Thursday February 16, 2012

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    WhiteHawk

    it's funny how people here always want to pass judgement on the victims. i'd hate to be married to you all. i can hear it now...'i told you so...how could you be so stupid...if you had only listened to me'..etc.

    Hahaha, that's why internet forums were invented: Their spouses stopped listening.

    This is the first I've heard of this accident, but not the first I've heard of the recall. I doubt it mattered if the driver was a CHiP, as police officers in the U.S. aren't known for being the best drivers. Or the best shots, for that matter.

    I don't understand this mentality of calling 911 first either. Someone can't remember to put the car in neutral and use the handbrake because they're panicked, but they can dial 911, talk to the operator and pray? Next thing you know, people will call 911 if a drive-thru gets their junk food order wrong. Oh, wait...

    Now if an experienced racing driver had a fatal accident because of the floor mat, especially if there was time to call 911 and pray, I would be surprised. But the lack of driver training and testing in the U.S. means that just about anything can cause a driver to "lose control" of their car (as if they ever had control in the first place).

    Posted in: Toyota president expresses regret over fatal crash in U.S. due to floor mat

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    WhiteHawk

    nigelboy:

    Hicktown TN

    Franklin, TN is routinely rated one of the best places in the US to live and raise a family. Even the public schools are quite good, and the private schools are better.

    Williamson county is home to Nissan North America, and other Japanese businesses in Tennessee include:

    Toshiba (Lebanon)

    Komatsu (Chattanooga)

    DENSO (Athens and Maryville)

    Brother (Bartlett)

    Mitsue (Nashville)

    Bridgestone/Firestone (Nashville)

    Viam Manufacturing (Manchester)

    GOH America Corporation (Memphis)

    Iris Management Support (Nashville)

    M-TEK (Manchester)

    NKC of America (Nashville)

    Tokio Marine and Nichido Fire Insurance (Franklin)

    Toyota Tsusho America (Maryville)

    Takahata Precision America (Helenwood)

    The list goes on and on. Even the little Mom-and-Pops business I work for does more than half of its business in Japan.

    Almost 80% of Japan's US population resides in Tennessee. There is a Japanese consulate in Nashville. And for many years, Tennessee was home to the only all-Japanese school in the U.S.

    Not New York, not San Francisco, not Los Angeles, and not Seattle. If Savoie's ex-wife couldn't find a way to be comfortable here, she was going to have a tough time finding a better place in the U.S.

    I know it's standard fashion to bash any place in the South as "backward" and "ignorant", but only deliberately ignorant people would say such a thing about Middle Tennessee. One only needs to stay here a few weeks to see how cosmopolitan Nashville is, with the wide variety of music performed and recorded here, the diverse arts, cultural and political scenes, and the offerings of universities such as Vanderbilt.

    If someone can't wrap their heads around that, and still insist on calling us "hicks", then they're just another bigot and that's their problem.

    Posted in: American father arrested in Japan had asked Tennessee court for help

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    WhiteHawk

    Wow, and I thought my girlfriend was having a rough time with her ex-husband over their son (and she is - too long a story to go into here).

    Savoie, a 38-year-old from Franklin, Tennessee

    That's just to the south of me. I wonder if he worked for Nissan. If so, I may have friends and family who know him.

    Posted in: American arrested in Fukuoka for kidnapping own kids from ex-wife

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    WhiteHawk

    If anyone wants to watch a cleverly made short film looking at the triumphs of American capitalism, check out The Story of Stuff. Google it and enjoy!

    I preferred the movie debunking it on Glenn Beck's website.

    If capitalism is so wrong, why does Moore expect people to pay to see his movie? Shouldn't it be provided by the government (like that Story of Stuff propaganda being shown in American public schools)? Or maybe some "rich" person (hmmmm, like Moore) is supposed to pay for your tickets?

    Capitalism works. It's the basis for any economic system that needs to grow to meet the needs of a growing population. You can bleed it here and there for this vote-buying redistribution scheme or that vote-buying entitlement program, but it's still the foundation of any growing socio-economic system.

    And capitalism is not evil. Neither are guns, cars, or votes. Any of them can be used for evil, but they are not evil by themselves. It comes down to the user. But that's personal responsibility, which seems to set off alarms on the Left. Fine, attack capitalism. Then try to grow your own food in your 3-mat apartment.

    Showmanship Moore's top commodity in 'Capitalism'

    As always. Substance and accuracy? Not so much.

