Thursday February 16, 2012

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    WhiteHawk

    So, you are calling a Obama a liar based on this kind of hearsay?

    Calling Obama a liar based on the documented tactics of his Illinois senate race alone is sufficient.

    From one of the biggest dirtbags on the airwaves?

    Why is Boortz "one of the biggest dirtbags on the airwaves"? Does Rhandi Rhodes rank as a bigger dirtbag in your book?

    Personally, I think most Americans would love to learn of Palin's response in the 2006 Alaska governor's debate when she hoped that, in the event her then-16-year-old daughter was raped, she would carry and give birth to the rapist's child. Moreover, that if she had things her way, ANY woman who was raped would be FORCED to give birth. But, as those who are familiar with Boortz knows, he will not allow discussion of this topic.

    Boortz never discusses abortion, ever. If you weren't so busy removing the context from every argument you disagree with, you would know that.

    But hey, if you want to talk abortion, I'm okay with that. We can discuss Obama's opposition to the Born Alive Protection Act, and his opposition to having a doctor present to provide care for babies that survived abortion attempts, positions that are too extreme even for NARAL to support.

    What can't be allowed to happen is for the enemies of truth like this WhiteHawk to define and judge what Obama really means by "different."

    Enemies of your "truth". Sure, we'll just let Obama define his "change" after the fact. The old "move the goal posts after the game" tactic you and adaydream regularly employ.

    Posted in: Obama accuses Republican rivals of dishonesty

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    WhiteHawk

    adaydream, you're only proving my point - that there is your "truth", and then there is the whole truth. You can omit the context all you want (you must bitterly cling to your agenda, after all), but the whole truth is that Palin was reducing both the number and amount of earmarks just as she promised during her gubernatorial campaign. Period. There's no way you can spin out of that.

    Yes, Alaska kept the money that Obama and Biden voted for. Alaska did still have to find some solution for the people on the island, even if it was with only a tenth of the funding sought by Stevens.

    Remember when Pelosi promised a transparent congress with less corruption, and to "do something" about earmark soending? Oops.

    Remember when Obama promised a "new, different" kind of politics? Again, thanks to Boortz:

    He sent his campaign workers to the voter registrar's office and kept them there until they had managed to disqualify everyone running against him.

    Now the word is that Obama has sent dozens – who knows how many operatives – to Alaska to work 24/7 on digging up some dirt on Sarah Palin.

    But Obama who says it's McCain and Palin who are being dishonest? Obama's the biggest liar and fraud running for this office since Al Gore.

    Posted in: Obama accuses Republican rivals of dishonesty

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    WhiteHawk

    adaydream:

    McCain's earmark Queen Gov. Palin < :-)

    John bush would make earmarks and their authors/receivers famous? He chose the earmark Princess as his running mate. < :-)

    John bush and Sarah Palin want your votes but they don't want to own up to the truth. Somebody ask for lies make by republican/McCain and Palin. Then do a little searching on your own. It's easy to find. < :-)

    As usual, adaydream, there is your "truth", and then there is the whole truth. From libertarian Boortz:

    When it comes to Sarah Palin, we've been through the specifics on this Bridge to Nowhere cr-p. In fact, the Democrat Party in Alaska acknowledges that it was Sarah Palin who finally scrapped the bridge. That website, by the way, disappeared for a while, until pressured to re-post the page (which they did, only at a different address). But just as a little side note ... guess who DID vote for the Bridge to Nowhere. Barack Obama and Joe Biden. Why doesn't the media bring THAT to your attention. Even when given a second chance to shift the funds to Katrina relief programs, Obama and Biden still voted for the Bridge to Nowhere. While John McCain did not end up voting on the amendment, he is on record opposing the earmark.

