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WhiteHawk
jason6:
Napalitano has already tried to do that, along with U.S. soldiers returning from the Middle East.
Posted in: Ariz investigators say there were warning signs on day of shooting
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WhiteHawk
I read several articles after doing a search, and found nothing to indicate that Davis is "right-wing", other than Bennett is a Democrat. All I saw on Davis was that he described himself as a schizophrenic, and that he complained about his social security benefits. As with Loughner, I think you're too eager to consider him as "right-wing" with so little to go on, and I think it would be interesting to find out why you do that.
But I'm glad you brought it up, because it highlights the difference in how authorities in Colorado handled Davis, and how Sheriff Dupnik handled Loughner. Reportedly, Dupnik has been talking victims of Loughner's threats out of filing charges, telling them he was getting mental health attention when he was not. Had Dupnik done his job as proscribed by Arizona law, Loughner would not have been able to legally buy a gun, and might have even been in jail or a mental institution where he couldn't shoot anyone.
For your benefit (and the benefit of the moderators), I want you to know know that what I'm about to write, I write with no malice in my heart, and no intention of ridicule at your expense:
I sincerely think you're searching for answers that aren't there as a means of coping with this atrocity. This is a horrible event, and it's difficult to keep ourselves from visualizing it in our mind's eye. The tragic and senseless loss of life, which could have been prevented, hits anyone with a conscience very hard. For me, the worst part is the death of that innocent 9-year-old girl. It makes me angry and sick, and brings me to tears just thinking about it.
The way you're reacting to this is nothing new. It's just how some people cope. We (as a society) have seen this after the deaths of JFK, RFK, MLK Jr., Lady Diana, as well as the Oklahoma City bombing, the 9/11 attacks, and many other tragic events. Some people try in vain to find sense in the senseless, and conspiracy theories (and Oliver Stone movies) care born. As a temporary means of coping, nobody can fault you for it. But please do take a step back from it after a while, okay? Hopefully a little time and some distance from this will help you find whatever it is you need to cope with this horrible and senseless atrocity.
Posted in: Ariz shooting suspect appears in court; Giffords responds to verbal commands
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WhiteHawk
Klein2:
I read a lot too. But there's huge a difference between reading or watching something and calling it one of your favorites. Loughner has called The Communist Manifesto, Mein Kampf, and Loose Change some of his favorite works. Tea Party folks just don't do that.
He had issues with grammar. I didn't miss that hint. Perhaps we should pass some "grammar control" legislation? It's not like the Generation Text crowd is using it anyway. (Sorry, couldn't help myself.)
I doubt it will make much sense to the sane.
I suspect we'll know that in time.
Posted in: Ariz shooting suspect appears in court; Giffords responds to verbal commands
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WhiteHawk
My apologies Moderator, I did not see the previous warning. Probably because I was on this page instead of the other one.
I apologize for the long posts. I will break them up in the future.
Posted in: Ariz shooting suspect appears in court; Giffords responds to verbal commands
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WhiteHawk
Molenir:
People who are determined to be a threat to themselves and/or others can be institutionalized against their will. A county Sheriff can certainly get the wheels in motion. Instead, it's coming out that Dupnik had been convincing those targeted by Loughner not to file complaints or press charges. Had they done so, Loughner would have had at least a restraining order against him, and would not have been able to legally buy a gun.
Taka313:
I suppose you thought it was classy when John Edwards used his wife's cancer as a fund-raising tool. While fathering a baby with his mistress.
I agree that it's not the best way to seek donations, but this part...
...is quite true. I'm surprised you posted it. So what are you going to say when Democrat PACs start using Loughner as a fund-raising tool? Because they will.
Klein2:
Really? Exactly how did his actions show that Loughner - who lists The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf as two his favorite books, Loose Change as one his favorite movies, and whose friends say he was "hard-left" - was affected by a campaign ad he likely didn't read? After all, if he saw the ad, why didn't he attend the event?
Seriously, your desperate cherry-picking is blatant and sad.
That event WAS a fundraiser.
Why did Moulitsas pull his bullseye ad that had Giffords on it too?
It's quite telling that you think she's the only one irresponsible.
