cleo's past comments

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    cleo

    I am not defending the man as far as him killing the lion

    Mmm, yes you are : doesn't he have that right to go hunting if he has a license and the country where he is doing the hunting allows it?.....is that a crime?... he is within his rights

    I'm not saying that you are wrong, not at all, but I think you need to see it from another perspective.

    You mean from the perspective of What fun it is to kill things and then pose beside them with an imbecilic grin on my face? Sorry, no can do. It's way off the scale of my understanding. If I were able to see things from that perspective, I would book myself into a mental hospital because I would hate myself if I were that kind of sick person.

    Killing a lion, any lion, any animal, just for the fun of it, is morally despicable and the act of a bloodthirsty pervert, that rightly exposes the perpetrator to the vilification of society at large. I would not want any such piece of scum living in my neighbourhood or pretending to be an upstanding member of society. I would not want to support their sick way of life by paying for their services, or by selling my labour to them.

    Killing Cecil the lion, a protected individual living in a national park animal sanctuary, and then trying to hide the fact by removing the collar, is a criminal act that deserves legally-sanctioned punishment. I hope sfjp330 is wrong, and that Palmer does get extradited to Zimbabwe. And I hope he gets to spend a long, long time there.

    NO one is thinking about the other lives that are connected to his life

    Either those other lives knew what he was and were happy with it (his wife is apparently also a 'hunter') in which case I have no sympathy for them, or they didn't know and now they do; they can heave a sigh of relief and get on with their lives in a more wholesome environment.

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  • 3

    cleo

    There are pluses and minuses, but all things taken into consideration, yes, it's a good place to raise kids. Nowhere's perfect, of course.

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  • 0

    cleo

    bass, do you understand the difference between legality and morality? I'm guessing not.

    Killing for the heck of it, whether it's a lion, polar bear, domestic cat or whatever, is SICK.

    I agree and you won't get any arguments, disagreements or disputes from me about it.

    The dentist killed for the heck of it, over and over, revelled in it, bragged about it, yet you defend him and his rights?

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  • 6

    cleo

    In Japan 21 years old is a minor .... !!!!

    No it isn't.

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  • 1

    cleo

    You regularly make totally erroneous statements

    ??

    YOU stated that apex predators don't pose a man-eater risk and act purely defensively.

    I stated no such thing. I said that the dentist was in no danger of being eaten by either a lion or a polar bear in Minnesota and therefore had no reason at all to go out in search of a lion to kill. If you feel that statement is erroneous, please explain your reasoning. I made no reference to predators acting defensively: that is a totally erroneous (dishonest?) statement on your part.

    Regularly weaving arguments around a collection of half-truths is intellectually dishonest.

    Don't do it, then. The argument that Palmer was justified in killing a lion because it is a dangerous predator isn't even a half-truth. Not only did he travel half way around the world and pay a stack of cash to get in shooting range, he used the carcass of another animal as bait to deliberately lure it out of a national park, where it was doing neither him nor anyone else any harm.

    Apart from the lion, the killer dentist posed for pictures with animals he killed that were in no way 'predators', including herbivores like longhorn sheep, elk, buffalo, antelope and endangered rhino. he took his shirt off and posed topless for a photo with a leopard he'd killed. What's that all about?

    the reflex argument of the unimaginative female: belittle the man's penis

    In my experience it tends to be men who belittle other men's attributes and suffer anguish over their own; we ladies know that it isn't size that matters. Palmer the Killer Dentist used pictures of his dead 'trophies' to try and impress a barmaid; apparently he himself didn't feel his own studly attributes were sufficient to the purpose.

    bored rich people like Palmer also ensure the survival of species like lions and elephants. They support local businesses in countries where the local governments don't give a crap about preserving animals or their habitat.

    Real men shoot with cameras, not guns or bows and arrows.

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    cleo

    “Both I and the client were extremely devastated that this thing had a collar on because at no time did we see a collar on this lion prior to shooting it,” Bronkhorst told AFP.