    Posted in: Showmanship Moore's top commodity in 'Capitalism'

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    WhiteHawk

    This is a comic book movie. Let's not take this movie so seriously.

    Bingo. It's not like Oliver Stone rewriting the history of an American president. Well, okay, it is like it in the sense that the movies are complete fiction, but with the X-Men movies, the sources are fiction too. Just relax and enjoy them as entertainment.

    Posted in: Hughman nature

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    WhiteHawk

    bgaudry:

    Sexism is not the problem here. Rampant capitalism is the cause.

    Fascinating. So you're claiming that "in the good old days" before capitalism, adults didn't have sex with children? Good luck proving that.

    Posted in: MSDF member arrested for having sex with 13-year-old girl

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    WhiteHawk

    Where is Naomi's left hand anyway?

    I know where my girlfriend's hand would be if she were standing there... She'd have a firm grip on Jackman's bum!

    I liked the movie, but then I went in hoping to see an action film with Wolverine kickin' butt. And that's what I saw. My girlfriend went in hoping to see Jackman with his shirt off. And that's what she saw. And more. So everybody was happy.

    Even though movie prices have gone up here in the U.S., it's still cheaper than seeing them in Japan.

    Posted in: Wolverine

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    WhiteHawk

    I suspect it might have soemthing to do with the way welfare is handled in the U.S.

    In Japan, you have to provide receipts for what you spend your welfare money on, and you're only given enough to keep from being homeless and starving, right? In the U.S., people are handed checks and that's it. The more children they have, the more forms they fill out, the more money they get. As you can imagine, too much is spent on drugs.

    Posted in: U.S. fares poorly in child welfare survey

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    WhiteHawk

    smithinjapan:

    I mean on the surface.... very far for said poster) to see that Kennedy himself was one of the main people championing the plan.

    Of course he was championing it. It was meant for the "little people", he wasn't going to suffer under it even if it had passed years ago. If Kennedy would have given up his own health plan for this one, then I would be posting that he was a man of substance instead of reminding his defenders he was such a fraud.

    yabits:

    I will agree that it was nice that at least one of Rose Kennedy's four sons could live to a decent age.

    Sadly, it was the son she considered "the dumb one".

    The conservative fanatics who smear Ted Kennedy

    Hahaha... "smear"... hahaha... Yeah, no projection here! /sarcasm

    "Smear" as in reminding the pathological defenders of this drunken, womaninzing fraud of the indisputable facts about his life. "Smear" as in refusing to bury the inconvenient truth about Teddy Kennedy along with his corpse. Hey, he didn't allow his political partishanship and abuse of power to be buried with him (having a state law concerning the appointment of his successor changed under Romney be changed back now under Patrick), so why should the truth about his corrupt soul be buried?

    If Ted Kennedy had run his car into another person and killed them, that would be manslaughter.

    So if Kennedy killed someone on the outside of his car, it would be manslaughter, but since he killed someone on the inside of his car, it wouldn't be?

    I'm not an attorney, but I think if you check other fatal accident reports in America, you'll find that the guilty driver gets charged for the deaths of his passengers just as he does for those on the outside of his vehicle.

    In aviation, we have the term "Pilot in Command". On the plane, the pilot is dictator. He is also the one ultimately responsible.

    There is nothing about Ted Kennedy's behavior on the night in question that liberals "condone."

    Wow, how you contradict yourself, again. On another thread - you know, the one where you said Teddy had been drinking a good bit and less than two hours later was arguing with right-wingers that they couldn't prove he had been drinking at all - you actually claimed Kennedy didn't notify the authorities because he was "lost", in spite of the fact that he supposedly found his way back to the party, then back to the accident site, then swam 500' across the channel and found his way back to his hotel. Technically, you weren't "condoning" his actions. You were repeating his bovine scatology story and making excuses for him.

    You accuse right-wingers of making false accusations while you make false defenses. Fascinating.

    SuperLib:

    Yeah I've often wondered what I would do if I found myself upside down in pitch black conditions with water rushing in to my car as it's sinking. I definitely know I'd be able to save anyone in the car, plus myself. Yeah, for sure. No problem.

    I'm betting you would walk 300 feet back to the house you just passed and notify the authorities right away.

    tigermoth

    There seems to be a double standard that liberals exercise unashamedly. Without getting off topic and causing the moderators to yank this, a quick example: GBII got out of active service in Vietnam through daddy's help.

