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WhiteHawkJan. 10, 2011 - 01:56AM JST

nandakandamanda

Is anyone asking how someone like this was able to get a Glock with a 30-round mag?

I am; just haven't asked it here.

chotto:

Cretin. People who own firearms to use on other people are deragned. Simple.

When not in self-defense, yes.

Junnama:

I suggest you google or yahoo image search "gunsight symbol" and see how many of the images have crosshairs extending outside the circle radius.

That doesn't change the fact that gun scopes physically do not have crosshairs extending outside the circle.

Posted in: Arizona Rep Giffords shot, 6 killed, including judge, 9-year-old girl
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WhiteHawkJan. 10, 2011 - 01:51AM JST

Frungy:

Oh come one people, this isn't about gun control. Need I remind you that some nutcase in Akihabara managed to kill 7 people with knives a year and a half ago? Ban knives and they'll use vehicles. Ban vehicles and they'll use something else.

The bottom line is that this guy was mentally unstable and stuck in a society so uncaring that he never received the treatment he needed. If he'd been properly identified and institutionalised then this incident would never have happened.

An associate in Australia tells me that since their gun ban and confiscation, people use broken beer bottles. Makes a mass killing like this more difficult, but people are still being murdered by violent killers.

There once was a time when people like Loughner would have been institutionalized. But a Supreme Court ruling back in the 70's found that people could only be institutionalized if they proved to be a danger to themselves and others. The homeless population immediately skyrocketed as mental institutions were closed across the country. Enrollment at UC Berkeley went up, however. (Okay, just kidding about that last one!)

qazwsx:

Of course he's a wacko, but they get influenced by what they hear and see. He seems like many of those Tea Partiers-mixed up and confused about all different ideologies. Tea Partiers (certainly closer to Republicans on the Right) complaining about Democrat (Liberal) Obama's "Socialist" healthcare plan, while holding up posters of him with a Hitler mustache (Fascist), and hammer and sickles (Communism).

This is absolutely true, but the fact that Palin sent a tweet after healthcare reform asking her supporters to "don't retreat, reload", and included a link to her Facebook page which had a map of the USA with congressional districts that voted for Obama's reforms targeted with gun crosshairs (including Giffords') is absolutely abhorrent. And today she sends her condolences to the victims and their families.......

It's becoming more and more apparent that Loughner wasn't listening to Palin or anyone else on the right. Besides, Markos Moulitsas (DailyKos) also used a bullseye ad during the last election, including a bullseye on Arizona. If that's not enough for you, he also claimed "GIFFORDS IS DEAD TO ME" just two days before she was shot.

But then you only remember right-of-center people carrying protest signs of Obama with a Hitler mustache, and don't seem to remember the eight years of Leftists carrying protests signs of G.W. bush with a Hitler mustache. So there's probably no reaching you.

Do a bit of research, there have been many studies that show the majority of guns used by the cartels in Mexico come from the USA. Our lax laws allow guns to be sold then smuggled to Mexico

That's already been debunked.

Posted in: Arizona Rep Giffords shot, 6 killed, including judge, 9-year-old girl
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WhiteHawkJan. 09, 2011 - 03:32PM JST

How am I a hypocrite though WH? I said its not fair to say he represents either side. But it sure looks to me like he got his ideas from one side, and that is the problem.

You're kidding, right? No, of course you're not. You just say he's a "conservative" and a "rightist", then turn around and say you "would prefer that no one accuse him of being right or left." And you can't see your own hypocrisy. Additionally, you previously told me to "switch out of 'denial' mode". Which is exactly what you're stuck in. Now is that hypocrisy, or projection you're practicing? Hmmm...

I might be wrong about his "association" with conservatives. I don't mind, I will happily eat that mistake, simply because he represents neither side anyway.

So he's either associated with conservatives, or nobody at all. Gotcha. ;) It's not whether he represents anyone. It's what he has been influenced by, and you can't make the connection to conservatives or anyone on the right. I can, however, make the connection to the left. And already have made two connections.

...but to tar conservatives for their politics of death that may have influenced this nut and their double standards of association...

Except you have never made any connection between conservatives' "politics of death" (Excuse me? Which is the "abortion party"? Which is the "assisted suicide" party?) and this shooter's actions.

And also there was the point of making people see the falseness of the conservative medicine so often passed around this board.

And just what "falseness" is that?