Well, Loughner apparently believed what he wanted, so you believe what you want. The difference is... well there is no difference. You've already demonstrated that you will continue believing what you despite the lack of evidence to support and despite the evidence contradicting your beliefs.
And what's with your obsession with Jewish people? I haven't seen anywhere in the news that Giffords is Jewish, so how did you know that?
Through voting. And voting not diluted with SEIU election corruption, please. I've also seen calls for overthrowing the government - with violence, including the death of the president and vice-president. Those were at Leftist "peace" rallies in San Francisco, however.
Did he also compile a time-line of threat and actions made by ultra-left-wing groups? Violent actions not involving guns? Oh, that's right: According to the CtSGV, there is no violence without guns.
Coalition to Stop Gun Violence... yeah, no agenda there. No wonder you're refusing to consider that Loughner isn't a right-wing Tea Party-type.
Provide specific examples of "the right" threatening "second amendment remedies". And just when is the Left going to denounce ALL the violence that they have perpetrated?
Provide specific examples of the Tea Party acting like thugs. And in this case, it's better to do fact-checking than soul-searching.
Out of all the Tea Party rallies, the only incidence of violence has been a group of pro-Obama SEIU thugs beating up Kenneth Gladney. At a party for Bobby Jindal, a young couple wearing Palin buttons were attacked and savagely beaten (the young woman's leg was broken in five places) by Leftist demonstrators.
Congratulations, you now sound like Loughner.
Loughner has been obsessed with Giffords since at least 2007. You know what we didn't have in 2007? The Tea Party. You know what else? Nobody outside of Alaska knew who Sarah Palin was in 2007, which would in all likelihood include Loughner.
And now you're obsessed with Palin and the Tea Party. And Jewish people, for some odd reason. Would your neighbors describe you as a "troubled loner", by any chance?
manfromamerica:
And G20 rioters.
SuperLib:
I think we already have the answers. It's just that people are afraid of looking like "big meanies" for locking someone away.
Moderator: We have already asked you once to stop posting these long, rambling answers to multiple posters. You must also tone down your rhetoric because in some cases, you are being impolite to other posters. Consider this your final warning.
Posted in: Ariz shooting suspect appears in court; Giffords responds to verbal commands
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WhiteHawk
Taka313:
Why, because you hate her? Or because she points out the immoral, unethical and/or criminal behavior of Leftist politicians? because she points out the hateful rhetoric and violence promoted and practised on the Left? I knew at least one of the regular JT Leftists would attack the source (oh, there's that rhetoric again) when I posted a Malkin link. Thanks for being predictable. I'll bet you didn't even follow the link to see the very, very, VERY long article. You probably just saw her name and thought to yourself: "Malkin? I hate that ******* ****!" Speaking of hating Malkin, have you ever read her hate mail? Not only are Leftists hateful, threatening, racist bigots, they're also disgusting.
chotto:
Oh look, you found a strawman to play with! Have fun!
Madverts:
That probably could have been averted had Leftists not run to microphones within minutes - literally - of the shooting to blame Sarah Palin and the Tea Party. Within 20 minutes, news networks were referring to Sarah Palin's "target" ad. Not the DNC's or DailyKos' from the same election, only Palin's. Obsessive myopia anyone? Kos tweeted "Mission Accomplished, Sarah Palin". Markos Moulitas, the same creep who had his own "target" ad for Gifford's office. DailyKos, that same bastion of credibility where the Palin-birther conspiracy theory originated. Boehlert, Sullivan, several other Leftist tweeters and bloggers jumped on the groupthink gravy train as well. Within an hour, AZ Sen. Linda Lopez (D) went on Fox to blame the Tea Party and start the rumor that the shooter was an Afghan veteran. Hoping for the next McVeigh? (Except that McVeigh wasn't a right-winger either.)
Molenir:
Speaking hypothetically? Because putting a generic sight symbol (as seen in gunsights, survey equipment, design software,etc.) on a map for a district is one thing, but putting a person's picture in the target of a gunsight is an implied threat. The former is what happened, but the Leftists are trying to make it sound like it was the latter.
taiko666:
Because the Left wants it to. Desperately.
I raise a pint of ale in salute to you, sir.
Taka313:
Examples, please? And do be specific. Try to do a better job than runwithscissors.
As opposed to the JT Leftists who hate her so vehemently?
