Thursday February 16, 2012

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    WhiteHawk

    RomeoRamenII:

    So, to recap: The rookie Illinois senator has tarnished his carefully honed image as a different kind of politician — one who means what he says and says what he means — while undercutting his call for "a new kind of politics."

    Barack Obama (4 Nov 04):

    I was elected yesterday. I have never set foot in the U.S. Senate. I've never worked in Washington. And the notion that somehow I'm immediately going to start running for higher office just doesn't make sense. So look, I can unequivocally say I will not be running for national office in four years.

    We all know how that one turned out.

    Obama said he could no more disown Jeremiah Wright than he could disown his own grandmother, who -like a typical white person- was afraid of aggressive panhandlers.

    And then he disowned Jeremiah Wright.

    Obama promised his potential voters that he would pull out of Iraq unconditionally within 16 months.

    And then he told Hoshyar Zebari, "if there would be a Democratic administration, it will not take any irresponsible, reckless, sudden decisions or action to endanger your gains, your achievements, your stability or security. Whatever decision he will reach will be made through close consultation with the Iraqi government and U.S. military commanders in the field."

    How is that different from McCain? It's not, unless you misrepresent McCain's words, as at least one poster on JT insists on doing.

    Obama said he would he would meet with Iran's president and mullah leaders unconditionally.

    And then he insisted on a list of conditions before he would meet John McCain in a single unscripted townhall-style debate.

    And now the flip-flop on campaign financing.

    Oh, and this "change" thing? Did anyone see his team of foreign policy advisors? A team of Clinton administration flunkies led by Madeline Albright.

    Obama's faithful believers will never admit they've been hoodwinked by the same-old-same-old (I mean really, has anything good ever come from Chicago's Democrat politics?), but it's not like they care. To them, it's all about voting against the Republican. "Oooo, take that, George Bush!"

    A new kind of politics, indeed. Right, RR?

    Posted in: Obama says he won't take public campaign funds

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    WhiteHawk

    Ah yes, it's the volunteers who were "zealots". Such is the pattern. Nothing was ever Carter's or Clinton's fault either. There was always some underling to take the heat.

    You want to see zealots? Take a closer look at these poor "victimized" Muslim women: http://boortz.com/nuze/200806/06202008.html#truth

    Posted in: Muslim woman said she could not sit behind Obama at rally because of head scarf

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    WhiteHawk

    ...and you know more about what's going on in Iraq than Zebari. Riiiiiight. How? From watching Olberman and Matthews?

    By the way, you obviously didn't notice this, but even Obama won't follow your adivce, according to his promise to Zebari:

    Barack Obama:

    ...if there would be a Democratic administration, it will not take any irresponsible, reckless, sudden decisions or action to endanger your gains, your achievements, your stability or security. Whatever decision he will reach will be made through close consultation with the Iraqi government and U.S. military commanders in the field.

    Posted in: Obama, amid criticism from McCain, says he will visit Iraq

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    WhiteHawk

    Zebari told Obama (who agrees with you) that a precipitous withdrawal “would create a huge vacuum and undo all the gains and achievements. And the others” - enemies of the United States - “would celebrate.”

    Sounds like your take would be adjusted if you traveled with Obama to meet Zebari yourself. Have a nice flight.

    Posted in: Obama, amid criticism from McCain, says he will visit Iraq

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    WhiteHawk

    One of the women, Hebba Aref, is a 25-year-old lawyer (little surprise since the DNC is the party of attorneys). Oh man, Obama's crew made the mistake of ticking off an attorney, and one fresh out of law school at that!

    Another report I heard said she contacted CAIR and complained to them about her treatment. I wonder how that phone call went.

    It'll all die down, since CAIR wants Obama elected. No, not for his rumored background, but for his foreign policy expertise. (Yes, I'm being sarcastic.)

    Posted in: Muslim woman said she could not sit behind Obama at rally because of head scarf

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    WhiteHawk

    USAFdude:

    How refreshing to hear intelligent discussion about taking down Osama bin Laden. How wonderful to know that President of the United States Barack Obama will be our CinC in less than a year!