But you don't you realize that by attacking my posts rather than those of Mikehuntz, you are just backing up many of the things I said about conservatives?

No, I'm proving you wrong for claiming Loughner is a "conservative" or a "rightist". That's all.

Smack him for shouting "LEFTY", not me for trying to shut him down. Or do you approve of his message?

The reason I haven't "attacked" him is because the evidence (so far) supports him and his claim that Loughner is a Leftist. Go back to my previous post and read that third paragraph again. Or rather, read it for the first time, since you seemed to skip it before writing your response.

Posted in: Arizona Rep Giffords shot, 6 killed, including judge, 9-year-old girl
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WhiteHawkJan. 09, 2011 - 02:56PM JST

What I am surprised about is your insistance that there can be no connection between that ad and the constant conservative position that killing is a necessary mode of justice.

Nice strawman. You're making that connection off of what, Sarge's comments that Loughner should get the death penalty if convicted? That Palin's ad had crosshair targets in it? Wow, that's flimsy. You're only seeing what you want to see because of your blind (and ill-informed) prejudice.

Just as you're trying to paint Loughner as a right-winger. How are you doing that? No, seriously, how are you justifying that to yourself? Let me hazard a guess: This was an act of violence. You think right-wingers are inherently violent. One of the high-profile victims is a Democrat. Since you're already prejudiced against anybody right-of-center, it's no trouble for you to ignore that Giffords is a "blue-dog", and is to the right of center on several issues. So for you, the circle of logic is complete.

Except that there's nothing coming out about this guy connecting him to the right. Two of his favorite books are Marx's Communist Manifesto and Hitler's Mein Kampf, two regulars on the reading lists of left-wingers and anarchists. One of his former classmates describes him in her tweets as "very liberal".

But then, I shouldn't be surprised that you can't differentiate between a death sentence for a convicted murderer and a crime of murder. You also probably can't differentiate between a criminal using a gun during a crime and a legal gun owner using a gun in self-defense (which I have done).

I would prefer that no one accuse him of being right or left.

But you've already said:

runwithscissors at 10:56 AM JST - 9th January

Posted in: Arizona Rep Giffords shot, 6 killed, including judge, 9-year-old girl
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WhiteHawkJan. 09, 2011 - 02:28PM JST

Should have read, "It makes for a much more police state."

You've never lived in a real police state, have you?

Posted in: Arizona Rep Giffords shot, 6 killed, including judge, 9-year-old girl
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WhiteHawkJan. 09, 2011 - 01:49PM JST

This isn't a tragedy, it's an atrocity. Five people killed, one being a 9-year-old girl. It's beyond awful for all those involved.

But I strongly suspect that those who are reflexively pinning this to Sarah Palin, the T.E.A. Party, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh or anybody else on the right (which, as I accurately figured, are the usual JT suspects), will have quite a bit of crow to eat as more is learned about Jared Loughner.

Other facts already established: Giffords is a moderate Democrat who supports border enforcement and a few other T.E.A. Party ideals. Judge John Roll was a Bush appointee.

I see that the Associated Press isn't changing its spots any time soon. The AP writer just had to mention Palin and her "target" ad. Again, I bet the "usual JT suspects" will be surprised to learn just how irrelevant that ad was to this horrible event.

Posted in: Arizona Rep Giffords shot, 6 killed, including judge, 9-year-old girl
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WhiteHawkDec. 21, 2010 - 06:41AM JST

No, Hotbox08, it just proves that you and your friends have never been mugged, assaulted, robbed, car-jacked, raped, etc. And my point isn't that "everybody needs a gun". My points are that people have an inalienable right to provide for their own defense, that guns are effective personal defense tools, and that America doesn't have "lax gun laws" but rather lax law enforcement.

I don't know if I'll ever need to defend myself again. In fact, I hope I don't. But the one time I did have to, I'm glad I was armed. So for the foreseeable future, I will remain armed. If you and your friends can afford to live in safe, secure areas where your safety is not at risk, consider yourselves blessed and don't take it for granted.

Posted in: Mother killed, 5 hurt in gunbattle at California mall
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WhiteHawkDec. 20, 2010 - 03:11AM JST

It seems my previous response was pulled by the mods for some reason or another, so I'll have to write everything again.

Zenny11:

South Africa, many of my friends that emmigrated to the states were very vocal that would rather walk unarmed through Central Park than down a road in SA.