    Actually, the investigation that CBS hired out determined that not only did Lieutenant George W. Bush volunteer for Vietnam (and was passed over for more experienced pilots), Mary Mapes knew about it before going forward with the story (and the forged National Guard documents) that brought about the end of Dan Rather. It's a good thing that very fabricated story didn't determine the election as Mapes intended.

    But then to walk home and simply not report it until the next morning

    Okay, time to bust another myth: Kennedy did not report the accident to the authorities the next morning, or ever. Two local fishermen found the car that morning and called the authorities. Kennedy only turned himself in to authorities when he saw the diver bring Kopechne's body to the surface.

    yabits:

    I don't believe the 29-year-old Mary Jo Kopechne would have gotten into a car with a person too drunk to drive safely. I don't doubt that Kennedy had been drinking, but the fact that she ASKED to ride with him back to the hotel indicates something. She was reputed to be a very straight, serious-minded person.

    ...who left her hotel key and purse at the party. In the 60's, drinking and driving was neither uncommon or taboo. Illegal, yes, but not enforced as it is today. Remember, this was only two years after seat belts were mandatory in cars. They were only lap belts, and we weren't required to wear them in most states, if any. Those were different times.

    Nice attempt to cover your previous self-contradiction there, yabits.

    I find your use of the word "canonizing" in this context ludicrous. A fair-minded person can evaluate Kennedy's many accomplishments as a Senator and praise him for that. There isn't a liberal on the planet who will deny that Chappaquiddick left a permanent stain on his legacy.

    So why have you lashed out at every "right-winger" who brings up inconvenient truths about Kennedy and exaggerate their statements about him?

    Posted in: Democrats: Honor Kennedy through civil debate

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    WhiteHawk

    yabits:

    Joseph Kennedy, having suffered a debilitating stroke in 1961, was barely able to coprehend what was going on in the last year of his life, much less go around writing plea deals.

    Oh, you're just sore I caught you contradicting yourself on Kennedy's drinking that fateful night. ;)

    The Kennedy family held great influence in Massachussetts, and there's no reasonable way you can deny it.

    Getting into Harvard, getting his Army enlistment reduced by half and a posh assignment away from the Korean War, having his brother's senate seat reserved until he was old enough to run for it, riding the popularity of his brothers into office, getting a ceremonial slap on the wrist for causing the death of someone, trading on the myth of the Kennedy "Camelot" to secure his office even to his dying breath...

    It is not "derangement" to point out these facts about Teddy Kennedy's life. It is derangement to obsessively ignore those facts and attack those who voice them, in an attempt to portray Teddy Kennedy as anything more decent than the drunken, womanizing, fortunate benefactor of a political empire based on a bootlegger's fortunes.

    Since my original points about Teddy being a fraud have not been challenged - much less proven wrong - then I will continue to stand by them and repeat whenever I want. If any Kennedy fans don't like it, well, you've have ample opportunity to spend your energy trying to prove me wrong and instead you wasted it attacking me.

    As I've said before, I won't dance on Teddy's grave, but I won't forgive him either. If you want to call me vile or hateful or whatever, go ahead. I honestly could not care less what anyone here thinks of me. In the end, you're only lying to yourselves. If there's any hate on these Kennedy threads, it's the Kennedy fans hating me for refusing to bury the truth along with Teddy.

    Edward "Teddy" Kennedy is dead, the truth about him is not.

    Posted in: Kennedy remembered for 'dream he kept alive'

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    WhiteHawk

    That's what I like about the British police: They're always on top of everything.

    ;)

    Posted in: UK police to review Rolling Stones guitarist's death in 1969

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    WhiteHawk

    Let's keep it in context. We've seen time and again the Democrats' idea of "bi-partisanship", so you can just guess what they mean when they call for "civil debate".

    RomeoRamenII:

    The democrats do realize the Kennedys have corrupted every institution they have been involved with: legal system, the education system, the U.S. Senate and the Catholic Church.

    You're right, but don't forget about the space program and lunar exploration. JFK got that one right.

    Posted in: Democrats: Honor Kennedy through civil debate

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    WhiteHawk

    Going back to an earlier point...

    yabits:

    Rendering first aid would have meant getting her out of the back seat of a car resting upside down under about 8 feet of water.

