Thursday February 16, 2012

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    SuperLib

    SpidaPig: I am not saying give them a free reign, they need to be gotten rid of l totally agree

    You feel they need to be gotten rid of? Why is that?

    Indeed AQ was formed around '89, however a large portion of the framework, funding, arming and personal came about as a result of US, Pakistani, Saudi support of the insurgents in the Afghan war. Or are you denying the fact that your country helped form the very organization you have been trying to destroy for years?

    There's no denial, just wondering what your point is. I suppose you have some way in which the Russians wouldn't take over the area while at the same time taking out OBL because he might turn against us decades later in response to freeing Kuwait from an Iraqi invasion? I'd like to hear your perfect path that the US should have taken that would have produced zero blowback while at the same time produced a workable result for the situations at hand when they happened.

    You're looking back with hindsight and pretending these things should have been known at the time which just isn't possible. If you want to keep going back in time and playing the blame game then you'd be going around telling everyone the Russians created Al Queda since they triggered the invasion that triggered X which triggered Y which triggered Z....

    Posted in: Al-Qaida No. 2 killed in Pakistan: U.S.

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    Spidapig24: Well the number that keeps coming up is between 1600 and 2500. So as l said even if we take the lower number thats 1600 people killed, 1600 people whos family and friends, neighbours, and villagers who would have a hate on the US for killing their friends and loved ones. Thats 1600 peoples deaths who may have inspired people to help the groups opposed to the US.

    Can you elaborate? Is that the total number of people killed by drone strikes? That's close to the total numbers that I've seen. Or is that the total number of civilians killed by US forces in Pakistan? Or the total number of people killed, including militants? And what is the time frame?

    1600 people whos family and friends, neighbours, and villagers who would have a hate on the US for killing their friends and loved ones. Thats 1600 peoples deaths who may have inspired people to help the groups opposed to the US.

    Obviously they're angry. You seem to think that I'm denying that. But bigger picture issues dictate that being there is better than not being there and I have my own civilian data to back it up. I saw the video of a cop in Oakland shooting an unarmed man in the back but my first thought wasn't that we need to fire all police officers and I didn't go around telling people who disagreed with me that they obviously don't care about what that man's family is going through. The militants kill far, far more civilians than the US does so why don't you think about their families? Why are the larger numbers completely ignored in your posts?

    If you as a nation want to go around bombing your allies and killing civilians (yes even minimal numbers) then next time someone decides to fly a plane into your buildings or attack your embassies or nearly sink your warships dont come crying to the rest of the world for help because frankly you bring this on yourself.

    Last I checked the militants put planes into buildings because we sat on our asses and did nothing while they had free reign of an entire nation, which is the policy you're advocating but just can't seem to see that. And last I checked the militants are attacking just about everyone, including Pakistanis, Europeans, Asians, etc., so I guess they went around attacking people but we just haven't heard about it yet. I'm guessing when the Taliban behead schoolgirls you ignore the families and shake your fingers at the girls for bringing it on themselves.

    Posted in: Al-Qaida No. 2 killed in Pakistan: U.S.

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    SuperLib

    Oracle: As opposed to your U.S. military press releases?? Who do you think is running around Afghanistan counting bodies? Who grills those dead people with clever interrogation to determine if they were militants or kids with sticks that looked like handguns if the shadows were just right?

    Why don't you just come out and say you have absolutely no idea how many civilians are killed, and you may in fact be expressing outrage over numbers so small your entire position would look silly when compared to the damage terrorists are doing overall in numerous neighboring countries as well as Pakistan itself?

    Posted in: Al-Qaida No. 2 killed in Pakistan: U.S.

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    SuperLib

    Oracle: We are just pointing these things out because we want the U.S. and coalition to withdraw already.

    You can want the US to withdraw, but using fantasy evidence and positions isn't going to bring that about. It's just going to make you frustrated that no one is buying your bullshit. Do you have the numbers yourself? Why not tell us what you think the number is off the top of your head, then do some research and find out how close you are to the reported numbers from a variety of sources.

    Posted in: Al-Qaida No. 2 killed in Pakistan: U.S.

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    Spidapig24: How many does it need to kill for people to become anti US. I would say for every one then you get an angry family / vil;age / tribe. But l know thats hard for you to understand

    No, I was being serious. I'm curious as if you know how many civilians the US has killed in Pakistan. I'm betting if you chose a number it would be wildly inaccurate.