TheRat:
Calling for violence? Telling people to go out and shoot up churches and whatnot? Really?
Examples, please? And do be specific. Try to do a better job than runwithscissors.
Did you ever hear Randi Rhoads' show on Air America? Well, not many people did, frankly. Still, she used a gunshot sound effect when talking about shooting then-president Bush. Alec Baldwin went on late-night TV and said people should raid the house of a Henry Hyde and kill him and his family. Sen. John Kerry suggested on Bill Maher's show that he should "have gone to 1600 Pennsylvania and killed the real bird with one stone.”
But keep posting generalities about "right-wingers who stir up hate and violence", and I'll keep posting specific examples of Leftists doing exactly that.
Well you just keep waiting.
That's just sick.
Junnama:
You seem to be ignoring the evidence that Sarah Palin didn't influence the nutcase/stoner shooter.
USARonin:
Precisely. His obsession with Giffords predates anybody outside of Alaska hearing of Palin, predates the formation of the Tea Party, etc.
It's being reported now that he did make direct threats against a number of people in the area in recent years. School officials from his college, local politicians, etc. It turns out that Sheriff Dupnik (the same Democrat sheriff who refused to enforce Arizona's illegal immigration laws and who has been blaming "right-wing rhetoric" for the shooter's actions even though he admits he has no evidence to support that claim) had been convincing those targeted by Loughner not to file complaints. Interestingly, Loughner's mother works for the county too. Had Loughner been under a restraining order or charged with any crime of violence or threatening violence, he would not have been able to buy a gun legally. It just may turn out that the sheriff who is making political hay out of this could have prevented the whole thing by doing his job.
Junnama:
Yeah, no kidding. I suspect it's kind of difficult to be friends with a nutcase. Perhaps if we paid proper attention to loner nutcases...
Alphaape:
You noticed that too, eh? Within hours, it was already known that he was shouting "Allah Akbar" while shooting our soldiers. Perhaps it reveals just who the Left is afraid of (Islamophobia, anyone?), and who they really consider their enemy.
Junnama:
I'm a frequent gun user and I thought they looked like AutoCAD symbols. But hey, that's just me. None of my handguns have scopes.
ikkochan:
If that worked, Chicago and D.C. would be the safest cities in America. Instead, they are two of the most dangerous. And not by coincidence.
I suspect this has a lot more to do with a dangerous nutcase not being institutionalized like he should have been years ago.
Wasn't that to prevent a coup against his rule?
Taka313:
How?
Still waiting for your proof that this happened because of anything the right has done.
Ah, so you didn't go to Malkin's site and see the incredibly long list of specific events (with videos, no less!). I figured as much.
Junnama:
Obama is also an influential national figure, wouldn't you agree? Oh and look, he's the president! Maybe he should take the lead on this. And perhaps even lead by example, considering the heated and violent rhetoric he has used in recent years. (See my 05:21 PM post for the list.)
Moderator: Please tone down your rhetoric. And it is not necessary for you to reply to multiple posters, sentence by sentence. It makes your post too long.
Posted in: Arizona Rep Giffords shot, 6 killed, including judge, 9-year-old girl
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WhiteHawk
For runwithscissors, who continues to incorrectly believe that right-of-center people are more prone to violence than left-of-center people, Michelle Malkin has a quite long list of evidence of the violent history of the modern American Left on her blog. It's quite a list, especially considering it only covers the past ten years. Just imagine if she had kept listing back to the 60's?
michellemalkin /2011/01/10/the-progressive-climate-of-hate-an-illustrated-primer-2000-2010/
Posted in: Arizona Rep Giffords shot, 6 killed, including judge, 9-year-old girl
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WhiteHawk
I'll agree that you consider everything that remotely resembles a gunsight to be a gunsight even if proven otherwise. You've never looked through a gunsight before, have you?
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WhiteHawk
Laguna:
Almost 30 years. Never heard of the "Brady Bill"? Or when you said "reform", did you mean "ban"?
SolidariTea:
Because Fox reports news that rattles their precious little, narrow worldviews.
runwithscissors:
Considering your first posts on the previous thread...
nandakandamanda:
Yes indeed.
GJDailleult:
You mean like trying to affect a presidential election with bogus claims and falsified military records? Oh wait, that was CBS...
lostrune2:
I doubt there has ever been any balanced news.