    Where did you find out it was upside down? The only photo I've seen of the car in the water shows it resting on its right side, perfectly visible from the surface. Subtract the width of a '68 Oldsmobile Delmont from 8 feet...

    Also, every photo of the car being removed the water shows it right-side up on its tires. So if it was upside-down from the accident, it must've been righted prior to towing it from the water. That couldn't have been easy.

    After trying multiple times and not succeeding, Kennedy went back to the party he and Mary Jo had left and returned with two men, who also tried and failed to get to the back seat.

    And yet, the diver was able to find her and get her out within minutes the next morning.

    Kennedy testified that he failed to see houses in the area that he could have gone to to report the accident.

    The Dike House was in plain view of the accident site, and the owner testified his outside light was on. It was such a pathetic excuse, and certainly not a sign of intellignce. If that was his excuse for not reporting the accident at the scene, then what was his excuse for not reporting it when he returned to the party to get his two friends, or not reporting it when he got back to his hotel?

    12:47 AM, 29th August:

    It's plausible, considering his state of mind and the amount of alcohol in him.

    So funny. Because you then said...

    2:27 AM, 29th august

    Reasonable people don't make unfounded charges. Where is the evidence that Kennedy was driving drunk?

    Thanks for the laugh yabits, but you are busted! 逮捕しちゃうぞ! Hahaha...

    I have said all along that those actions were inexcuseable and reprehensible. But they don't constitute homicide.

    But they DO constitute manslaughter.

    I guess you are implying that Ted failed to use his cell phone. First of all, there was no phone at the scene.

    There was one at the previously mentioned Dike House.

    Secondly, it is apparent that Ted was lost.

    Actually, it was apparent he wasn't, since he went back to the party to get friends, then swam across a channel and found his way back to his hotel.

    What's truly apparent is that he was a liar. A very bad one. That never kept people from being gullible enough to believe his lies, though.

    What was the minimum amount of time that could have elapsed after Ted stopped trying to dive to get Mary Jo out of the car and before he could actually find a phone with which to summon support?

    How long does it take to walk the (approximately) 300 feet to the Dike House?

    You do understand that there are right-wing lunatics out there who actually believe that Ted murdered Mary Jo, right?

    Just as there are those who try to claim Teddy didn't drink at a party.

    He did cause her death, there's no way around that.

    And being a coward doesn't appear to exclude anyone from a leadership position in either of the two major parties. Some CBS news guy one time tried to prove that one particular Republican was a coward, and he was fired for doing so.

    That "CBS news guy" probably got pushed out for pushing a story he knew was false. Remember that investigation CBS hired out? Well, it discovered that Lieutenant G.W. Bush did in fact volunteer to go to Vietnam, but was passed over for more experienced pilots. AND MARY MAPES KNEW IT.

    adaydream:

    I'm wondering if they felt as strongly about the death of Richard Nixon? I'm wondering if they felt pleased with the end death of a person who would do absolutely anything to advance his cause?

    Nixon didn't cling to his office until the day he died. He resigned to save the country an impeachment trial some two decades prior to his death, remember? In that respect, he clearly had more integrity than Kennedy.

    But since you don't remember Nixon very accurately, don't worry. Our current president has much more in common with Nixon than you're comfortable with.

    Get away from the homicide issue that you thrashed through earlier, what was so wrong with Edward Kennedy?

    He was a fraud.

    SuperLib:

    Then he didn't report the accident himself until the next morning.

    He never reported the accident at all. Two local fishermen reported the accident when they saw the car the next morning. Kennedy only went to the police after he saw the diver remove Kopechne's body from the car.

    hworta269:

    What Nixon could have done with today's technology? like taking control of the internet? having everyone who criticized him investigated, shut down or taking over and or changing management of the entire local broadcast industry in America?

    Bill would give president emergency control of Internet

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10320096-38.html

    ABC News Teams Up With Obama White House to Present President's Health Care Plan

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/16/abc-news-teams-obama-white-house-present-presidents-health-care-plan/

    Look out kids, Nixon is back! And this time, he's one of your own...

    Posted in: Nixon dug deep for dirt on Ted Kennedy

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    WhiteHawk

    Jaycee is their mother rather than their sister, is going to be embraced by people who will inadvertently invalidate their existence by pointing out, "He should never have been released, this all could have been avoided."

    I hope you didn't take my comments in that way. Their existence cannot be invalidated, and they have little choice but to live their lives and grow as best they can. How they came into this world is tragic, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't as much opportunity as anyone else to make the best of life.

