JAPAN NEWS AND DISCUSSION
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- Assistant Language Teacher (ALT) in Kanto region
- RCS (RCSコーポレーション), Kanto
- Salary: ¥180,000 ~ ¥250,000 / Month includes performance bonus
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- Assistant Language Teacher - TOKYO - late-March start
- Interac, Tokyo
- Salary: ¥230,000 ~ ¥255,000 / Month
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- Assistant Language Teacher - Kanagawa Prefecture - late-March start
- Interac, Kanagawa
- Salary: ¥230,000 ~ ¥255,000 / Month
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Triumvere
Pop Quiz! Who is stretching really hard to try and make a poorly supported point?
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China pledges to maintain the* status quo.*
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With a knife in his hand.
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Where's Inspector Morse when you need him?
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Triumvere
Justified, sadly.
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You are apparently unfamiliar with Japan.
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A) What makes you think that she lives in a particularly dangerous place? And, if she does live in a particularly dangerous place, what makes you think it would be practical for her to leave?
B) You do not "shoot to wound", such a strategy is extremely risky.
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Triumvere
I won't argue with your over-all point; she's going to have to deal with being responsible for the death of another human being her entire life.
But, as for that last line, I'm not so sure. She had the courage to defend herself and her child, and to make a very difficult choice under extreme pressure. There is, I would say, something admirable in that. Many here who talk tough probably could not do the same. Recognizing that is not necessarily the same thing as celebrating violence.
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Oh, and TinMadDog, please note that I am not saying that it would have been more dangerous in total for her to have called out a warning. Generally speaking, it is entirely possible that the "safety value" of potentially scaring away an intruder exceeds the risk of giving up the element of surprise. But, there is simply no way to measure this. In this particular case, seeing as the intruder was armed only with a knife, it seems likely that it would have scared him away - but we have no way of telling, and more importantly, she had no access to that information. All she knew was that 2 very determined assailants were bent on home invasion. It was perfectly reasonable for her to assume they were armed with guns.
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How was she to know he didn't have a gun? She specifically stated that she thought he did, for whatever that is worth.
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Triumvere
Should be rather obvious. If I know you have a gun and I still decide to attack you anyway, I'm going to try to make sure I get you before you get me. Hard to do with a knife, but she didn't know he had just a knife, did she? He could have had his own shotgun.
The ultimate point is this: the calculation was hers to make. She decided what she felt the risk was, weighed the consequences, and then chose a course of action. (Quite methodically, to, if her tone on the 911 call is of any indication.) You have no place criticizing her for it.
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Cleo does deserve points for harping on the response time. It may be that the slow response time was completely unavoidable, but we should ALWAYS ask the question in cases like these.
Of course, this is the essence of the right to bear arms. By owning your own firearm, you take responsibility for your own defense into your own hands. By not doing so, you leave that responsibility to law enforcement.Gun advocates need to realize that more guns means more guns in the hands of criminals, and more accidents, suicides by gun, and more irresponsible use. Gun opponents need to understand that the state cannot always be everywhere to protect you. It is a trade-off.
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ARRRGGG! Every year! And no one learns!
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Cleo & Smith,
With all due respect, I don't think you fully understand what you are asking this young woman to do. You are asking her to put herself and her child at risk for the sake of the intruder. Calling out a threat or firing a warning shot is a calculated risk: it could scare the attackers away, avoiding any bloodshed. But if it didn't she would have just increased her own risk of injury or death. It's a calculation that only she could have made. You have no right to ask here to take that risk on her own behalf, let alone that of her infant.
All the other issues are irrelevant. She cannot have known the intent of the attackers, but she is justified in assuming the worst. They were clearly trying to break in, and when the one intruder came in through the door, he had a knife in his hand. She claims that she saw "something shiny" and assumed it was a gun before firing. Now, this may not be true - she may have just shot the instant he came in the door, but once again, that is her right. You may have done differently, but you do not have the right to ask her to take that sort of risk.
As to her location... for goodness sake, her husband just died and this is her home. Rural Oklahoma is not some hell on earth filled with gun-toting savages, and even if it was it would still be her right to live there, unmolested, in her own house. In any case, the fact that people in rural Oklahoma usually leave their doors unlocked should tell you something about the crime level.
I don't own a gun, but I support the right to bear arms and to defend oneself. I am very leery of "proportional force" doctrines which ask people to risk their own life to the benefit of an unlawful attacker. Obviously, there are lines, but proportional force advocates tend to draw them much to close for my comfort.
Every state should have a "castle law."
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You'd lose that bet.
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Is it wrong that I kinda want one of these?
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Glad I'm not in Seoul right now; things are going to be tense for a while.
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...and now the interesting part starts...
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Love him or hate him, clearly a man of great stature. Farewell.
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What a horrible person.
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