Wednesday February 15, 2012

ambrosia's past comments

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    ambrosia

    Tony Berry: Hundreds of thousands of lives lost? Are you talking about the Boxing Day tsunami? If not, get your facts straight. I believe that in Japan the March 11 disasters took closer to 20,000+ some lives. Surely that's a big enough number that we don't need to be exaggerating it.

    Posted in: Belgian soccer match halted after Fukushima taunts

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    Oracle: Yes, it's insensitive and barbaric and uncalled for. No, it's not worth a tear! Why give any validity to such nonsense? First off, the people chanting are strangers and we may disagree but in my mind that already makes me think a person should be less inclined to be affected by their words. Second, if people are low enough to yell such garbage why in the world would you give two cents to what they say regardless of the subject matter? It's like getting mad at a baby whose first words are offensive or a parrot that learned to mimic some nonsense.
    As for your last example. It happens. Watch more football and you'll hear it. He's not the first to have been insulted in such a manner and he won't be the last. Unfortunately, now that they know what his Achilles Heel is, it won't be the last time for him either. I'm not condoning such taunts for anyone all ready to misinterpret my words!

    Posted in: Belgian soccer match halted after Fukushima taunts

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    ambrosia

    I grew up with miners and it's hard to imagine any of them being reduced to tears on a pitch due to fan taunts. You may not think that's emotionally healthy but that's your problem not theirs.

    Posted in: Belgian soccer match halted after Fukushima taunts

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    Erikaj: I certainly never called him a loser or said he didn't deserve a second chance but "if it makes people like you" feel better putting words in other people's mouths then have at. If he wants to cry off the pitch, throw things, get it all out, fine. On the pitch, concentrate and keep your mind on the game. He plays on a team which means other people are relying on his ability to block out childish taunts. He's been playing professional soccer for at least ten years. Granted most of them were in Japan and Japanese fans taunt of choice would've been different but they aren't all sweetness and roses either. Surely he watched European soccer and knew how rude the fans could get. This can't have come as a huge shock to him and again, given the horrible things that are regularly said to black players the only thing I find surprising is how surprised some of the posters are by these taunts or is this kind of behavior somehow acceptable or easier to ignore when directed at non-Japanese players? Is someone going to now try and convince me that those blatantly racist taunts are less vicious and hurtful, when they cut to the core of who you are?

    Good thing you're not a coach because one who'd tell his players to let it all out anywhere besides the pitch wouldn't last long. Your players wouldn't be taught the mental discipline necessary to take on their opponents and would either be too teary-eyed to see the ball or would be red carded for fighting. Keeping your emotions in check is a very necessary skill for any top level player. If you really and truly don't understand that then it's hard to imagine why you're even commenting on an article about professional sports. It's professional sports not a community college acting class.

    Posted in: Belgian soccer match halted after Fukushima taunts

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    ambrosia

    Erikaj: You may not have intended it but you just proved my point. Tiger's lost his mental edge which is why he's fallen so low in the standings and not won a major event in over a year. So given that, how would telling a player to learn to ignore the taunts be anything but good advice? What would you have them do, focus on the taunts and lose concentration on the game? There will always be a@&holes and you're unlikely to change their behavior so you can only change the way you react to it.

    Everyone else is assuming things but you're sure of them? Interesting how that works

    Posted in: Belgian soccer match halted after Fukushima taunts

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    ambrosia

    steve: Too right! Read Among the Thugs and Fever Pitch to start with and you'll learn just how many of the so called hooligans are middle-class, white collar professionals. There's a lot of classism in painting all of the idiotic fans in questions as being lower class. Low class yes. Lower class is a whole other prejudice.

    Posted in: Belgian soccer match halted after Fukushima taunts

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    arobasi: Get over yourself and try not to tell people you know nothing about how much they love or care about Japan and its people. You're not better than anyone here because you think you feel more upset about the recent disasters. You don't know who among us was personally affected by the earthquake, tsunami or nuclear accident. You don't know what our relationships are to Japan and the people here. Some of us have been here as long as Kawashima has been on the earth. For anyone to assume that by being Japanese he's got more right to feel sorrow or mourn what has happened any more than posters who live here, have family and friends here and have made their lives here is itself bordering on racist. Get off your high horse of indignation and try to read the posts for what they are actually saying.

    1) This kind of thing goes on in football all the time. That doesn't mean anyone is saying it's okay or acceptable but simply that any player hoping to have a long and successful career is going to have to learn to ignore it.

