Thursday February 16, 2012

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    Wolfpack

    I agree that things have changed for Israel. In the past, Israel has been successful when fighting conventional wars against Egypt, Jordan, and Syria. Fighting against terrorist groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah has been a different story. The terrorists are getting better tactical weapons that are changing the situation for Israel.

    Discussion and debate about the details of the current conflict is irrelevent and leads nowhere and has led nowhere in every other case during the past 60 years. The bottom line is that Arabs and Palestinians do not accept the United Nations creation of the state of Israel back in 1947. If they were to accept Israel's right to exist, then peace would be possible. However, there is no indication that they ever will.

    For those that oppose Israels actions today, do you accept Israel's right to exist? If not, why and what can be done about it short of an all out war?

    Posted in: Defiant Hamas hits Israel with dozens of rockets

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    Wolfpack

    Israel has no choice but to engage Hamas to stop the Gaza rocket attacks. The US and Europe need to stay out of this. The war will never end until Arabs and Palestinians accept Israel's right to exist. That is not likely to happen anytime soon so any efforts to "negotiate" peace between the two sides is nothing more than a waste of time.

    Posted in: Defiant Hamas hits Israel with dozens of rockets

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    Wolfpack

    itcher74 says:

    *Therefore since the aggressors are Israel the fault lies with Israel. *

    It is a fact that on the day that Israel became a nation, Arab nations attacked them. Do you deny this fact? If so, then there is no use discussing this issue with you. Israel somehow defeated Egypt, Syria, Jordan, etc. That was the beginning of the conflict that continues to this day. Arabs lost that war and have not gotten over it since. Quite frankly, I don't understand why the United Nations created the state of Israel. But they did and therefore, have a legitimate right to exist whether you like it or not. Israel was clearly not the aggressor from the beginning. If you believe otherwise then your facts and understanding of history are just wrong.

    I don't agree with your assertion that Israel "stole" any land. The Arab nations lost this land in war. It was there fault for starting the war and they have paid the consequences for that mistake.

    As I already told SuperLib, every Palestinian leader has accepted to make a state according to 1967 borders.

    Again, you are incorrect. Yasser Arafat turned down President Clinton's effort to broker peace between the Israeli's and the Palestinians in the Oslo Accords which would have traded land for peace. Arafat turned it down because he knew that Islamo-facist terrorists would have assasinated him if he had accepted the deal (just like Anwar Sadat was assasinted for his peace treat with Israel).

    Look back on history and note that although Israel is not completely blameless (ie. the pre-emptive war of 1967), they have nearly always responded to aggression from terrorism or from attacks from Arab nations. Even in the case of the pre-emptive 1967 war, Arab nations were massing for war and Israeli just responded by gaining the advantage of surprise.

    Why can't Palestinians give up on terrorism and just negotiate for peace and their land claims? I ask you or anyone else here - do the Palestinians, Hamas, the PLO, and all Arab nations want Israel to remain a nation in the Middle East? Well? The answer is obvious, they do not and therefore there will be no peace because at least Hamas, Syria, and Iran will never give up aggression against Israel until Israel is wiped off the map. Instead of using violence to achieve this aim, Arabs and Palestinians in particular should at least give up violence and use the United Nations to get rid of Israel. That is the only legitimate way to do so since the UN created Israel in the first place.

    Posted in: Israeli attacks on Gaza complicate Obama's Mideast policy

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    Wolfpack

    itcher74 says:

    If you speak of international law UN has demanded Israel to retreat to the 1967 borders and give independence to the remainding 20% of historic Palestine divided into West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza.

    Well, the problem with this argument is that Arab countries blew it by attacking and threatening Israel since the day of their lawful creation by the United Nations. If they were not attacked, Israel would not be "occupying" land that was not originally authorized to them by the UN. Arab nations believed that they could defeat Israel through force and their gamble resulted in defeat. The consequences of this are the loss of territory to the nation that was wrongly attacked to begin with. Why didn't Arab nations consider this potential outcome before they invaded Iraq on the day that the UN created Israel? The answer is that they were confident that they would win.