McC72:
You should read threads before commenting on them. You were debunked before you even sat down to type.
Klein2, that was excellent post... right up until the last sentence. Although, since everyone on the Left is convinced that she is that powerful and influential over all Americans, left, right, and in between, then maybe she should lead the charge. Glad to know that you think she is a capable leader, and the kind of leader America needs now.
Junnama:
Just as you can look up surveyor's symbols. Funny how you want the public's perception to be the defining factor over symbols, but not definitions.
Madverts:
I never thought the Glock lived up to its hype. I arrived at a gun range one day just as an ambulance was pulling out. Someone was trying ammo they loaded themselves and their Glock basically exploded in their hands. Just one of the reasons I use factory ammo. And Sigs.
Klein2:
“They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun” “Get in Their Faces!” “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!” “Hit Back Twice As Hard” “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“ Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat” “It’s time to Fight for it.” “Punish your enemies.” “I’m itching for a fight.”
And now that it's coming out that he liked reading The Communist Manifesto and that his friends say he is left-wing, are you going to feel guilty about it?
By the way, he couldn't be anti-Semite and Tea Party affiliated. Not only does the American right-wing support Israel better than the Left, but anti-Semetic flyers are found at left-wing rallies and protests. Or did you not know that either?
She doesn't. She shows their districts as targets.
Yeah, as opposed to the DNC and Moulitsas, who are owning up to and apologizing for their bullseye target maps. Oh wait, they're not. Maybe because America Leftists in the media and on forums aren't holding their feet to the fire with the same fervor that they're going after Sarah Palin. Oh no, never mind that Democrats and left-wing activists have been using the same symbolism for years before Palin ever hit the national stage, must ignore that and make Palin carry all the guilt.
No, your point is that she's the only one irresponsible. Enough with the stupid pathological myopia already.
You might want to put that in context. According to everything I've seen so far, Lougher referred to the constitution we recognize as the "second constitution". In all likelihood, your quote above was referring to the Articles of Constitution, which Loughner viewed as the 'real" constitution.
Again, the Tea Party is neither anti-Semitic nor xenophobic. Stop projecting your ignorance and bigotry.
McVeigh wasn't a right-winger either. He was an anarchist who would have targeted Bush 41 as well.
Considering you don't know what a "typical right-wing" anything is...
Impressing Jodie Foster is a political motivation?
Posted in: Man due in court over Tucson shooting rampage
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WhiteHawk
runwithscissors:
Er...
skipthesong:
True, but first he has to be found mentally competent to stand trial, and then found guilty when he'll likely use an insanity defense.
Junnama:
Still trying to win a point, no matter how trivial, eh? I grant you that most people won't know a surveyor's symbol when they see one. But they certainly know a bullseye when they see one. Like the bullseyes used on multiple DNC campaign maps, DailyKos' pro-Democrat, anti-Republican campaign map, etc.
CraigHicks:
You mean "targeting Gifford's district", right? The one I saw didn't have a picture of Giffords herself (or anyone else) in the crosshairs.
And it still doesn't make a connection to this shooter.
PeaceWarrior"
Since his first shot resulted in a head wound, he probably considered her done. Most people don't survive head wounds.
Speaking of which, I wonder how the other wounded are doing. I haven't seen anything in the news about the conditions of the others, so does that mean that Giffrods is the only one in critical?
Indeed. Some people like to fool themselves into thinking that everything is preventable. But humans are complicated and can be quite random. The only genuine solution is to prepare yourself as best you can for life's randomness. But that's personal responsibility, which (again) some people are averse to.
Molenir:
Was that a rhetorical question? ;)
chotto:
No, just a strap that he put around my neck (he snuck up from behind me).
Ah yes, complain about the source. There are no "neutral" sources. Everybody reports with the same view they see the world through. Doesn't matter if it's the AP, CNN, NPR, Fox, etc. It's just human nature. Which goes back to my previous "long diatribe" about media bias. The proof of guns having good uses doesn't fit the left-wing media's template, so it doesn't get reported. But that doesn't change the fact that guns are proven to be effective self-defense tools. Fortunately, we still have multiple news sources in the U.S.
You mean like trying to connect a Palin ad with a Leftist shooter?
