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USAFdude
You're obviously not a member of the US military. Please don't try to act like you are.
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USAFdude
Not gonna lose my job, OTR. I've survived the cuts, I'll last till retirement, and I'll know that those I've mentored to take my place will enjoy a full military career just like I did.
It's revealing that you seem to be rooting for the opposite, just so you can pin the "blame" on President Obama. Doesn't sound like anything a patriot would do.
Anyway, I have to go now; I'm on duty in a couple of hours.
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USAFdude
Here's some more you don't know, cartoon boy. Enjoy!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/03/washington/03military.html?hp
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USAFdude
Prove your "facts", OTR. I base my statements on experience on the ground.
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USAFdude
Then do you care to explain the drawdown that's occurring in the US military as we "speak", a drawdown initiated by the bush administration?
Where's the conservative protection? Where's the equipment we badly need? Remember Rummy's statement about fighting with the military you have, not the military you want?
And finally, where's your beloved Fox News' coverage of the drawdown, since you seem to think Fox is so unbiased?
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USAFdude
OnTheRecord -
Nope, I never waste time considering things that have no chance of happening.
All I "get" reading your posts is sour grapes.
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USAFdude
Obama, and any other President, will give your tax dollars to the US military. You see, the President see us as patriots regardless of how we voted. This means you're paying my salary even though I voted for Obama. Thank you. Now get back to work.
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USAFdude
Because it was fun! xD
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USAFdude
Wolfpack - if the Liberals have been hurting our war efforts so much, why are still in Iraq? We elected Obama because he has the better plan for winning the war, not losing.
"Liberals refused to come together with Conservatives and Independents when the going got tough in Iraq", huh? If that's true, it's because those Republicans in power showed how out of control they let the war get. But now, so many Republicans don't even want to wait until President Obama takes office to bash him. Really "supportive".
"Hoping for defeat in Iraq or Afghanistan" is a childish, emotional statement without basis in fact for Obama or any other good American and will therefore receive no more response from me than this sentence.
Conservatives may oppose President Obama if they choose; it's when they announce to the world how much they want to deliberately impede Obama before he even sets foot in the White House that I take exception to them.
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USAFdude
DanManjt - You're very welcome. And btw, your 1:15 am post is brilliant. I got a little hot under the collar the other night and said that Republicans weren't true Americans because so many are already plotting against Obama; I provided several examples to back up my position as well as trashed two other posters' attempts to bat me over the head with the UCMJ. So it's good to see someone else putting these Repubs in their place. Just like the title says - in tatters. I say good riddance.
At the same time, I do admit that not all Republicans are Obama-haters; there actually are some out there truly interested in helping President Obama bring about the change America so desperately needs. But it's hard not to be suspicious when so many Repubs are so vocal in their hatred toward President Obama. Too many of them seem more interested in doing whatever is right for their "party" with no care about doing what's right for America. The two are inarguably opposite.
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USAFdude
SuperLib - thank you for your very good response to my question. In light of this, I withdraw my statement. I apologize to any and all whom I've offended.
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USAFdude
http://www.ucmj.us/uniform-code-of-military-justice/sub-chapter-10-punitive-articles.shtml#888.%20ART.%2088.%20CONTEMPT%20TOWARD%20OFFICIALS
Article 88 applies only to commissioned officers; I'm enlisted. Articles 89 and 90 apply to disresepct towards commissioned officers; bush is a civilian. Article 91 applies to disrespect toward a warrant officer, noncommissioned officer, or petty officer. bush is none of the above.
Still waiting for you to find anything forbidding contemptuous speech against a President.
Saying that we "dont actually have those god given rights after all" is not only as childish as you claim my statement was; it's just downright wrong.
As for ranting, check out the site I posted way near the top of this thread. THAT'S ranting, not anything I posted.
Now let me slip into teacher mode for you:
Step 1) Look at the title of this thread: Bush praises Obama, promises smooth handover
Step 2) Look at the site I posted: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/05/angry.mccain.supporters/index.html
Step 3) Consider my conclusion: These Republicans seem to consider being Republican more important than being American.
Step 4) Consider my evidence: The above site, plus the reaction of McCain supporters at his concession speech, during which McCain himself had to quiet down boos from the audience when McCain called for support of President-elect Obama. So much for a smooth handover.
Step 5) Answer my question: Why should I trust Republicans?
I can't make this any clearer than that. If you wish to blow off my logic and supported arguments as "ranting", then go ahead. But you'd look a lot more mature and rational if you'd actually read the UCMJ before posting, and then addressing my statement with at least a modicum of logic to back it up your argument.