    When it comes to Sarah Palin's record of reform ... let's just look at earmarks, since this is something that Palin and her Senate opponents have in common. Before Sarah Palin's time as governor, the state of Alaska used to request over 100 earmarks each year to be secured by Alaska's congressional delegation. When it came time for Sarah Palin to request her earmarks for the first time as governor ... she slashed that number by half, requesting 54 earmarks. The next year, Palin cut that number AGAIN down to just 31 earmarks. Of those 31 earmarks, 27 of these are continuous or were previously appropriated. When Palin entered the governor's office, the total amount of quests averaged $550 million a year. That number has been reduced to less than $200 million now that Palin is in office. And it would only continue to decline. One of Palin's stated goals as Governor is to ask Congress for no more than a dozen earmarks for her state. On top of all that, Palin insisted that each earmark requested by the state of Alaska demonstrate an important federal purpose and public support. Whenever possible, Palin wants to have earmarks only if they can be matched by state or local budgets. And her administration is currently re-examining previous decisions on transportation earmarks ... the Alaska Department of Transportation is conducting an audit to determine the status of every single one of its recent earmarks.

    Let's go ahead and take a look at Barack Obama's earmarks in the Senate. In just three years, Barack Obama has requested over 300 earmark projects totaling $740 million. For the 2008 fiscal year alone, Obama requested 112 earmarks. Sarah Palin? 31.

    Betzee:

    You can look into these matters yourself if they were given short shrift by your favorite media outlets, Whitehawk.

    I have. That's why I'm questioning why you're clinging to them.

    Judiasm is compatible with intellectual pursuits. Indeed, Jews are overrepresented in almost every field requiring education.

    Like I said, no argument there.

    Sarah Palin is not going to win McCain many votes within the American Jewish community. Joseph Lieberman, by contrast, would have given him an edge in Florida.

    ...and loose the staunch conservative vote. Sacrifice the country to gain one state? Brilliant. Obama could've picked Clinton for his running mate (not too late, you know) and this race would've been over. Why didn't he? Sexism, perhaps? ;-)

    By the way, you still didn't answer my question - Why does the Jewish community vote for a party that consistently sides with Israel's enemies?

    jwillis79:

    There was a political race in Tennesse about a decade ago where the African-American candidate was far superior but still lost.

    Are you referring to Harold Ford Jr's 2006 senate race? If not, which contest are you referring to? If you are, HF Jr is from the "Memphis Mafia", the hyper-corrupt Ford political crime family. He was anything but "superior".

    Betzee:

    There's two factors which weigh in Obama's favor to overcome residual racism.

    Oh, the race card, I'm scared! Look, if right-leaning people voted for ultra-left Obama because he is considered black, that would be racism. Right-leaning people not voting for ultra-left Obama -despite decades of having "white guilt" thrown at them- is not racism.

    Haven't any race-sensitive leftists/liberals noticed how blacks can openly say they're voting for a black candidate only because he's black, Hispanics/Latinos can do the same for Hispanic/Latino candidates, but if whites say anything similar about white candidates, they're automatically labeled racists? So much for equality, eh? I thought all racists were created equal. :-)

    Posted in: Obama accuses Republican rivals of dishonesty

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    WhiteHawk

    Betzee:

    As for your belief that Palin would help McCain with NY Jews, dream on. New York is not even in play. Palin may get McCain Ohio, which has a strong evangelical community in the south, but her presence on the ticket will likely harm him in Florida where Jewish voters are a bloc to be courted. Simply put, they are a highly literate bloc and have no doubt been apprised of her pastor's connections to Jews for Jesus, the founder of which preached to a congregation which included the Palin family.

    If the Jewish community is highly literate (no argument there), then why do most of them vote for a party that consistently sides with Israel's enemies?

    I know why one friend of mine does: He's a trial lawyer. As for the one that's a structural engineer, I've to have the chance to ask him.

    Aligning Palin with a one-time guest preacher? Saying it's worse than sitting Wright's church for 20 years? Vague hints of "book banning"? I thought this sort of thing was beneath you Betzee.

    Posted in: Obama accuses Republican rivals of dishonesty

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    WhiteHawk

    Alinsky4prez:

    Barack's past is an open book, except for the stuff he has to keep from the haters, and the swift-boaters.

    Did you mean for that to be funny?

    Posted in: Groups warn of growing U.S. government secrecy

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    WhiteHawk

    We had it in Iraq too. What, you thought every single soldier was an American?

    Posted in: Bush to pull 8,000 U.S. troops from Iraq

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    WhiteHawk

    Still campaigning against Bush? Good luck with that. Shame you can't concentrate on your own candidate's record of "change". Or honesty. Or integrity. Or reform. Or accountability. Or experience. Or decisiveness.