    2) This kind of behavior is not directed solely at Japanese, not by a long stretch. Blacks are frequently the targets of very vicious taunts as are players who are assumed to have stepped out of line in any way; requesting trades, experiencing slumps, sleeping with prostitutes (ask Rooney if the fans were delicate and sensitive with him), etc.

    3) No one here is saying it's acceptable behavior. Yes, I'm repeating myself but it seems to be necessary.

    4) No one here has in any way made light of what the Japanese have recently experienced or said it's acceptable fodder for taunts.

    5) Do you get this indignant when black and Jewish players are taunted and have things thrown at them or is this a case of feeling the Japanese are somehow more worthy of protection and indignation?

    6) Like it or not, the fans can be vicious. The best advice any player can get is to learn to ignore it. If you've read even half of these posts and gotten any other message from them then you're just looking to be irritated and indignant and that's just silly.

    7) The taunts have little or nothing to do with the disaster. They have everything to do with trying to find a player's weak spot and picking at it until he looses it. Thankfully, you're not the one giving the players advice on how to handle the taunts.

    Posted in: Belgian soccer match halted after Fukushima taunts

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    Marcelito and all future posters feigning indignation: NO ONE IS TRYING TO DEFEND THE BOORISH BEHAVIOR OF A SMALL GROUP OF FANS. The comments are in regards to Kawashima's supposed reaction to the fans. Again, no one is defending the fans.

    Posted in: Belgian soccer match halted after Fukushima taunts

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    ambrosia

    Let's get over the whole Belgium bashing too. It proves nothing but that posters can be as ignorant as a small group of fans. As I recall, there was bullying of kids from Fukushima when they had to relocate and that was done by Japanese. Anyone care to call all Japanese insensitive and moronic because of that?

    Posted in: Belgian soccer match halted after Fukushima taunts

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    ambrosia

    HowdyDoody: Are you serious? Do you know nothing about history and how people's ability to dehumanize others resulted in the deaths and enslavements of millions? Go to Africa and ask any of the fans or players there how they feel about some of the insults hurled at their players and then tell me how those are just words. But then ask them how they'd feel about a player crying because of such insults and I guarantee you they'd find that appalling. They'd want him to be brave, ignore the childish chants, win the game and throw the insults in the face of the ignorant fans through his strength, mental and physical. At the end of the day, it's not a matter of which insult is worse. That's what you and the others defending him (if he indeed cried) don't seem to understand. The fans will find your weakness and dig at it until you prove that you are too weak to handle it. And, come off it! No one is saying that people should say such things or throw objects onto the pitch and you know it. All anyone has said is that fans do this and part of being a top level player is being able to handle it - assuming the situation isn't life threatening. Your attempts to suggest that anyone here finds such behavior acceptable are ridiculous and grasping at best.

    Gyouza: It's unlikely that anyone posting here has had tens of thousands of people chanting abusive slogans at them. It's also highly unlikely that anyone posting here has been paid hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of dollars to ignore those chants and play a game. A player at this level isn't chosen solely on his ability to play. He's also got to be able to handle the stress that comes with being a top-level player. If he can't handle that he's no good to his team and certainly not worth what he's being paid. If you can't handle the things that fans say then you should go into long-distance running or tennis, where fans are kicked out for making too much noise and breaking a player's concentration. That way too, you won't be disappointing the rest of your teammates when you give in to your emotions.

    Posted in: Belgian soccer match halted after Fukushima taunts

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    ambrosia

    I agree that the when is important which is why I said he should cry into his pillow. I can't tell from the clip if he cried or not but the story above and a number of other ones said he did so if your problem is with the media take it up with them. If he didn't cry great. Either way, I stand by what I said in regards to professional players having to be emotionally tough.

    Posted in: Belgian soccer match halted after Fukushima taunts

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    ambrosia

    That's good. His head should have been held high. He shouldn't have cried though, as has been reported by a number of news agencies. Like it or not, those tears showed weakness and will only open him up to more taunts. While tears can show sensitivity in some situations in other they are a sign of a lack of mental toughness. If anyone is really honest they'll admit that that's true.

    Posted in: Belgian soccer match halted after Fukushima taunts

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    ambrosia

    Before we condemn all Belgian or footie fans for being racist louts let's remember that it was a minority who were shouting. Using the Fukushima disaster as a pretext for bullying didn't start in Europe either. It started among Japanese school kids here in Japan when kids from Fukushima were relocated. That ought to give you an idea of the maturity level of fans who'd use such taunts. I certainly hope that Kawashima's advice to those bullied kids wouldn't be to give up and cry. How can you even take seriously such childish taunts regardless of how crass and tasteless they might've been? Leaving the pitch because your life is in danger I understand but suck it up and walk off with your head held high. Save the tears for your pillow.