    That's odd. Just 24 hours ago, you were railing against Bush for not having hanged bin Laden by now (which would make him a martyr), and today you're praising Obama for saying he wouldn't hang bin Laden.

    Oh wait, you were just practicing liberal doublespeak, and there's nothing odd about that.

    Posted in: Obama says bin Laden must not be a martyr

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    WhiteHawk

    Sarge, that's true, but I've adapted to that. Also, I like being able to preview my post and correct any format or spelling errors before posting.

    Not that I'm always successful...

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    WhiteHawk

    I like the redesign. Not only do we now have bold and italic options to add life to our posts, but the website actually works! The main reason I quit JT before was the frustration over the site being sooooo slow, when it worked at all.

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    WhiteHawk

    You really seem to believe that George Soros paid for the survey, and by so doing, told the researchers not to conduct an honest survey. Do you actually expect others to be as gullible as you have chosen to be?

    Name a single act or group that Soros has funded that doesn't serve his agenda. He wouldn't "invest" his money on anything that didn't produce results in his favor. Trying to portray him in any other way is like trying to portray Saddam Hussein as a "harmless ol' coot". It's not a matter of gullibilty, but rather of your own deliberate ignorance.

    What is it specifically about the methodology used by the researchers at Johns Hopkins that you find so wrong?

    Taking samples from selected areas and then extrapolating them across the entire country is a technique that only works when that country is consistent in all areas. It's also ripe for manipulation. Imagine taking an election poll on the UC Berkeley campus and extrapolating it for the entire U.S. On the surface of the results, you would get the impression that Barack Obama could expect 98% of the vote in November.

    on the other hand, I've caught Bush and his crew in PLENTY of them.

    Really? Are those the same "lies" told by Democrats prior to Bush's inauguration? Funny how you and Alan always cry out about "Bush's lies", but always -always- ignore my above point.

    Posted in: Iraqi violence down

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    WhiteHawk

    Depending on the sourses used the count goes from 40,000 to 600,000.

    Well there ya go. ;)

    I don't keep the counts and the DOD says they quit counting deaths of Iraqis in May 2003 because the count was growing too many too fast. < :-)

    And yet, just a few hours ago, you claimed a number. Still, don't you think it's odd that a Soros-funded "survey" claimed exponentionally increasing fatality statics while violence was actually on the decrease?

    Posted in: Iraqi violence down

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    WhiteHawk

    yabits:

    The number given, 654,965, is only speculative because the researchers cannot claim an exact number. Applying a 10-20% error rate to it still provides a result over a half-million who died on account of the US invasion.

    Oh, it's speculative all right. And which group offered the original speculation? Lancet. Nonbiased? Complete BS. Nothing funded by George Soros is ever "nonbiased". And it's how many times higher than any other estimation? Have there been any critical reviews of Lancet's work? Yes:

    http://www.fumento.com/military/lancet2008.html

    http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2007/07/davidkaneonlancetconfidenc.php

    Posted in: Iraqi violence down

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    WhiteHawk

    But John McCain, being the avid war supporter doesn't want this war to end.

    No matter how you spin it, that's a misrepresentation of McCain's words. Period. No amount of your backpedaling or re-writing can change that.

    Why should I go to Iraq? You go if you like.

    I'm too old to enlist, but my company is considering doing work there (as well as other areas in the M.E. I'll let you know if an opportunity comes up. What's your specialty?

    As for why you (and Obama) should go to Iraq, it's so you can see for yourself what is going on there, instead of getting your talking points from Jack Murtha. Say, how did his claims about Haditha pan out?

    I've talked to enough vets who have returned from recent tours, and not a single one has shared anything resembling your perspective on their mission.

    Posted in: Obama, amid criticism from McCain, says he will visit Iraq

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    WhiteHawk

    adaydream:

    Sarge, prove me wrong. I don't need to apologize for my statement. < :-)

    Actually, since you're the one who made the claim, you have to back it up and prove it true.

    Posted in: Iraqi violence down

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    WhiteHawk

    But John McCain, being the avid war supporter doesn't want this war to end.