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USAFdude
Nippon5 - I regret that you feel that I'm doing a "typical cut and paste" considering I used probably 90% of your post.
Anyway, you are completely wrong about military personnel not having the right to disagree with the C-in-C; you still have to follow his orders provided those orders are lawful. It's mentioned in the UCMJ (which, of course, I've read) as well as in the oath of enlistment.
Your statement that military members don't have any rights that a civilian does is just plain ignorant. The right to vote, the right to legal counsel, the right to appeal court decisions, the right to be paid for service, the list goes on and on, particularly in the UCMJ that you seem to believe you're such an expert on. These are all freedoms that "they" canNOT remove at will.
I also regret that you're glad not to have served with me. I gather from that statement of yours that you don't tolerate healthy dissention of any kind. But then again, neither presumably do the Republicans who want to make the handover to Obama as rough as possible. Hence, my original statement, which as far as I'm concerned, I've successfully defended. But since you want to end the discussion, OK then; have a nice day.
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USAFdude
Every word; why wouldn't I?
Total agreement. That's why I wrote: I followed bush's orders, even though I'm a Democrat. When the handover takes place, I'll follow Obama's. That's what I swore to do.
If that were true, military members wouldn't bother to vote. It is through reason and experience that people, civilian AND military, vote the way they do.
A US military member DOES have an obligation to serve the President of the United States. Refer to the oath of enlistment.
I DON'T believe bush served in a proper manner. That's why I exercised my right to vote against his party. My comments reflect that.
Wrong. You do have rights of free speech in the military; refer to the opinions section of any Stars and Stripes newspaper where troops freely write against bush, and even sign their names and ranks to them. To my knowledge, none have ever been punished for doing so, nor should they. As for the UCMJ, I know that threatening a superior is prohibited; I've never threatened a superior, nor would I ever.
Uh, what about the other three years, 364 days? If you really think my job won't change in that time, you're the one whose sense of reality is distorted.
Once again, having bush as a C-in-C does not mean I don't want to serve my country. I've done so with honor, decoration, and distinction before and during the bush years; I'll continue to do so afterward. As for being against war, any sane person is; but if I have to defend the US, I'll do so, as I've done before.
Bush should make the transition as smooth as possible; no argument there. It's the other Republicans out there spewing hatred toward a newly-elected President who hasn't even taken office yet that concern me. Their words are the true crap that's counter productive to the US and therefore is counter productive to Obama, not mine.
There are more than a few of these hateful idiots, tragically. As for intelligence, I'm still waiting for your intelligent answer to my question: why should I trust the Republicans, especially after the vitriol so many spew today? Calling out people for such filth as these people have thrown around is not unintelligent, not being an ass, and not becoming the child. It IS the high road, which I've inarguably taken.
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USAFdude
Well, I've learned that no matter who my C-in-C is, I have to follow his orders to the letter, whether it's bush or Obama. I've also learned that a handover of the Presidency, as is the topic of this thread, requires the full support of the military.
I followed bush's orders, even though I'm a Democrat. When the handover takes place, I'll follow Obama's. That's what I swore to do. The question is: will Republicans be as supportive of Obama when the handover takes place as I was expected to be (and was) when President Clinton handed over to bush? Right now, it doesn't seem likely.
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USAFdude
Done. My opinion still stands.
Feel free to disagree with me, but I've provided more than ample evidence supporting my original post. Hardly garbage from me.
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USAFdude
Sounds like you're speaking of Republicans. Sad, indeed. Did you bother to check out the links I provided? It pretty much sums up Republican thinking right about now. Does that sound like something an American would say?
No, it inarguably does not.
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USAFdude
OK, USNinJapan2, I'll humor for a moment:
Read this. READ this: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/05/angry.mccain.supporters/index.html
or, you could try: http://www.japantoday.com/category/world/view/republicans-in-tatters-looks-to-regroup
Any reason why I should trust Republicans? I'd be happy to just as soon as Republicans start acting like Americans and support President Obama. I fully understand you're hurting right now, and that's why I forgive you for lashing out at me. But it's you that needs to, in your own words, grow up. You have validated my original post by responding so vehemently to it, thus it is productive and mature. Now, I call upon you and other Republicans to be productive and mature; support President Obama and give me a reason to trust Republicans again. What will you do to help Bush make the handover to President Obama smooth, as the title of this thread suggests?
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smithinjapan
Amen, brother!
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USAFdude
sailwind - we ARE starting to get over it; that's why we elected Barack Hussein Obama President of the United States of America last night.
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