    If and when Arab nations and the Palestinians agree to a peace treaty and non-aggression pact against the Israelis, then any claims for lands such as those in the Gaza could be considered. But whenever Israel unilaterally withdraws from occupied lands they are attacked from terrorist bases in the places they left. Israel has agreed in principle to land for peace and a two state solution. However, Arabs will not accept this because it still includes the existence of Israel in the Middle East.

    I agree that Palestinian refugees should at least receive compensation for property that they have lost as a result of the UN action to create Israel and even for the land captured as a result of Arab invasions and military aggression against Israel. However, Israel should only provide such compensation as a part of a comprehensive non-aggression pact.

    Now as I said earlier if someone still support someone who first stole some ones country, then killed and expeled the rightful citizens just to follow them and kill them in their refugee camps outside your stolen country they need to check their moral compass.

    Anyone who supports terrorism - such as the Palestinians and many Arab countries such as Iran and Syria - are the ones that should be checking their moral compass. If Arabs and Palestinians would just stop attacking Israel then all is possible. But Arabs will not allow this because it means that Israel will continue to exist in the Middle East.

    Posted in: Israeli attacks on Gaza complicate Obama's Mideast policy

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    Wolfpack

    itcher74 says:

    I still don´t understand how some people can still support someone who first stole some ones country, then killed and expeled the rightful citizens just to follow them and kill them in their refugee camps outside your stolen country.

    The Jews did not "steal" the Palestinians country. The United Nations used it's authority to create the state of Israel. The existence of Israel is a matter of international law. If someone does not like this fact they should take it up with the UN. People can support Israel because they believe that they have the legitimate right to exist based on international law. Arabs did not accept this and attacked them from day one. Most Arabs still do not accept Israel's right to exist and as a result lend tacit or direct support to terrorists such as Hamas. The reason that refugee camps exist is because Arabs (including Palestinians) refuse to accept the international sanctioned right of Israel to exist and have been attacking Israel since day one. In addition, other Arab nations refuse to take the refugees. The only reason why Israel kills anyone inside the refugee camps is because the camps are being used as bases for military attacks and terrorists acts against Israel.

    Bottom line, if you don't like what is happening to the Palestinians, take your case to the United Nations - they are the one's repsonsible for the current situation in the Middle East. Next, take your case to the Arab nations - all of whom refuse to accept and resettle Palestinian refugees. Finally, don't expect the US or Europe to solve the Palestinian question - that is up to the countries of the Middle East and the United Nations.

    Posted in: Israeli attacks on Gaza complicate Obama's Mideast policy

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    Wolfpack

    Obama is going to get America knee-deep in the Middle East and he will fail just like every other world leader has for the past 60 years. There can be no peace in the Middle East until terrorists such as Hamas, Syria, Iran, and Arabs in general accept Israel's right to exist. Once Hamas gives up aggressive military actions then Israel will stop having to defend itself.

    USARonin is right about the plight of the Palestinians. They are being used, willingly I might add, by their fellow Arabs. The US and Europe provides the Palestinian people with millions upon millions of dollars worth of aid each year. The surrounding Arab nations could have taken them in and integrated them into their own societies but they have not and will not do so. The reason why they do not help the Palestinians is obvious, they are much more useful as an irritant and as fodder for aggressive actions against Israel - whose existence they will not accept.

    Posted in: Israeli attacks on Gaza complicate Obama's Mideast policy

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    Wolfpack

    This faked story will serve as food to nourish the angry psyche of anti-Seimitism. Holocaust deniers will use this misguided man's hoax to reaffirm their irrational hatred of Jews. As for the charge that Israel uses the Holocaust as a shield to defend itself from terrorism; that's just ridiculous.

    Posted in: Anger, sadness over fabricated Holocaust story

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    Wolfpack

    Now the propaganda begins to make Americans believe that he actually gives a damn about the military.

    Posted in: Obama visits military base for Christmas

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    Wolfpack

    Decades of writing checks to support the opera can get a bit stale after a while. She's got millions and her name is Kennedy - heck, why not be a Senator for a while. Sure, she doesn't even vote and hasn't supported hardly anyone in the Democrat party. By golly, she is qualified because ... well ... she is a Kennedy! Oh, and she could probably raise a lot of money too.