    You're misrepresenting (lying about) his position on the war. He wants it to end with the best possible result for both the U.S. and Iraq. That's common sense.

    Posted in: Obama, amid criticism from McCain, says he will visit Iraq

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    WhiteHawk

    You can believe anything you like. If you can't believe me, then how can you believe george bush. he's a proven bold faced liar.

    Obviously, you'll believe anything you want, as your "Bush lied" chant has been debunked so many times, you're becoming a parody every time you insist on clinging to it anyway.

    Perhaps you should accompany Obama on his trip to Iraq. I think you'll both learn quite a bit. Of course, you'll have to be more open-minded than you are at present.

    Posted in: Obama, amid criticism from McCain, says he will visit Iraq

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    WhiteHawk

    shimajiro:

    While I think it would have been much preferable for gay marriage to have been legalized via the ballot box rather than legislated from the bench the result is still to welcomed.

    GJP2006:

    Some rights should never be up to the ballot box and that is why we have a judiciary to balance state and citizen interests. Some of the most controversial racial and voting rights issues would never have been won at the ballot - it took courageous and bold justices to make the call.

    shimajiro:

    I disagree. The judiciary should interpet and apply the law as it was intended by the lawmakers, not as they might wish it to be.

    I think what happens in cases like this (and more and more frequently in the U.S.) is a blurring of the line between the judicial branch and the legislative branch of the government. Results and intentions aside, the judicial branch has definitely been overstepping its authority with increasing frequency.

    As OssanULTRA pointed out, there are still some details in need of sorting, and it will be intersting to watch it all unfold. I, for one, will be watching to see how these marriages are recognized by other states. No doubt the issue will get more media attention than my interest in having all of the other states recognize my Tennessee-issued Concealed Carry permit.

    Has anyone read the fine print of the California licenses? I'm just curious, because Taxachussetts requires the couples to be residents of the state, and Canada requires that at least one member from the couple live in Canada for a minimum of one year before a divorce can be processed.

    Posted in: Gay, lesbian couples rush to get married in California

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    WhiteHawk

    SezWho2:

    Fortunately for America, though, Obama is neither extremist nor Marxist.

    Just all of his friends are, is that it? Sorry pal, but Obama, the senator with the most liberal/leftist voting record, is a Marxist.

    Posted in: Gore endorses Obama

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    WhiteHawk

    JahDog:

    You know about information warfare, psyops by a government on its population, right? It's very old news, but: the administration promotes the talking point of the day, and the media duly report it.

    So, was Zebari using "psyops" on Obama during their phone conversation?

    Zebari:

    The foreign minister said "my message" to Mr. Obama "was very clear. . . . Really, we are making progress. I hope any actions you will take will not endanger this progress."

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/17/AR2008061702034.html

    JahDog:

    The "liberal" mainstream media is owned by ultra-conservatives billionaires.

    And FoxNews is owned by Murdoch, who is a regular DNC contributor. What you fail to see is that the liberal mainstream media is comprised of just that - liberals. To the tune of 93%. That's liberals doing the reporting, editing, interviews, and story selection. Those "ultra-conservative billionaires" bogeymen you allude to aren't spending their days and nights on the phone, barking orders to every journalist, reporter and editor working for their news outlets.

    Posted in: Iraqi violence down

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    WhiteHawk

    Jahdog:

    "Corner turned! Mission Accomplished!" say the Wingnuts. Yeah. Right.

    Pay attention. It's not the "Wingnuts" saying this, it's the Associated Press.

    Look at the bottom of the article (something of a novelty for JT):

    Robert H. Reid is the Associated Press chief of bureau in Baghdad and has reported from Iraq since 2003. AP correspondent Bushra Juhi contributed to this report.

    Or do you consider the AP to be part of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy / Bush Machine?

    Posted in: Iraqi violence down

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    WhiteHawk

    Why yes, the thought of left-wing extremist/Marxist becoming president is frightening to people who value the Constitution and Bill of Rights. What else would you expect?

    Posted in: Gore endorses Obama

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