Tuesday February 14, 2012

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    Terinati

    /agree with Orangeporange. The problem is at a deeper, societal level (in all countries, not just Japan), and giving an hour or two of propaganda at school each day or week is not gonna change it. In fact, it may make things worse.

    Nevermind the effectiveness of so-called "moral education" in schools, in anything like a democracy we should be beyond that kind of garbage. People disagree on what is moral and what is not, and they have that right. Free will is what makes morality meaningful. I would not send my kid to a school that had a "moral education" program. It's nobody's job but mine to teach my kid how to conduct himself morally.

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    Terinati

    If the rule in your household is "I'm right because I'm bigger than you and you can't defend yourself," then you will lose the respect of your children the moment they grow too big for you to beat them anymore. And don't give me this "spanking is not beating" BS. Assault is assault is assault. If you can't think of any way to deal with your child's misbehavior other than violence, you are not patient enough or intelligent enough to be a parent.

    Children will learn how to behave by watching how you behave. If you want your child to smack his schoolmates whenever things don't go his way, then smacking him when things don't go your way is a good way to teach. And don't be surprised when he grows up and abuses his girlfriend.

    I'm sure that a lot of people out there will say "I was spanked (or that horrendously offensive term 'tapped') as a child and now I'm the paragon of maturity that has never committed violence against another human being (except my own children)"... and yeah, I'm sure you turned out just fine. And I'm sure many many other people are just fine too. But that's like saying that because you spent a few days sunbathing and didn't get skin cancer means that people shouldn't worry about it. The equation is a bit more complex; results will differ.

    Somebody mentioned the modern world as being the cause of rising divorce rates, crumbling families, etc - with the implication that these things are somehow related to the "modern" idea that it isn't okay to beat your children. Quite the opposite, in fact. Families are falling apart because the people starting them grew up in families where they never learned how to have a functioning relationship with another human being. When your husband does something you don't like, you can't just start smacking him. If your wife doesn't act they way you want, you can't bend her over your knee and give her a spanking. "Well yeah, she's not a child" you might say, but the real reason is because she's a human being and that's not how human beings have functional relationships with each other.

    I'm not saying you shouldn't discipline your children, like Ned Flanders' beatnik parents. But violence is the easy way out, and it IS damaging, and it does NOT work. Many in favor of violence have spoken about how you need to talk to your children afterwords so that they know why you did it and that you don't hate them etc - well have you tried giving them the talk WITHOUT violence? Or trying some other form of punishment in conjunction with talking to them?

    Posted in: What are your views on parents hitting young children as a means of punishing or disciplining them?

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    Terinati

    I agree with "buttamimi," strange as the handle is. Religion has no place in the government of a democratic republic. The very fact that the candidates were even willing to participate in a forum devoted to their personal religious beliefs is insulting to me. Especially in light of America's foreign policies towards religion in other countries' governments.

    Posted in: Clinton, Obama focus on faith at forum

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