    Overall the drone program has been extremely successful. Civilian casualties are extremely low, especially when compared to the civilians the terrorists have killed. And not only in Pakistan, but in Afghanistan and India as well. That's why a moderate like Obama has increased the number of drone strikes greatly. They're effective, and the strikes are done with the support of the Pakistani government who often share intelligence on where to strike. Obviously they have to pretend to be outraged to placated their uneducated masses and as a side effect liberals and anti-Americans use that silly position as some kind of evidence of wrongdoing, but the fact is that drone strikes basically kick ass, they don't create nearly the amount of damage that the enemy does on civilians, and they will continue and hopefully increase. And the increase in anger that you feel about the situation is mostly icing on the cake as far as I'm concerned.

    Posted in: Al-Qaida No. 2 killed in Pakistan: U.S.

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    SuperLib

    That would be pretty sweet.

    Posted in: Iran warns of regional crisis if Syria falls

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    And how do you propose the local political leaders get with the program when the US keeps bombing and killing civilians in their areas. Thereby creating more enemies and people that hate the US.

    How many civilians has the US killed with drone attacks?

    Posted in: Al-Qaida No. 2 killed in Pakistan: U.S.

  • 1

    SuperLib

    Oh I don't think good old fashioned Jew-hating talk is going to get Assad out of this mess.

    Posted in: Iran warns of regional crisis if Syria falls

  • -1

    SuperLib

    Asago: I am a pacifist

    You're an idiot.

    Posted in: U.N. headquarters car bombing in Nigeria kills 18

  • -1

    SuperLib

    What an idiot.

    Posted in: Book showing Ikea founder had deeper Nazi ties makes waves

  • 0

    SuperLib

    It's like a race. The world has to try to turn China into a civilized nation before they reach peak power. Aircraft carriers and missiles in the hands of a responsible nation is workable. The same technology in the hands of people banning songs because they "harm the security of state culture" is troublesome. It's like children with guns.

    Posted in: China bans songs by Lady Gaga, Backstreet Boys

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    SuperLib

    SushiSake: The U.S is whining that China wants to do what the U.S. has been doing ever since WWII?

    Keeping stability in Asia? Surely you aren't going to do hit-and-run posts now standing behind the Chinese, are you? Man up and surprise me for once.

    Posted in: U.S. warns that China is expanding its maritime power

  • 0

    SuperLib

    I think Mickey Rourke should play him in the movie.

    Posted in: Libyan rebels offer $2 mil bounty for Gadhafi

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    SuperLib

    Just weird. I can't imagine what kind of mind comes up with the thought that these specific songs to be banned, then actually bans them. There are probably a lot of ass-backwards conversations that take place daily within the walls of the neanderthal communist party in China.

    Posted in: China bans songs by Lady Gaga, Backstreet Boys

  • 0

    SuperLib

    I believe even logically we can account for human irrationality and still find DSK guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Look, even I thought the guy was guilty as hell when the story first broke and they talked about DNA evidence. But in the end the legal system played out and they did not think they could get a conviction based on the credibility of the accuser. End of story. I think you're mostly going after the "great, white defendant" at this point. If he had less money than the maid you'd probably have a different opinion.

    Posted in: Strauss-Kahn walks free after sex assault case dropped

  • 0

    SuperLib

    Hmm, lets see one unmanned ship lost vs 14 people in 2 accidents.

    Well to be fair we should include the Mexicans: Zero accidents and zero people killed. Can't beat that safety record.

    Posted in: Russian supply ship for space station crashes

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    SuperLib

    The DA was the one who had all of the information and made the decision. Unless there's some evidence to suggest that he acted with gross misconduct I don't see what the point is in rehashing evidence reported in the media. It would seem that the easy way out would be to just let a trail go forward, especially with all of the media attention.

    DSK is probably scum and got what he deserved which is a destroyed career. He's also facing allegations from women in France as well as a civil case by the maid. At the very least he is a married man and politician who had sex with a hotel maid. Just a lovely piece of work there.

    Without any physical evidence of a forced encounter a rape case turns into her word vs. his. And lying about past rapes goes a long way in destroying your credibility. Her choice and her fault. I don't have to defend DSK but as a man it is nice to know that prosecutors need more than a simple claim to put someone on trial for rape. They had the entire body of evidence and they made the decision. Case closed.

    Posted in: Strauss-Kahn walks free after sex assault case dropped

  • 0

    SuperLib

    Asago: So I guess the puppet govt must give away it's oil now

    That would be awesome!

    Posted in: Libyan rebels search for Gadhafi

  • 0

    SuperLib

    So is every report a warning? Or just the headline....

    Posted in: U.S. warns that China is expanding its maritime power

  • 0

    SuperLib

    So in the same week NK said they would expand their nuclear production and halt their nuclear production. Let's see where the dart lands tomorrow.

    Posted in: N Korea reported ready to halt WMD tests

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