Central Park is safer these days because a recent mayor decided it was time to enforce laws against criminal activity. What a concept: Going after bad people ended up reducing bad things being done with guns.

Different people have different opinions and experiences accept that.

I do. You're the one having trouble accepting the opinions and experiences of others.

If you get mugged in one of those areas and carry, guess what they will KILL you with your own gun.

If you say so, but this story (and the subsequent discussion) is about guns and crime in America. And here, the result is typically quite the opposite: (Well, I tried to post two articles from a Houston news station that recounted two stories of citizens using guns against armed robbers and killing them, in the same neighborhood, within two days time. But the great and wise JT automatic moderation software wouldn't let me post the links because they were "potentially offensive content". Oh well. On Friday in Houston, a jewelery store owner shot and killed three armed robbers. And the police are calling him a hero.)

I can find you hundreds more articles like that. If JT would just let me post the links...

And they are usually in a group of 3+ people = good luck becoming Dirty harry, etc while you are being restrained from behind.

In my previous response, I went into detail about my experience, and the experience of an acquaintance who was mugged in just the fashion you describe. Perhaps that is what got my post pulled by the mods? As I no longer have the email address I registered with, I don't know. To make it short, I was restrained from behind, albeit by a lone assailant, and had no trouble using my gun in self-defense.

Those muggers know guns better than you and fully know the limitations and how to use them.

Don't be ridiculous. I grew up hunting and shooting, having been carrying for many years, and have successfully used a gun in self-defense. By contrast, I see gang members or wannabes (like the ones in the original article) at the range on occasion. They hold their handguns sideways because they saw it done in a movie or rap video, don't hit a thing, and then are asked to leave by the RSO (range safety officer).

This is my point the upstanding citizen next to you might be right now braking the law in some way. If he carries are you going to ask him to show his licence, etc? Would the cops do?

Yes, the police do check for carry permits when they see that a citizen is armed. At least here in Tennessee they do.

BTW, most criminals will laugh at a citizen pulling a gun as most people(by nature) are reluctant to injure or kill someone, and neither trained to shoot straight or under stress.. Forget the bravado, etc.

I've asked you before about your experience with criminals, and you talked of other countries and cultures. My personal, direct experience here in the U.S. proves that you are completely wrong and thoroughly out of touch with the climate here.

A gun is an OFFENSIVE weapon and in 85% of all cases useless as a defensive one. Check with the police and military if you don"t believe me.

Much of my family is in the military, and I know quite a few policemen and detectives. You are utterly, completely wrong.

Like I said before the Lie that if I pull a gun it all goes away is just that a LIE.

Really? Worked for me just fine. The fact that I'm alive and writing this proves that you're wrong.

It's just fascinating that - far removed from the U.S. - you insist that American citizens improve their chances of surviving robberies - armed and otherwise - by being unarmed and defenseless. Just fascinating. In a bizarre, disturbed way.

Posted in: Mother killed, 5 hurt in gunbattle at California mall
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WhiteHawkDec. 16, 2010 - 03:42PM JST

Gun Control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound.

That description could also apply to sanctimonious hoplophobes. It's their mindset. Their fear of guns is so irrational, they mentally block out the fact that evil, violent people will use whatever tools they can. Physical strength, knives, your own clothing, and in my case, a simple nylon strap around my neck.

The people involved in this shooting used guns in an illegal manner, and in all likelihood, possessed the guns illegally to begin with. The laws were already in place. They just weren't enforced. That poor woman is dead because California has other priorities than enforcing its laws.

And not just laws concerning guns, but also laws concerning gang activity. In other articles about this event, several of the people involved are said to be gang members.

Also, one of shooters has died of his wounds. 20-year-old Marvion Barksdale.

Posted in: Mother killed, 5 hurt in gunbattle at California mall
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WhiteHawkDec. 16, 2010 - 03:28PM JST

Zenny11:

More than I care to recall. I used to carry a Gun for many Years as I lived in a [country] that makes the USA look safe.

Which country? And which part of the U.S.? And can you provide any statistical evidence that people who were confronted had a better chance of surviving by being unarmed?

manfromamerica:

Wow, that's quite an imagination you have! But a completely unrealistic situation.

You say imagination, I say paranoia. Either way, I suspect the only time cleo has ever seen a gun it's been on TV, or in the holster of a policeman or military personnel. Speaking of TV, Hollywood's penchant for stereotypes and over-dramatization seems to have her believing in myths.

cleo:

I would have said it's the Wild West mindset that has people thinking they need a gun to deal with 'confrontations' that's the problem.