    Posted in: Questions arise over how 11-year-old girl's kidnapper went undetected for 18 years

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    WhiteHawk

    hworta269:

    Smith democrats are going to use his death to further their health care bill which was a prediction a while ago. Now talking about his "drams" in meaning legislation I wonder how long he would have lived if he had to use the same healthcare he would force on all the rest of Americans?

    But that's Teddy was all about: Passing laws for everybody else to live under.

    buddha4brains:

    The wind farm story is all about Kennedy working with Ted Stevens and other Republicans to halt construction.

    ...of a wind farm. In Cape Cod.

    That was the intention of the article, yes. But the story-within-the-story was that Kennedy's environmentalism ideals only applied to other people's backyards. When it came to spoiling his (or his friends, family and neighbors) view, he was just as NIMBY as all the other "limousine liberals".

    smithinjapan:

    Don't expect WhiteHawk to acknowledge his being incorrect in favour of simply pretending he's right and doing exactly what he claimed others do -- simply wait for the next Kennedy post and stop on this one. I mean, the guy actually said what he wrote was 'original' and yet in the same sentence said it's the 'same thing' he posts every thread. I realize he meant original as in his own, but unoriginal in thought is just that.

    Yes, original as in "my own". buddha4brains' question addressed whether I was copying someone else's idea. The fact that I've had to repeat my points in thread after thread (and getting personal insults instead of intelligent debate as already noted) says much more about the defensiveness and ignorance of Kennedy's fans than it does about any supposed lack of creativity on my part.

    If someone had debated me and proven me wrong the first time, I would've dropped it then. Unlike so many of JT's left-wing posters who lose a debate on one thread, then continue repeating their original - and defeated - talking points on every subsequent thread addressing the issue.

    So... back to the debate? There are more points left to cover.

    adaydream:

    For those who like throwing stones, but there were no finer men then Ted Kennedy. He was a pillar of public service and passionate about life. < :-)

    If he genuinely cared about life and "those less fortunate", he would have given his own life to save a drowning woman, no? I mean, that's what heroes do. They put others before themselves and risk or even give their lives to save them. But when given the opportunity, he wouldn't even give up his political career.

    No, Teddy was just another condescending "limousine liberal". A wealthy (by inheritance), stubborn, powerful, politically-connected one, to be sure, but that does not make him a "fine man". He might be a saint to you, Alan, but he's only a Patron Saint of Fortunate Relations. In other words, he was nothing without everybody else.

    yabits:

    Nope, there is no record of a Mary Jo Kopechne serving as a 5-term senator.

    You say that like being a 5-term senator means anything.

    Tatanka:

    Bill Maher can say nasty things about Jerry Falwell upon his death, but when conservatives say anything derogatory about Teddy, they are called vile and heinous.

    They don't even have to say anything deragatory. All they have to do is remind Kennedy's fans of the facts about his life. Which are, um, derogatory in context. Ah well. Teddy lived his life as he wanted, it wasn't directed by his detractors on JT.

    By the way, Teddy did plead guilty to leaving the scene of an accident -- which would have been like Lee Harvey Oswald pleading guilty to disharging a gun in a public place...

    Well, let's be fair about this. ;) Oswald didn't have a rich-and-connected Daddy Joe to write his plea deal for him.

    Posted in: Kennedy remembered for 'dream he kept alive'

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    WhiteHawk

    Not self-righteous, just right. As in correct.

    A quick google of "kennedy blocks wind farm" brought up articles on the very first page from both UPI and -gasp- The Boston Globe.

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2006/04/30/Kennedy-tries-to-block-Cape-Cod-wind-farm/UPI-49571146434349/

    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/04/27/kennedyfacesfightoncape_wind/

    Wow, that was easy. Ready for more? Or do you want to waste some time trying to claim that those sources are members of the far-right-attack-machine/blogosphere? I mean, if you're going to waste time trying to insult me, you might as well...

    Of course I've got failings. Never claimed I didn't. But neither have I left anybody for dead, or ran for office on ideals I had no intention of adhering to myself. So put aside your deflection-clothed strawman and get back to debating my points. If you can.

    Posted in: Kennedy remembered for 'dream he kept alive'

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    WhiteHawk

    buddha4brains:

    Finally, did you write that yourself or did you just cut [and] paste someone else's idea?

