relationship they had with some media outlets who were helping them sanitize the documents is falling apart? So are the unsanitized documents being released a result of Wikileaks' actions or the actions of the news organizations who were working with Wikileaks?

    Posted in: WikiLeaks site crashes in apparent cyberattack

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    SuperLib

    smithinjapan: You, once again, have clearly missed the entire point.

    I think you tend to target radicals who use hyperbole because it makes yours sound less intense, but you're really in the same boat as they are. Obviously it's not right to target one group for different treatment because then you are hurting the innocent ones. But on the other hand it's just absurd to mention a handful of non-Muslim terrorists over the past 20 years and pretend that everything is equal. You're trying to be so politically correct that you've intentionally become blind to something as basic as raw data.

    And once again I'll remind you of how you consistently try to define all members of the US military based off of the worst stories you can find in the media without hesitation.

    Posted in: 52% of U.S. Muslims feel targeted by terror policies

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    SuperLib

    I don't really see how people think Muslims as a whole can "speak out" against terrorism unless they have some kind of rallies or something...? I'm not sure what people are expecting from them.

    On the other hand, this is a bit surprising:

    Regarding possible terror risks, about 21% of Muslim-Americans say there is “a great deal” or “a fair amount” of support for extremism in their communities, according to the Pew survey. About 81% of Muslim-Americans separately say suicide bombings and other forms of violence against civilians are never justified in order to defend Islam, and growing numbers also express an unfavorable view of al-Qaida—81% compared to 68% in 2007.

    I pretty much assume that about 10% of the people in any survey are probably insane, so seeing a 20% number above concerns me. I thought it would be lower than that.

    Posted in: 52% of U.S. Muslims feel targeted by terror policies

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    SuperLib

    "most Muslim-Americans say they are satisfied with the way things are going in the U.S. and rate their communities highly as places to live"

    Why not use that as the headline? Oh, I see....

    Posted in: 52% of U.S. Muslims feel targeted by terror policies

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    SuperLib

    The drone attacks, like the ones in this article, are taking place in Pakistan. I'm guessing your reference to soldiers is talking more about Afghanistan.

    Posted in: Al-Qaida No. 2 killed in Pakistan: U.S.

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    SuperLib

    SpidaPig24....what....you don't like me blaming the Russians? I actually kind of like the idea. I just used your logic and went back one step. I don't see why you'd have a problem with it. No invasion, no resistance, no OBL, etc. Thanks for that.

    Posted in: Al-Qaida No. 2 killed in Pakistan: U.S.

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    SuperLib

    Oracle: I have no idea how many civilians are killed by U.S. forces.

    Then you have no position.

    Posted in: Al-Qaida No. 2 killed in Pakistan: U.S.

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    SuperLib

    SpidaPig: I am not saying give them a free reign, they need to be gotten rid of l totally agree

    You feel they need to be gotten rid of? Why is that?

    Indeed AQ was formed around '89, however a large portion of the framework, funding, arming and personal came about as a result of US, Pakistani, Saudi support of the insurgents in the Afghan war. Or are you denying the fact that your country helped form the very organization you have been trying to destroy for years?

    There's no denial, just wondering what your point is. I suppose you have some way in which the Russians wouldn't take over the area while at the same time taking out OBL because he might turn against us decades later in response to freeing Kuwait from an Iraqi invasion? I'd like to hear your perfect path that the US should have taken that would have produced zero blowback while at the same time produced a workable result for the situations at hand when they happened.

    You're looking back with hindsight and pretending these things should have been known at the time which just isn't possible. If you want to keep going back in time and playing the blame game then you'd be going around telling everyone the Russians created Al Queda since they triggered the invasion that triggered X which triggered Y which triggered Z....

    Posted in: Al-Qaida No. 2 killed in Pakistan: U.S.

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    SuperLib

    Spidapig24: Well the number that keeps coming up is between 1600 and 2500. So as l said even if we take the lower number thats 1600 people killed, 1600 people whos family and friends, neighbours, and villagers who would have a hate on the US for killing their friends and loved ones. Thats 1600 peoples deaths who may have inspired people to help the groups opposed to the US.