Have you been into Loughner's pot stash?
Madverts:
Oh lookie, you can paraphrase Tina Fey!
Posted in: Arizona Rep Giffords shot, 6 killed, including judge, 9-year-old girl
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WhiteHawk
runwithscissors:
What do any of them have to do with violent rhetoric? Limbaugh?!? Oh I see, you're just projecting your hatred. You hate them, so they must promote hate. Riiiiiight.
“They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”
“Get in Their Faces!”
“I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
“Hit Back Twice As Hard”
Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”
“It’s time to fight for it.”
“Punish your enemies.”
“I’m itching for a fight.”
...and that's just Barack Obama.
Project much?
Evidence? Or am I going to have to just take your word for it?
Which probably explains your hatred of him, and others in his line of work. ;)
HAHAHAHAHA!!! "I've heard my fellow Leftists rant about them so that's just as good as listening to them." I repeat: HAHAHAHAHA!!!
Phil Donahue? They must be easily rallied then. Phil makes me sleepy.
You must be too young to remember Truman's war in Korea, and Kennedy's (and later Johnson's) war in Vietnam.
Then you fail. I've listened to Limbaugh, read columns by Coulter (very funny stuff, if a bit snarky) and both listened to and watched Beck (he might be as crazy and/or as paranoid as Olbermann, but nowhere near as angry as MSNBC's star attraction). I've never seen any calls or even suggestions for violence. Can you say the same for the "church" Obama attended for 20 years?
It has to be one or the other? And what about his agreement or disagreement with the rabid punditry of Olbermann or DailyKos? Myopia much?
Say, what if this nutter never listened to Limbaugh, Beck or Coulter? That would kinda mess up your theory, huh?
And apparently, all you know is that anger and violent rhetoric only exist on the right, because you so consistently and willfully ignore the anger and violent rhetoric on the left.
For the record, I suspect the nutcase shooter didn't commit this atrocity because he was a Leftist, but rather because he's nuts. But he might have been more prone to violence thanks to his Leftist leanings. The Left has no room whatsoever trying to claim that right-of-center folks are more prone to violence when the long record of history proves just the opposite. Maybe one day you'll learn to accept that, runwithscissors.
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WhiteHawk
chotto:
Have you ever read my postings about the time someone tried to mug me? Long story short, I used my gun in self-defense successfully, and didn't even have to fire it, as is the case with many (if not most) incidents of armed self-defense in America.
No, self-defense is a basic human right. Probably the most basic and important one of all. Guns have been proven to be effective tools for self-defense many times. Just look for a website titled "The Armed Citizen". Hundreds of reports on there.
That depends greatly on the society.
So only the authorities (police and military) should have guns? Oh yeah, that worked great in 1930's Germany. /sarcasm
timthesocialist:
You really should try reading threads before posting on them. You were debunked before you ever typed a letter.
Giffords is not a Leftist, she is a moderate, "blue dog" Democrat and former Republican. The federal judge killed in this was a Republican appointed by president George W. Bush. Two of the shooter's favorite books were The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf, regular favorites of Left-wing anarchists. There have also been statements from multiple school friends of his that he is a radical Leftist.
skipthesong:
No, I'm just fed up with Leftists reflexively blaming everything violent on the Right, when Lee Harvey Oswald, Bill Ayers and the rest of his Weather Underground gang, Lynnette "Squeaky" Fromme, The Black Panthers, the Earth Liberation Front, John Wilkes Booth, Leon Frank Czolgosz, Sirhan Sirhan, Jim Jones, the Symbionese Liberation Army, and James Wenneker von Brunn were either left-leaning or full-blown radical Leftists with a capital "L". And that's only the short list! There's also Clay Duke, Joe Stack, David Guy McKay, Bradley Neal Crowder, the SEIU things who beat Kenneth Gladney, all the Leftists who committed acts of violence against those attending the 2008 Republican convention, etc., etc., etc.
Zurcronium:
You really should read threads before posting on them.
It's his own friends calling him a Leftist. Seriously, do you read anything but Kos?
Junnama:
I never pretended anything about the symbols, just pointing out that sailwind was technically correct.
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WhiteHawk
Madverts:
Blaming others for your own inability to express yourself? Did you and runwithscissors take the same English class?