What "Wild West mindset"? And what's your alternative solution?

Oh, and by the way, you're still wrong: "Wild West mindset" or not, if the laws were enforced, the overwhelmingly vast majority of gun crimes could not take place.

Plus the way a sizable section of the society seems to be being raised to believe that a gun is a legitimate conversation-stopper.

That must be a different section of society than the one I was raised in. But like I have said before, a gun has proven to me to be an effective confrontation-stopper.

Most of the rest of us get by OK in a world where we don't need to live in fear of these daily confrontations.

"Daily" confrontations? Who said they're being confronted daily?

How nice for you. Unfortunately, many people cannot afford to live in your neighborhood.

BTW, you're British, right? Are you claiming that there is no violence in Britain?

Posted in: Mother killed, 5 hurt in gunbattle at California mall
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WhiteHawkDec. 16, 2010 - 07:53AM JST

Zenny11:

But you are living a life of lies if you think that carrying a gun will protect you or make a difference if a real confrontation occurs.

And how many confrontations have you personally been involved in? Speaking as legal gun owner/carrier who has used a gun in self-defense, I can confidently say that you don't have the first clue, and are merely spreading lies you prefer to believe.

cleo:

Then again, if everyone was armed, only a person with a suicide wish would ever have the nerve to pull a gun, because everyone around would immediately shoot him dead just to be on the safe side.

Here's an idea: Walk into a gun store and point your gun at an employee. You'll be shot dead in seconds by all the employees.

Don't pull your gun, however, and just spend some time in a gun shop, and you'll discover they're genuinely nice people. Just armed to defend themselves and others.

Now it's not an accurate microcosm for the rest of the world, because the world is filled with people who use their automobiles as weapons against others who don't drive the way they think they should.

So here's my better idea: ENFORCE THE GUN LAWS. There are plenty of laws in each state to prevent just these kinds of incidents. So while California has very strict gun laws (by American standards), they're meaningless because they're obviously only enforced after other incidents (such as this one) occur.

My state, Tennessee, has more "lax" gun laws, but they are enforced. It's also a "shall issue" state, meaning those who apply for a carry permit shall be issued one by the state as long as they meet the requirements. Whereas a "may issue" state requires you to be interviewed by a local sheriff or other official, who may have an agenda, or may only issue permits to those with political connections.

So it's not America's "lax gun laws" that are the problem, it's the lax enforcement. And no, outright bans won't work, period.

Posted in: Mother killed, 5 hurt in gunbattle at California mall
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WhiteHawkDec. 09, 2010 - 04:37AM JST

Fadamor, Loudness and EZO didn't do too bad back in the 80's metal scene.

(Showing my age there, eh? lol)

Posted in: A global goodbye for Hikaru Utada
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WhiteHawkDec. 08, 2010 - 03:55PM JST

bababooey:

The music is bad enough. But the real problem is her voice. She's got a one octave range.

She's no bird (Kitayama Yuki), but I've heard worse (Taylor Swift springs to mind). Utada needs to smooth out her vibrato more than anything else. Too sheep-like. Not that it ever stopped Stevie Nicks, Cher, etc. from singing careers...

Posted in: A global goodbye for Hikaru Utada
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WhiteHawkDec. 08, 2010 - 03:51AM JST

I've got some of her CDs. Not because I'm a big fan, but because my former Japanese teacher was a big fan. I've always thought Deep River was a much better album than Exodus. Although Exodus had the title track, Easy Breezy and Animato as good songs. Traveling (from Deep River) is still my favorite song of hers.

Lots of people want a change in their late 20's, especially if they've had just one career so far. That doesn't mean she won't be back for a comeback tour if the money runs out, Streisand-style. Best of luck to her.

Posted in: A global goodbye for Hikaru Utada
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WhiteHawkDec. 05, 2010 - 02:59AM JST

furuigakko:

She will face racism by both in the small town, ignorant southerners and the Japanese community in the same small town. Hope she doesn't have this idea that Maryville, TN is L.A., NC or Seattle as she may have seen on all the TV and movies

How much time have you spent in Maryville?

I'm disappointed in Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions for standing in the way of this. Fortunately, Tennessee Rep. John Duncan and Sen. Lamar Alexander are backing the Ferschkes on this.

