Thursday February 16, 2012

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    VOR

    okay JoeBigs go ahead and believe that.

    Posted in: Obama seeks $83.4 billion for Iraqi, Afghan wars

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    VOR

    Obama ran as the anti war candidate but is governing as anything but.

    Don't get me wrong, Obama is doing the right thing turning his back on the people that voted for him and not the Iraqi people.

    Posted in: Obama seeks $83.4 billion for Iraqi, Afghan wars

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    VOR

    Here on JT, when Obama lies it always ends up being George Bush's fault.

    Posted in: Obama seeks $83.4 billion for Iraqi, Afghan wars

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    VOR

    The problem with Obama is not being able to trust anything he says.

    Posted in: Obama seeks $83.4 billion for Iraqi, Afghan wars

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    VOR

    “This goal will not be reached quickly—perhaps not in my lifetime,”

    Translated: I have no real plan to actually do what I just said I'd do but why should that matter.

    Posted in: Obama outlines sweeping goal of nuclear-free world

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    VOR

    But you wrote anyone advocating resrtricting gun ownership had to guarantee the safety of those who now rely on personal firearms to do the job while conceding guns themselves offer no such guarantee.

    You got it. If you can't guarantee people's safety, you can not deny them their ability to defend themselves. There is nothing inconsistent about that.

    Posted in: Gunman kills 13, then himself at New York immigrant help center

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    VOR

    Having a gun is no guarantee either.

    No one said it was.

    Posted in: Gunman kills 13, then himself at New York immigrant help center

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    VOR

    skip, what made you think the guy was a white supremacist?

    Posted in: Gunman kills 13, then himself at New York immigrant help center

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    VOR

    I know a guy who was confronted by two individuals who intended to rob him. When he pulled his weapon they ran away. Since they no longer posed any danger to him he left it at that. His gun prevented himself from being robbed or killed.

    Posted in: Gunman kills 13, then himself at New York immigrant help center

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    VOR

    Protection then becomes your overriding concern. How were these students supposed to both learn a foreign language and be ready to fire in the event a nutcase with an assault weapon came through the door?

    I'm not advocating everybody carry a weapon. Its a personal choice. If you don't feel the need to own a weapon, don't. Just don't attempt to deny millions of law abiding citizens the right to do so unless you can guarantee their safety.

    Posted in: Gunman kills 13, then himself at New York immigrant help center

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    VOR

    Nope, and neither will owning a gun. Maybe in the afterworld there are guarantees, but not in this life.

    If you cannot guarantee my safety then you have no business denying my right to protect my family.

    Posted in: Gunman kills 13, then himself at New York immigrant help center

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    VOR

    Those cities implemented gun control laws in response to higher crime rates. Guess what? In NYC four out of five guns used in the commission of a crime were purchased south of the Mason-Dixon Line where laws are laxer.

    so the criminals drive south and purchase their guns legally? are you really sure about that or are you just repeating something you do not have all the facts?

    federal gun laws are the same nationwide, some states impose stricter requirements. tell me more how new yorker with criminal records are able to legally purchase guns outside new york?

    Posted in: Gunman kills 13, then himself at New York immigrant help center

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    VOR

    This is true. But if and when guns are better controlled and their numbers severely reduced, then we won't need guns to defend ourselves so often, will we?

    The most violent cities in America are the ones with the strictist gun control laws. How do you explain that?

    I know you are well intentioned but taking away law abiding citizens' ability to protect themselves only puts them in more danger. Can you guarantee my safety? If not, please do not attempt to deny me my right to protect myself and my loved ones.

    Posted in: Gunman kills 13, then himself at New York immigrant help center

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    VOR

    Please open your eyes to reality, and leave your gun dreams on your PlayStation.

    The reality is that American society contains predators and the government cannot guarantee any of its citizens safety whether guns are permitted in society or not.

    The government is incapable of enforcing laws already on the books, what makes you think anyone is going to be any safer if they deny citizens the ability to protect themselves?