    Can you elaborate? Is that the total number of people killed by drone strikes? That's close to the total numbers that I've seen. Or is that the total number of civilians killed by US forces in Pakistan? Or the total number of people killed, including militants? And what is the time frame?

    1600 people whos family and friends, neighbours, and villagers who would have a hate on the US for killing their friends and loved ones. Thats 1600 peoples deaths who may have inspired people to help the groups opposed to the US.

    Obviously they're angry. You seem to think that I'm denying that. But bigger picture issues dictate that being there is better than not being there and I have my own civilian data to back it up. I saw the video of a cop in Oakland shooting an unarmed man in the back but my first thought wasn't that we need to fire all police officers and I didn't go around telling people who disagreed with me that they obviously don't care about what that man's family is going through. The militants kill far, far more civilians than the US does so why don't you think about their families? Why are the larger numbers completely ignored in your posts?

    If you as a nation want to go around bombing your allies and killing civilians (yes even minimal numbers) then next time someone decides to fly a plane into your buildings or attack your embassies or nearly sink your warships dont come crying to the rest of the world for help because frankly you bring this on yourself.

    Last I checked the militants put planes into buildings because we sat on our asses and did nothing while they had free reign of an entire nation, which is the policy you're advocating but just can't seem to see that. And last I checked the militants are attacking just about everyone, including Pakistanis, Europeans, Asians, etc., so I guess they went around attacking people but we just haven't heard about it yet. I'm guessing when the Taliban behead schoolgirls you ignore the families and shake your fingers at the girls for bringing it on themselves.

    Posted in: Al-Qaida No. 2 killed in Pakistan: U.S.

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    SuperLib

    Oracle: As opposed to your U.S. military press releases?? Who do you think is running around Afghanistan counting bodies? Who grills those dead people with clever interrogation to determine if they were militants or kids with sticks that looked like handguns if the shadows were just right?

    Why don't you just come out and say you have absolutely no idea how many civilians are killed, and you may in fact be expressing outrage over numbers so small your entire position would look silly when compared to the damage terrorists are doing overall in numerous neighboring countries as well as Pakistan itself?

    Posted in: Al-Qaida No. 2 killed in Pakistan: U.S.

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    SuperLib

    Oracle: We are just pointing these things out because we want the U.S. and coalition to withdraw already.

    You can want the US to withdraw, but using fantasy evidence and positions isn't going to bring that about. It's just going to make you frustrated that no one is buying your bullshit. Do you have the numbers yourself? Why not tell us what you think the number is off the top of your head, then do some research and find out how close you are to the reported numbers from a variety of sources.

    Posted in: Al-Qaida No. 2 killed in Pakistan: U.S.

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    SuperLib

    Spidapig24: How many does it need to kill for people to become anti US. I would say for every one then you get an angry family / vil;age / tribe. But l know thats hard for you to understand

    No, I was being serious. I'm curious as if you know how many civilians the US has killed in Pakistan. I'm betting if you chose a number it would be wildly inaccurate.

    Overall the drone program has been extremely successful. Civilian casualties are extremely low, especially when compared to the civilians the terrorists have killed. And not only in Pakistan, but in Afghanistan and India as well. That's why a moderate like Obama has increased the number of drone strikes greatly. They're effective, and the strikes are done with the support of the Pakistani government who often share intelligence on where to strike. Obviously they have to pretend to be outraged to placated their uneducated masses and as a side effect liberals and anti-Americans use that silly position as some kind of evidence of wrongdoing, but the fact is that drone strikes basically kick ass, they don't create nearly the amount of damage that the enemy does on civilians, and they will continue and hopefully increase. And the increase in anger that you feel about the situation is mostly icing on the cake as far as I'm concerned.

    Posted in: Al-Qaida No. 2 killed in Pakistan: U.S.

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