Posted in: Japanese widow, son of Marine closer to immigrating to U.S.
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WhiteHawkJul. 01, 2010 - 01:54AM JST

taka313:

WhiteHawk, You make a very bold assumption when you say "purple-fingered Iraqis" are all happier with saddam gone. How broad is the brush you paint with (other than 'real')?

Certainly not any broader than the brush I've seen you use on here quite a few times. And miniscule compared to yabits' "90% of Republicans are racist" brush. A comment he has yet to admit is wrong, much less retract and apologize for.

yabits:

The constitution that Senator Robert Byrd so loved provided for taxation so that government could promote the "general welfare" of the people as one of its basic functions.

Promote the general welfare, not provide it. A "nuance" commonly missed by Leftists.

Byrd didn't spend 50+ years and tens or hundreds of billions of dollars propping up West Virginia just to get electricty and phone service (say, isn't phone service in the private sector?) to the rural areas. His role went well beyond that.

sfjp330:

It would be hypocritical to suddenly shower him with respect simply because his time on Earth is done.

Actually, the Left didn't shower him with respect until he opposed Iraq. Prior to that, Byrd was routinely criticized and ridiculed by blog pundits and forum commentators for being "senile, racist", etc. But once he voiced his opposition to removing Saddam Hussein from power and bringing truly free elections to Iraq, he became a darling of the Left.

yabits:

Regarding Thurmond, unlike Byrd, he never recanted his racist, segregationist past. And he was welcomed into the Republican Party with open arms despite that --

Oh, you're slipping! ;) You admitted that the Republican Party welcomed Thurmond in despite his racist, segregationist past, not because of it. Maybe there's hope for you yet.

Byrd, by contrast, was a Democrat the entire time.

Sarge:

I'll give Byrd credit or one thing - he was one of three Democrats who voted against the confirmation of that tax-cheat Secretary of the Treasury Timothy Geithner.

Maybe he was trying to make up for past mistakes... ;)

Posted in: West Virginia Sen Robert Byrd dead at 92
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WhiteHawkJun. 30, 2010 - 04:37AM JST

yabits:

That's right, let the poor folks in W.V. remain that way. Thank goodness for people like Senator Byrd to counter that completely self-centered attitude.

Only a Leftist would consider someone wanting to keep what they've earned "selfish", and someone wanting to keep what someone else has earned as noble.

MadVerts:

whitehawk, I notice you chose to wilfully ignore the "What about the Iraqi's with purple limbs, rather than fingers, whitehawk? Or all those American boys?"

Because I had made my point. I know people (like you) disagree with me. I was simply pointing out that there are people who disagree with you, such as the purple-fingered Iraqis. A point you've yet to substantively counter, I noticed.

Those purple-fingered Iraqis disagree with you and Byrd. But hey, they only lived in Iraq under Saddam Hussein, so what do they know?

Posted in: West Virginia Sen Robert Byrd dead at 92
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WhiteHawkJun. 30, 2010 - 12:42AM JST

yabits:

The Republican Party offered the "southern strategy," whiched promised retrenchment via support for "states rights," i.e. weak federal enforcement of civil rights and voting laws, and opposition to measures designed to achieve greater integration.

Wow, that's some interesting "nuance". Again, merely your interpretation, which has no support in reality.

You mean the honored WWII bomber pilot who hails from the hippie/socialist stonghold of South Dakota? If there's one thing the Republicans are good at, it's character assassination.

The fact that McGovern campaigned from Left-of-center on issues (such as guaranteed handouts) is not character assassination. Nor does it have anything to do with whether he served in WWII.

It's interesting (and telling) how you use the "everybody was doing it at the time" defense for Byrd's involvement with the KKK, but point to McGovern's service in WWII as though it was a rare thing.

Madverts:

sarah palin did fine on her own without anyone helping her

"Anyone"... except Katie Couric and the CBS team of editors, and Tiny Fey and the SNL writers, DailyKos and their "birthers", and partisan Leftist hacks willing to believe anything derogatory about Republicans.

yabits:

Look aside from the fact that West Virginia was a poor backwater long before Senator Byrd took office -- decades of business-run, laissez-faire economics having had no affect -- being a state with no navigable rivers or a decent road system, the kind of infrastructure needed to take goods to market.