    Posted in: Gunman kills 13, then himself at New York immigrant help center

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    VOR

    these slaughters happen at locations where the perpetrator knows there are no guns on the premises; schools, college campuses, nursing homes, workplaces etc. I've yet to see it happen in locations where armed security is present or the targets might be able to shoot back.

    the call to strip law abiding Americans the right to protect themselves is just fascists being fascists.

    Posted in: Gunman kills 13, then himself at New York immigrant help center

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    "Really, you've got to wonder what kind of a trainwreck a society has become when you hear people say things like "But, we NEED guns to protect ourselves." (from other people who also have guns)."

    A trainwreck of a society that doesn't protect its borders. A trainwreck of a society in which the criminal justice system serves as a revolving door to violent criminals. A trainwreck of society which produces a bunch of cowards who think the government is capable of protecting them. Yeah sushi i'll have to agree with you on that one, America has become a trainwreck. Thank your fellow liberals for driving a once great society right off the tracks.

    Posted in: 7 residents, 1 nurse die in N Carolina nursing home shooting

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    VOR

    Even the Europeans get it. I'm moving to Prague.

    Posted in: EU presidency: U.S. stimulus is 'the road to hell'

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    VOR

    ==That sentence ignores the fact that bush weilded the veto pen and made sure Republican aims were achieved during the 2 bush terms.

    sushi: really? thats news to me. i'm familiar with this tired old line and looked at the Bills that Bush vetoed and none of them had anything to do Democrats efforts to address the economy. Go ahead, try to prove me wrong.

    ==That sentence ignores the fact that the bush Republicans blew $2-3 trillion on the Iraq war.

    Sushi: Congress voted unanimously to go to war in Iraq after much debate. In fact Congress keeps funding the war so blaming Bush is another ridiculous notion of the left.

    ==That sentence ignores the fact the bush Republicans slashed taxes for the super rich, and borrowed every penny for the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions, while not asking Americans to sacrifice anything for the wars.

    Sushi; Bush slashed taxes for every American and not just the super rich. Everyone paid less taxes in America under George Bush. Again, the legislative branch allocates the funds. The executive branch identifies the cost.

    ==That sentence ignores the fact that the bush Republicans added more than $6 trillion to U.S. national debt.

    Sushi; i hate repeating myself but again congress approves spending, the president can only sign it into law or veto it. That 6 trillion in debt also pays for a lot of social programs which are sacred cows of the democratic party. can't put that all on Bush and the republicans.

    ==I always get a kick out of hearing Republicans deny all responsibility and complain about Obama adding to the country's debt mountain. :-)

    Sushi; not true. i have yet to see any Republican claim Bush messed up. In fact most any real conservative would tell you Bush's compassionate conservatism is just Obama lite.

    Like the economy was running perfectly before Obama assumed power.

    ==Sushi, you like making things up.

    Posted in: Obama regroups, fine tunes financial overhaul

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    VOR

    its always amazing seeing JT's cadre of instant experts blame the republicans for the current state of affairs while ignoring the role of the democrats over the past four years. Pelosi has been in charge of the House for 4+ years, Reid been leading the Senate for over 2 years. The economy turned sour only after the Democrats were firmly in control of Congress. Putting all the blame on the Republicans is more than a little dopey.

    Now that the Democrats have total control of the government, its put up or shut up time. Spending trillions and then hearing the President of the United States say "don't expect much" pretty much sums up how much confidence the American people should have in their current government.

    Posted in: Obama regroups, fine tunes financial overhaul

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    VOR

    Obama caters to the gullible and the ignorant.

    He's been talking down the economy for two years, continued talking down the economy through the passages of the porkulus package and the earmark laden omnibus. now that the Democrats have paid off their political supporters we are to believe this boldface liar that all is well in obamaland. the only ones believing that are the ones that believe anything as long as it involves a free handout.

    nice try obama. your little propagandizing works well on the uneducated and closet commies but falls short, way short on those of us paying attention. How about instead of lying to the American people you try rolling up the sleeves and fixing what is really hurting the economic health of the United States, the demise of the US banking system.

    Posted in: White House says economy is sound despite 'mess'

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