    Naturally, you try to insult me instead of trying to prove my points wrong. I wrote that myself, and have been writing it on almost every Teddy thread on JT. That's okay, you don't have to tell me why you doubted my originality. You've made it plenty clear in the past what you think of right-wing conservatives.

    I said "naturally" because, just like every other time I've written it, I've become the target of the Kennedy-defenders instead of my points. Either I get insulted, or the Defenders of the Camelot Myth abandon the thread and wait for the next day's JT thread on Teddy. The Defenders have yet to take the option of debating my points... because they can't. They know I'm right. Most of them knew Kennedy was a fraud when he was alive, too, but never cared because the agenda comes first with the Moral Relativity crowd. So, since they can't make any case about him not being a fraud, it's pile on WhiteHawk.

    That's okay, I can take it. ;)

    PS: When I do quote someone, as I quoted Mark Steyn in another recent Teddy thread, I always make it clear that I'm quoting and note the source.

    plasticmonkey:

    Perhaps you could show some respect for the family and fellow politicians who mourn him, including GW Bush, in attendance at the funeral.

    I haven't watched the cannonization of "Saint Teddy the Lion". Has the Kopechne family been there to pay their respects?

    smithinjapan:

    I'd like to see them all come together and form some sort of foundation for the woman -- since they so care about her and all.

    Shouldn't that have been Teddy's job? Instead of telling Chappaquiddick jokes? Or maybe you just want to follow the pattern of everybody else always having to clean up after Teddy.

    Posted in: Kennedy remembered for 'dream he kept alive'

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    WhiteHawk

    And that's all it was: A dream. An empty dream of empty promises sold to voters using ideals he never intended to live up to.

    Public schools for your kids, private schools for his.

    Environmentalism in your backyard, but not in his sailing waters.

    Higher taxes on bonus and inheritances, but he kept loopholes for his and his family's tax-sheltered wealth.

    Tough on Big Oil, but loopholes for the segment the Kennedy family was invested in.

    If he were only a hypocrite, he wouldn't stand out that much from other politicans. But Teddy Kennedy was more than that. He was a fraud. That a lot of people were suckered by him only makes him a successful fraud, not less of one.

    Posted in: Kennedy remembered for 'dream he kept alive'

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    WhiteHawk

    seijichuudo9sha:

    A luminary at the Huffington Post wrote that for all we know Mary Jo Kopechne,who was a good liberal,a civil rights worker, and a RFK volunteer,might be proud that her death arguably became a catalyst for the most successful Senate career in history.

    "Luminary"? That's a bit strong, don't you think? I don't think I would refer to HP's Melissa Lafsky as a "luminary".

    I like how Mark Steyn prefaced her desperate attempt to justify a manslaughter other Leftists have spent the past four decades trying to trivialize: I don't know how many lives the senator changed – he certainly changed Mary Jo's – but you're struck less by the precise arithmetic than by the basic equation: How many changed lives justify leaving a human being struggling for breath for up to five hours pressed up against the window in a small, shrinking air pocket in Teddy's Oldsmobile? If the senator had managed to change the lives of even more Americans, would it have been OK to leave a couple more broads down there?

    Seijichuudo, you've made some desperate attempts to paint Teddy in a good light. Suggesting that Kennedy telling jokes about his leaving a woman to drown was an appealing trait; repeating a fawning member of the media's quote comparing the nation's worst terrorist attack to the death of a senator; and repeating another fawning member of the media's bizarre attempt to validate the manslaughter of - and cowardly attempt to cover up - Mary Jo Kopechne. Perhaps you need to sit down and ask yourself just why you're going to such drastic (and disturbing, and wrong) measures to cannonize someone who clearly does not deserve such mercy, and would only exploit if he were still around to do so (don't worry, his party will pick it up from there and run with it). Seriously.

    goodDonkey:

    RomeoRamen is just ----ed...

    He might be ----ed, but he's also right. Teddy Kennedy was a drunken spoiled rich kid. He grew into a drunken spoiled rich bully of an adult. Instead of trying to insult RomeoRamen, perhaps you should put your energy into proving his points wrong?

    Posted in: Political luminaries to pay tribute to Kennedy

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    WhiteHawk

    lostrune2:

    The court showed him some compassion.

    Well the court's compassion was misplaced, wasn't it?

    Posted in: Horror story emerges after woman kidnapped as child resurfaces 18 years later

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