    But he can charm chickens into voting for Colonel Sanders, can't he? Someone out there is a pyramid scheme missing its pitch-man.

    Posted in: Obama accuses Republican rivals of dishonesty

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    WhiteHawk

    JoeBigs:

    Way to go you two, they never heard the old saying,"Never fight a land battle in Asia".........Or my favorite one,"Never fight a two front war"

    Like fighting Germany and Japan at the same time?

    Posted in: Bush to pull 8,000 U.S. troops from Iraq

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    WhiteHawk

    SuperLib:

    Is if fair to say that George Bush's plan to reduce the number of troops in Iraq has been met with criticism from the Left? That's politics for ya, I suppose....

    Just more proof that the further left someone goes, the more impossible they will be to please.

    The Left's changing posistions on the war, both inside and outside of congress, has been comical. When Rumsfeld was trying to make progress using the least number of troops he thought possible, left-wing critics in and out of congress were calling for more troops to be sent to get the war over quicker. Once Rumsfeld was replaced, McCain pushed for the surge, and Bush finally agreed, that same faction of the Left suddenly changed their minds and declared that increasing troop levels would only get more soldiers killed (ironically, Rumsfeld's previous argument for not raising levels). Now that the surge they were for-before-they-were-against has succeeded, they try to give credit to anybody but the troops, as that would send credit back to Bush and even McCain.

    It's called spinning themselves into a corner. Nice.

    Posted in: Bush to pull 8,000 U.S. troops from Iraq

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    WhiteHawk

    I don't think it's a good idea for Obama to accuse anyone else of dishonesty. Glass houses, rocks, all that.

    "You can’t just recreate yourself. You can’t just reinvent yourself."

    You should know, Senator Change. Say, still having your Annenburg records redacted?

    Posted in: Obama accuses Republican rivals of dishonesty

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    WhiteHawk

    I'm still not going to vote for McCain/Palin, but I enjoying hearing the points. < :-)

    Of course, just as I never vote for Socialists, Communists, Marxists, or any other Leftists.

    I will confess that I skipped Obama's speech. If you've heard one "chicken-in-every pot"/"hug-for-every-dictator-and-terrorist" speech, you've heard them all.

    Posted in: ABC News' Gibson lands first Palin interview

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    WhiteHawk

    "Slacker Uprising"? Must be a documentary about Obama riding the Chicago political machine to power.

    Posted in: Michael Moore to release new film online for free

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    WhiteHawk

    jerseyboy:

    Makes you wonder why they have kept her under wraps since the convention?

    Under wraps? She's been out on the campaign trail. You make it sound like she was on "vacation" (teleprompter rehab) in Hawaii or something.

    And now they only agree to a tightly-controlled situation.

    How long did it take Obama to appear on Fox? Obama's campaign even picked the night it would air (McCain's speech).

    Bet she and the Republican brain-trust are very nervous.

    Hardly. This is the woman who took on her own party in Alaska.

    tkoind2:

    He bulldog on the attack act at the convention sold well with the faithful GOP members but fell flat with the rest of the country.

    The "faithful GOP' is exactly who McCain had to reach out to, after his support of amnesty for illegal aliens, among other things. And Palin's speech actually worked with moderates and independents: http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=36ee8fde-58bf-4027-a75b-b29d86b66b92

    It just didn't work on leftists who thought they owned the female vote, and that all women want abortions.

    Alaska represents the whole of America in the same way some remote part of Hokkaido represents the whole of Japan.

    ...or a certain "church" in Chicago or a pachinko parlor in Tokyo.

    Alinsky4prez:

    I admire Stephanapoulos most. Obama accidentally said 'my Muslim faith' in an interview the other day and George quickly reminded him that he is in fact a Christian.

    If you can believe that what Wright preaches is Christianity...

    adaydream:

    I want to hear what she says without a handler giving her scripted remarks. < :-)

    You should've watched her convention speech then. The teleprompter broke. You've seen what happens when the same happens to Obama, right?

    Posted in: ABC News' Gibson lands first Palin interview

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    WhiteHawk

    Funny that such a blindly left-wing partisan such as adaydream would lecture anybody about what a "true Republican" is. Paul is a Libertarian.

