Wednesday February 15, 2012

Triumvere's past comments

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    Triumvere

    How romantic!

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    Triumvere

    Because homegrown violent extremists are so much better than the imported kind.

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    Triumvere

    Wow. That was fast. Good work!

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    Triumvere

    Look. Sketchy as the circumstances may be, they appear to be truly happy. Really, is there anything more important than that?

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    Triumvere

    This JeremiahW fellow is a sharp one.

    Posted in: Republican debate shifts from Cain scandal to eurozone crisis

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    Triumvere

    The Perry thing was embarrassing, painfully so.

    None of the candidates had anything whatsoever to say about the Eurozone crisis.

    Posted in: Republican debate shifts from Cain scandal to eurozone crisis

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    Triumvere

    And the public is dumb enough to buy it.

    It isn't just sex, though, is it? It's about abuse of power. It's about a lack of honesty and mismanagement. It's about moral bankrupcy. And it's about the place of women in society.

    I fail to see how this isn't a serious issue.

    Posted in: Cain says he won't be forced out of White House race by sex scandal claims

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    Triumvere

    Can anyone enlighten me why nobody even mentioned the use of Lie Detector in cases like this. Is it illegal? Is it useless, inaccurate?

    The last one.

    Posted in: Cain says he won't be forced out of White House race by sex scandal claims

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    Triumvere

    Or ma'am, as the case may be...

    Posted in: Cain says he won't be forced out of White House race by sex scandal claims

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    Triumvere

    Many of you are setting it up so that only men so completely chaste that even unproven allegations can't stick can run for office.

    Your standards of sexual conduct, sir, seem somewhat lacking. I don't see women going public to accuse Mitt Romney or even the "manly" Rick Perry of anything.

    Posted in: Cain says he won't be forced out of White House race by sex scandal claims

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    Triumvere

    Question: Where were these women in 2000 when Cain was running for president or in 2004 when he was running for the Senate? Wasn't important enough to go public then?

    Having never been a victim of sexual harrasment/assualt, I'm not in a good position to judge when it gets "important enough" to go public. I imagine it depends on the vicitm, as many find the experience quite traumatizing.

    I think Kraushaar's case is ediffying, however. From what I've read, she had no plans to go public and didn't want to speak about the incident. Then the cases were dug up by politico. When Cain publicly denied any wrong-doing she was spurred to release a statement through her lawyer. She was still trying to keep her name out of it, but recognized that she would be unlikely to be able to do so. The revelations of the 90's claims and Kraushaar's statements + Cains denials broght Bialek to come forward publicly - that seems like a major step to me, the breaking of the barrier that would make it easier for others to go public. Once Kraushaar's name was released publicly, she had a lot less to lose. Cains continued vocal, wide-brush denials of any wrongdoing have predictably pushed her toward going public.

    As you have seen right here on this boad, going public with sexual related allegations is difficult. You get a lot of flak from people who are more than willing to instantly judge you guilty of moneygrabbing or attention mongering. Your personal life and all it's details are dug through and exposed to everyone. Youget called a liar, slut,and a golddigger. I won't be surprised if the woman gets threats, anonymous or otherwise. If she really was harrassed, and in a serious and ongoing manner, then she is likely to have suffered emotional trauma, which she will be forced to relive (for the second time, given her 90's suit) - trauma which will be compounded by having large numbers of people, both strangers and worse people who know her, disbelieve her.

    That's a pretty high price to pay, if you ask me. Is it worth paying to punish Cain? Is it worth paying for settlment $$$? Is it worth paying for justice? Is it worth paying to support other victims, and perhaps prevent future ones? Is it worth paying to set the story straight, as you see it? That's a very personal question. The stakes go up as Cain gains power and prominence. Cain clearly knew about the settlements back when he ran for senate, as he instructed his lawyers and campaign guys about them so that they could be prepared if the issue came up. I don't know anything about the Senate race, other than that Cain apparently didn't win. I didn't know he ran for president in 2000 either. From that I gather that either the stakes were not high enough, or that Cain was not considered a viable candidate until quite recently.

    So, back to the why now: We have a confluence of elements: 1) The stakes are unprecedentedly high: Cain was (is?) in a real position to secure the Republican nomination for president of the United States. 2) The 90's settlements, if not their details, were brought to public attention by journalists (who's digging was prompted by #1). 3) Cain subsequently made public denials (which would rankle his accusers).

    Consequently, 4) Bialek comes forward which sort of shatters a glass wall. With one victim out in the public eye, putting a face to the allegations, it make it much easier for others to come forward... and the more that do, the more likely that others will join them. It increases the likelyhood that they will be believed. The can support eachother. There is solidarity, and when one is attacked the others will be spurred to come to her defense. As mentioned perviously, 6) Kraushaar's name has been released to the public. She has little privacy left to lose. And now, slowly, she is moving toward trying to get all the women together to share their stories.

    Now, could the allegations be false or overblown? Yes. But the above is a perfectly reasonable, even probably I'd say, explaination of "why now?" if the charges are true. And the more women that come forward and speak out, the more believable they become. Honestly, guilty or not, I think Cain is already toast. The damage has been done.

    Posted in: Cain says he won't be forced out of White House race by sex scandal claims

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    Triumvere

    Give the race card a rest already.

    Given that the lady originally sued him back in the 90's, I'm a bit confused as how they "found" her "to accuse him."

    Karen Kraushaar, interestingly enough, has apparently kept all of the documentation she had of the alleged harassment from the original suit. She wasn't intending to speak out about it, but Cain's insistance that her allegations against him were "proven baseless" has spurred her to action.

    If you thought this was ugly now, its going to get a whole lot uglier. I'm just waiting for the other women to join the chorus.

    Posted in: Cain says he won't be forced out of White House race by sex scandal claims

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    Triumvere

    The democrats, LDS, the Perry Campaign... I'm not sure why you need a conspiracy theory. Political reporters dig up dirt. That's what they do. And Cain is the man in the spotlight at the moment. Someone was bound to dig up those 90's settlements.

    Posted in: Cain says he won't be forced out of White House race by sex scandal claims

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    Triumvere

    Not necessarily. Cain was emerging as a front-runner, and some panicky Democrats, who for some reason are not confident that Obama can easily beat any of the Republican candidates, could have something to do with it.

    I don't know any democrats that are afraid of Herman Cain. Perhaps that's just sampling bias.

    That being said, lie-detector tests are bogus, there have been many cases of false positives/inaccuracies.

    Agreed.

    Posted in: Cain says he won't be forced out of White House race by sex scandal claims

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    Triumvere

    The “Democrat machine” would have waited until you were the nominee to destroy you, Herman.

    Posted in: Cain says he won't be forced out of White House race by sex scandal claims

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    Triumvere

    Ah, Fun with gaffes!

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    Triumvere

    Eh. Polygraphs are unreliable enough that they aren't permited as evidence in a court of law. I'm not sure I would want to take one if I were accused of something.

    Posted in: Cain sex accuser goes public in New York; he denies it on late-night TV

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    Triumvere

    Eh. I'm waiting for the explaination of how I am wrong.

    Posted in: Cain sex accuser goes public in New York; he denies it on late-night TV

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    Triumvere

    Eh. I'm waiting for the explaination of how I am wrong.

    Posted in: Cain sex accuser goes public in New York; he denies it on late-night TV

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    Triumvere

    Truth hurts, eh?

    Posted in: Cain sex accuser goes public in New York; he denies it on late-night TV

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