    Posted in: Belgian soccer match halted after Fukushima taunts

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    ambrosia

    Of course the taunts are going to make him emotional but as a professional player he needs to turn those emotions into something that benefits his team. Why not shout "For Fukushima! " "For Miyagi!" "For Iwate!" everytime he stops a shot? Turn it back on the fans who were trying to get under his skin. I completely disagree with those who are saying posters are condoning the fans boorish behavior because they don't think Kawashima should've left the pitch in tears. He shouldn't have. It's as simple as that. That in no way means people should shout such nasty things but they did and they will continue to, especially now as they know it bothers him. The alternative is not suggesting he run into the stands either. The only reasonable suggestion is that he toughen up and concentrate on what is happening on the pitch, not what is being said from the stands. However sympathetic his team may be to his country's loss I'm sure they'd also prefer he keep his mind on the game. He's playing for a team, not himself. He gets paid well to have physical and mental toughness. As for Eto, if I'm not mistaken, he walked off after repeated (many games) racists taunts and after having things thrown at him and other black players numerous times. It seems that his walking off was a last ditch effort to get FIFA to do something about what had become a potentially dangerous situation. Not quite the same as Kawashima leaving in tears, sorry.

    Posted in: Belgian soccer match halted after Fukushima taunts

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    ambrosia

    Smorkian: Exactly!

    Posted in: 35 deaths, 7,071 hospitalized due to heatstroke in one-week period

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    ambrosia

    Yes, certainly people should stay hydrated but if they're sweating excessively there is absolutely nothing wrong with turning on the a.c. so that their homes are reasonable temperatures.
    Thanks for your concern for my husband. It sounded so heartfelt and sincere. He dresses appropriately but I'll let him know about your excellent advice. My comment about winter was clearly lost on you so I'll try again. Those who are so anti-a.c. and preach to others about how they should just suck it up in the summer but who use heaters in winter are hypocrites. I didn't mention you or anyone specifically but if the shoe fits.... Is that clear enough? True too that most people in Africa are without a.c. but many are also without clean, running water, indoor plumbing or readily available medical care. Should those of us who have those things stop using them because others don't have them? I'm sorry but I fail to see how it's relevant that people in Africa don't have a.c. but I guarantee you that those who do have it, be it in their houses, offices or cars, do use it. As for moving, again, excellent, sincere advice. The apartment is fine 9 1/2 months out of the year. Thank you very much.

    Posted in: 35 deaths, 7,071 hospitalized due to heatstroke in one-week period

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    Manta60: My apologies in advance if you're being sarcastic but it's not translating well. If you're being serious, bully for you! You're clearly a far superior human being to the rest of us.

    Those of you who don't think people need a.c. in summer but turn on heaters in the winter - zip it! Without knowing how hot some people's houses are or what those people's physical condition is, you don't have a leg to stand on. My tolerance for cold is very high. I shower with the gas off from late June to mid-September and would happily go all winter without the heater but for my husband, who sits next to me shivering. He, by the way, is from sub-Saharan Africa and even he finds our apartment intolerable in the summer.

    Posted in: 35 deaths, 7,071 hospitalized due to heatstroke in one-week period

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    ambrosia

    Papasmurf has clearly never been to my apartment or he'd understand the reliance on a.c. With all the windows open, the fan on and the straw screens up our southwest facing cement box is still a sauna for a good two months out of the year. It comes down to bad building design. I've been to places hotter and colder than Tokyo but never been as uncomfortable inside without relying on a.c. or heaters everywhere. Blame it on materials that don't suit the climate, a lack of insulation and air flow and you've summed up my building in a nutshell. For what we payed in key money and deposits not to mention rent and renewal fees, we should be able to sit without breathing being difficult. Heaven forbid I have to move around to do laundry, cook, clean, etc. All the fan does is blow around hot air. We've woken up to morning temperatures of 32+ though I use the term woken up lightly because without the a.c. it's often too hot to sleep.

    Posted in: 35 deaths, 7,071 hospitalized due to heatstroke in one-week period

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    ambrosia

    As always, the government acts in a reactionary manner. Things are done only after something happens. Is no one in the government capable of being proactive and anticipating potential problems before they happen?

    Posted in: Contaminated beef served in Gifu school lunches

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    ambrosia

    I'm just confused as to why this is called a hugging contest. Is the word being misused. Was some clarifying information left out of the article! Is it too early in the morning for me to fully comprehend things?

    Posted in: Japanese porn star's hugging contest draws crowds to Hong Kong comic fair

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