    Posted in: Kennedy says 9/11, Obama led her to public service

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    Wolfpack

    The parody makes sense in response to the liberal columnists original "Negro" opinion piece. Limbaugh makes the point that Obama's rise has helped guilty whites feel better about themselves. David Ehrenstein (a guy who once called for the murder of a conservative Supreme Court justice) makes this point in his article:

    http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-ehrenstein19mar19,0,5335087.story?coll=la-opinion-center

    Chip Saltsman didn't have a snowball's chance in hell to get the chairman's job. He is chances are less than that. Michael Steele's chances have just gone up...

    Posted in: Republican chairman 'appalled' by Obama parody

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    Wolfpack

    Japan should pitch in against the pirates just as the US, China, French, and others are. They still have an export led economy so it is good to hear that Japan is sending some ships. Given China's increasing asertiveness, it's not a bad idea from a national defense stand point either.

    Posted in: Aso orders preparations to send warship to fight piracy off Somalia

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    Wolfpack

    The worse thing about this case is Fitzgerald's ineptitude or partisanship - either one is a possibility with the way he handled Armitage's outing of Plame. His prematurely publicizing the case before any crime occurred was idiotic. He has nothing on Blagojevich. Now that he has ruined his own case, he can get on with looking for some Republican unrelated to the case to convict.

    Posted in: Obama to release Blagojevich report this week

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    Wolfpack

    After spending 20 years hanging out with his mentor - a racist anti-American "preacher", and running for president as redistributor-in-chief, I think Obama merits a lot of criticism over the next four to eight years. He isn't even president yet and his chief of staff is now linked to a pay-to-play scandal in his home state. I am looking forward to slamming Obama early and often. Racists and people he want to take from others deserve any opprobrium they get.

    Posted in: Obama arrives in Hawaii for holiday

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    Wolfpack

    Great - released just in time for the christian holidays! Wonder if he is still interested in a little more adventure in his life?

    Posted in: Australian former Guantanamo Bay detainee freed

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    Wolfpack

    This is just business folks. I don't know much about charitable giving in Japan, but it would be nice if the Ginza retailers were also giving to less fortunate children. Maybe they are and maybe ther are not. I wish I knew more about the role of businesses in local communities or national charities in Japan.

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    Wolfpack

    Since there will soon be a corrupt President from Illinois, why not seat a corrupt Senator from Illinois appointed by the corrupt Governor from Illinois?

    Posted in: Illinois governor pledges to fight, won't quit

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    Wolfpack

    UAW workers are terrible - the management at the not so Big Three know it and don't do anything about the problem. The bailout will fail and more borrowed money will be given to them by Obama on top of what Bush gave them just to help the Democrat's big campaign contributors at the UAW. It's best for the US automakers to file for bankruptcy, downsize, get rid of the UAW contracts, and come back smaller and much leaner than they are now. American auto workers can build cars - the transplants have proven that. But management needs to focus more on quality then quantity and the unions must be dealt with. This bailout will surely fail withoug fundamental changes - which are not required by this deal.

    Posted in: Bush gives $17 bil loan lifeline to GM, Chrysler

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    Wolfpack

    For the neo-commies (ie. Democrats) it must be shocking that their political savior is just a regular Chicago politician on the make. Obama said that he and his people had no contact with Blagojevich about his successor. Apparently, he didn't talk to his closest advisor before making this blanket statement. Rahm Emmanual is the link to the corrupt governor of Illinois. Face it neo-commies, Obama lied. Not that the main stream media will call him on it - they will be in the tank for Obama until the rest of the rats start jumping off the ship.

    Posted in: Obama says investigation clears his team

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    Wolfpack

    Fitzgerald pulled the trigger too fast and the Governor will get off the hook. Blagojevich just talked about doing something illegal, he didn't actually do anything illegal. The real question is, why did Fitzgerald accuse the Governor of a crime before he actually committed the crime? I don't think it is possible for Blagojevich to be impeached for anything other than stupidity.

    Posted in: Prospect of impeachment now looms over Illinois governor

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    Wolfpack

    Democrats cheer when an (Republican) American president is insulted overseas. Dems are only concerned with their own political fortunes and not the overall interests of the country. No wonder Obama had to select Bush's Defense Secretary - Democrats can't be trusted with their own country's national interests.

    Posted in: Across Mideast, Arabs hail shoe-hurling journalist

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