    Please try not to divert the thread. Besides, I've already listed many occasions when McCain opposed Bush on other threads. Since you and jwillis79, DanManjt and several others insist on chanting the "McCain voted with Bush ##% of the time" mantra after I've posted evidence proving you wrong, what's the point? You're just going to keep repeating the same unfounded talking points on every thread that comes up. Such repetition doesn't mean you're right, it just means you're stubborn.

    More big oil tax cuts.

    Hahahaha, don't tell me you don't know about Obama voting for subsidies for oil companies!

    Posted in: McCain takes on Bush, GOP along with Obama

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    WhiteHawk

    If you drift back a few more years I'm sure you can find references even older that you had before.

    Which would only further prove you wrong. Look, you tried to claim that Obama talked about change first, you were proven wrong, and then you tried to limit examples to just this election. Buh-bye.

    We had a president who had Alzhiemer's while in office? When?

    Besides, Obama has to know something before he can forget it. Every time he speaks without a script on a teleprompter, he shows how little he has to forget.

    Posted in: McCain, Obama grapple over mantle of change

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    WhiteHawk

    Nah, not moving the goal posts. Just defining them.

    No, you're trying to limit your debate opponent's ability to prove you wrong. It's a nasty habit of yours, and doesn't mean you're right, it just that you're controlling. You've been proven wrong by both me and a fellow Obama supporter, and he exposed your pathological partisanship in the process. No wonder you're being so snarky: You've been backed into a corner and wounded.

    Like I said, McCain's so old you could find things to refer back to him 25 years ago I'm sure.

    You say that like it's a bad thing.

    Posted in: McCain, Obama grapple over mantle of change

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    WhiteHawk

    jwillis79:

    How about you defend Palin and her husband's support of the AIP.

    Easy. There is no evidence, even on Kos where people make up anything they want, that Sarah Palin ever supported secession.

    How about you defend Palin wanting to everyone to leave her daughter alone and allow her to make a her own choice about keeping her baby. Yet, she wants to make it a law that no other woman in the country should have that right.

    She can want all she wants, but congress will be controlled by a Democrat majority during McCain's term, so even if she becomes president, any Supreme Court nominee that agrees with her would never make it through the nomination process. I doubt such a judge would even make it past a Republican-controlled congress, for that matter.

    Why don't you defend Guilani, Palin and McCain who ridicule people for being community leaders and trying to make a difference.

    Because Obama's idea of a community organizer consisted of association with a unrepentent domestic terrorist in a group that had no definitive purpose and no accountability, a group infamous for voter fraud, and something that resembled a youth corps like one in Germany back in the 30's and 40's.

    Didn't McCain say in his acceptance speech people should get out and volunteer and help America?

    Yes. But he said it doesn't qualify someone to be president.

    Why don't you defend Palin's claim she has Foreign Policy Experience simply based on the fact Alaska is close to Russia.

    Why is foreign policy experience only questioned when it's a Republican governor? Why didn't I hear such questions about a governor from Arkansas, a governor from Georgia, or a Senator from Illinois? Why has it just been when it's a governor of Texas or Alaska?

    Posted in: Palin mocks Obama as McCain claims nomination

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    WhiteHawk

    adaydream:

    Well WhiteHawk, I was refering to this election. McCain's so old you could find things to refer back to him 25 years ago I'm sure. This election. < :-)

    DanManjt:

    John McCain voted with President Bush 95 percent of the time in 2007 and 100 percent of the time in 2008 -- that's no maverick.

    Looks like some people can't see outside their lifetimes. :-P

    aday, moving the goal posts again.

    Posted in: McCain, Obama grapple over mantle of change

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    WhiteHawk

    Hey goodDonkey, still want to defend Wooten?

    http://www.adn.com/politics/story/476430.html

    Posted in: Palin mocks Obama as McCain claims nomination

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    WhiteHawk

    adaydream:

    WhiteHawk - This is the first time that McCain is connected to change.

    Sorry old buddy, but CavemanLawyer already beat you at 09:47. He's an Obama supporter that can admit when the candidate he supports isn't perfect and when the other candidate isn't perfectly evil.

    You can't grow as a person unless you push yourself, a.d.d.

    Posted in: McCain, Obama grapple over mantle of change

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