...and it didn't work. All Byrd did was enable the state of West Virginia to become dependent on federal tax dollars to prop it up, instead of doing what so many other states (like my own Tennessee) have done to attract business, such as offering tax incentives. But West Virginia hasn't needed to do that, because they've had Byrd's pork to rely on. Since Byrd's replacement probably won't be on the Appropriations Committee, it looks as though West Virginia's federal support will end. They'll have to actually compete for business with other states without Byrd's help, and they're late to the starting gate for the reasons I mentioned earlier.

Perhaps the old saying should be changed to "The road to West Virgina is paved with good intentions."

Posted in: West Virginia Sen Robert Byrd dead at 92
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WhiteHawkJun. 29, 2010 - 02:40PM JST

article:

Within two years, he surpassed his five-year goal of making sure more than $1 billion in federal funds was sent back to West Virginia, money used to build highways, bridges, buildings and other facilities, some named after him.

Thus making West Virginia dependent on the federal government and Senator Byrd. Now they'll have to come up with a plan "B".

As a young man, he was briefly a member of the Ku Klux Klan, and he joined an unsuccessful filibuster against the landmark 1964 Civil Rights Act.

Things that "liberals" (Leftists) are quick to forgive, while simultaneously continuing to chastise Trett Lott over a single comment made in honor of Strom Thurman (a comment that they had to apply their own content to in order to make it sound eeeeviiiiilll, just as they recently did to Rand Paul's comment about states rights).

Also... "briefly"? Didn't he rise to Grand Kleagle or Grand Cyclops or something like that? Well, I suppose his time in the KKK could be considered "brief" relative to the length of his life.

MistWizard:

Rest in peace Senator Byrd and thank you for opposing the Iraq invasion. You were my voice in the Senate on that subject and history has proven us correct.

I strongly suspect the purple-fingered Iraqis disagree with you.

yabits:

Byrd supported the U.S. Constitution in its crystal clear assignment of Congress, not the president, as the part of government given the responsibility for declaring war.

Funny how "liberals" (Leftists) had no use for Byrd until he opposed Iraq. Suddenly, the old racist was forgiven of his past and was no longer ridiculed for rambling diatribes on the senate floor.

This is totally wrong and betrays a gross ignorance of history. The south started breaking away from the Democratic Party right after President Truman ordered the integration of the armed forces, and cases against school segregation started making their way through the court systems. It was liberalism that racist southern whites started to rebel against.

For your argument to have any basis in reality, the Republican Party would have offered something to those "racist southern whites". What was it, exactly? Re-segregation of the armed forces? Re-segregation of schools? Legalized lynchings of blacks? No, Alphaape was right. It was the Left turn the Democrat Party took in 1968. It was, as I call it, the "Haight-Ashubry takeover". The "conservative" southerners left the Democrat party because it was over-run with hippies/socialists/communists. Remember George McGovern?

But hey, I've only been a southerner all my life and lived through all this stuff. You can go read about it on Wikipedia and claim to be an expert, right?

Not all Republicans look down on those who are different. The more that a Republican is liberal in their outlook, the less likely they are to be racist. (Which describes less than 10% of current Republicans.)

Now we know your opinion of Republicans. Yeah, I know, you've already made up your mind, there's no need to confuse you with facts. Interesting that with comment, you've proven yourself to be a bigger bigot than 99% of all the Republicans I've ever met (tens of thousands of people at least).

amerijap:

His legacy can be contrasted with Ted Kennedy. His name will be remembered in many ways including his connection with KKK, even though he was repentant and made everything he could to break with the past.

Yeah, I don't remember hearing about Byrd telling KKK or race jokes, while Kennedy is remembered for telling Chappaquiddick jokes. But most of Byrd's "repentance" was paid for with other peoples' money (taxes).

yabits:

Unrepentant racist whites couldn't tolerate that so, like David Duke, they looked for a new home -- and found one in the Republican Party.

So did a lot of southern blacks. Like Martin Luther King Jr. And Condoleeza Rice's father.

Byrd repented and so remained welcome among mainstream Democrats. The "white washing" you refer to is called "forgiveness."

So where's your forgiveness of Trent Lott? Or are you too busy writing libel about 90% of Republicans?

Byrd was far more than his distant racist past.

Yes, Billion$ and billion$ more.

Posted in: West Virginia Sen Robert Byrd dead at 92
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WhiteHawkJun. 19, 2010 - 04:18AM JST

Good on him for quitting. My own father quit smoking when I was young.

However, it looks like Japanese girls have discovered American fast food...

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