But only Palin's crosshairs, and not Moulitsas' crosshairs (or one of his bloggers saying that Giffords is "dead" to them), is that right?
Could you be more partisan or myopic?
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WhiteHawk
The latest is that Giffords is able to communicate, albeit simply, and recognize her family. Doctors are optimistic, although cautiously noting that her recovery may well be a difficult one.
Also, the police are searching for a possible second suspect. Perhaps someone took the shooter under their wing and influenced him?
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WhiteHawk
Madverts:
Bristol Palin deserved death threats?!? Over a dance show?!? That's odd, I don't recall Bristol, Sarah, or any of the Palin family issuing death threats against anybody.
Posted in: Arizona Rep Giffords shot, 6 killed, including judge, 9-year-old girl
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WhiteHawk
Madverts,
Just as you weren't made aware of Moulitsas' bullseye ads, you haven't been made aware of the death threats against Sarah Palin, because they don't fit the left-wing media's template. JT won't let me post links, so I will just have to ask you to put your blinders down and look for:
fireandreamitchell /2010/03/25/left-wing-extremist-issues-death-threats-against-sarah-palin-tea-party-members-and-eric-cantor-on-twitter
You will likely complain that the source isn't Leftist-approved, like CNN, NPR, or the NYT. But that's my point: The left-leaning media (which is the majority of the news media) ignore whatever doesn't fit their own prejudice.
And while that same media couldn't ignore the death threats against Bristol Palin over her appearance on a "reality" TV show (No wonder there's not a single Democrat voter who doesn't think Sarah Palin said "I can see Russia from my house".), they didn't treat those threats with the same tone as they're treating her mother's ad from last year's election. Yet they can ignore a DailyKos bullseye ad run during the same election. Myopia, anyone?
Really? Ever watched coverage of a G20 riot? Ever read Michelle Malkin's hate mail? (Malkin had to move her family, you know, because of death threats. Yet she's never said or printed anything on the level of the venom that is directed at her.) Ever read the wishes for a slow and painful death from cancer that Laura Ingraham received?
You're not looking.
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WhiteHawk
Junnama:
I'm not surprised. But you knew about Palin's ad. And you don't stop to ask yourself why that is.
I'm seeing a pattern here, and it has to do with the obsession with Palin practiced by the left-of-center which populate the media. Groupthink, anyone?
Say, anybody remember the trouncing Palin got for her "Don't party like it's 1773 yet" tweet after the November elections? Or was it an FB post? In any case, Leftists all over the media pounced on her comment, ridiculing her and calling her stupid. Only they had to backtrack when it turned out that 1773 was the year of the Boston Tea Party and Palin knew her American history better than the media Leftists who ridiculed her.
Moulitsas participated in that one too. As did NPR mouthpiece and presidential debate moderator Gwen Ifill.
That was funny. Palin-haters and the like trying to link a Palin ad to yesterday's shooting in order to justify their prejudice isn't funny.
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WhiteHawk
Correction:
It wasn't Morkos Moulitsas (DailyKos) who wrote that Giffords was "dead to me", but rather a blogger named "BoyBlue" on his site. Still, Moulitsas did use bullseye targets on ads during the previous election, including a bullseye on Arizona.
That certain JT posters can only find enough room in their posts to bash Palin is... telling. And predictable, frankly.
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WhiteHawk
Junnama:
Except that intelligent (and sane) people know that Mickey Mouse is a cartoon.
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WhiteHawk
runwithscissors:
Stop blaming Mikehuntz for your posts and take responsibility for your own actions.
I've already told you why I haven't condemned his post. You just don't like my answer.
Using a gun in self-defense is a conservative position. Using a gun for a killing spree of innocent people is not a conservative position. Again, it's telling that you cannot see the difference.
Actually, it's because of all the loose criminals in America, armed or not. Despite all the gun laws, more criminals possess guns in America than probably any other country on Earth. (Ironically for anti-gun people, gun violence is the worst in cities where gun laws are the strictest, or gun bans have been in place for decades.) Not that they always need guns to commit crimes, like the guy who tried to mug me. The difference is, in America, private citizens in most states can arm themselves against those criminals.
Never heard of drunk driving? Hasn't marijuana use been shown to cause or increase paranoia?
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