    Speaks volumes about this intrepid hunter's attitude to wildlife. Nothing more than things to be used as target practice.

    I think it’s been a deliberate ploy to ban all hunting.

    As if that would be a bad thing.

    Posted in: Conflicting reports over killing of Cecil the lion's 'brother'

  • -1

    cleo

    Who decides where polar bear territory ends and human territory begins? The polar bears?

    Clutching at straws much? How far is it from Minnesota? And what relevance does it have to big-game trophy hunting by bored rich people who are under the illusion that paying to kill things makes up for their inadequately-sized reproductive equipment?

    So you've never used a fly swatter either, right?

    Followed by posing beside the dead body with an inane grin on my face, cutting off the head, sticking it on the wall and bragging to my friends about how brave I am?

    No, not once. Ever.

    But we're not talking about dealing with nuisance/dangerous animals who pose an immediate threat to human life or health, are we? We're talking about bored rich people who can find no better way to spend their time and money than to kill on a canned hunt. The fly equivalent would be a spoiled little brat pulling the wings off the fly just for the fun of it.

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    cleo

    Noble73-

    Do you think polar bears are cute and fuzzy too? Lions and bears are predatory carnivores that CAN and WILL kill and eat you.

    Cute and fuzzy? Who ever said anything about cute and fuzzy? But, beautiful? Yes, polar bears are beautiful.

    Lions and polar bears are predatory creatures, but they will not kill me unless I stray or deliberately trespass on their territory. The dentist was in no danger of being killed and eaten by either a lion or a polar bear in Minnesota, so your 'but they are dangerous animals' argument holds no water. Though it is rather wet.

    bass -

    I'm not sure if the killing of this beloved lion was intentional, premeditated or just pure coincidental

    He made the trip from the US to Africa, hired guides to lead him to his prey, armed himself and set out to lure the animal to where he could get a shot at it, went out again the next day to finish it off. There was nothing 'coincidental' about it. OF COURSE it was intentional. OF COURSE it was premeditated.

    The sad thing is that the fuss is only because he killed the 'wrong' lion, not that the sad excuse for a human killed at all.

    we don't know anything about this person

    We know he gets his jollies from killing unsuspecting animals, posing beside their dead bodies with a big stupid grin on his face, then sending body parts back home as trophies. How is he any different from whoever it is in Kobe who is currently going around decapitating domestic cats?

    people are getting so worked up over this and having their priorities all over the place is seriously frightening

    As someone who has previously declared his own penchant for 'sport' killing, I'm not surprised you might feel uneasy.

    Killing for the heck of it, whether it's a lion, polar bear, domestic cat or whatever, is SICK.

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    cleo

    Palmer issued a statement saying he relied on his guides to ensure the hunt was legal

    He obviously relied on no one to ensure the hunt was moral. To paraphrase Ricky Gervais, What must have happened to this dentist to make him want to kill a beautiful animal and then stand next to it smiling?

    He is sick. I hope he gets extradited to Zimbabwe, found guilty (as he obviously is), fined more than his dentistry practice is worth and jailed for at least 15 years. That should be plenty of time to 'cure' him of his mental illness.

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  • 0

    cleo

    You honestly believe that the more expensive eggs come from chickens not factory-farmed and fed on cheap GMOs?! You don't really know Japan.

    I think I know Japan very well, thank you. The most expensive eggs are a rip-off. The free-range eggs at the local Coop are from local producers who are known by reputation if not personally. The supermarket eggs (and cheaper Coop eggs) come from a factory.

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    cleo

    they do sell some variants of apples that they claim are better at a price higher than 500 yen each.

    "They" sell all kinds of stuff at all kinds of outrageous prices. I've seen eggs priced at 250 yen apiece, but that doesn't mean 'eggs in Japan cost 250 yen each'. My local Coop sells organic free range for 350yen for a pack of ten, and if you're happy with factory-farmed eggs from caged birds fed on cheap GMOs, the supermarket has them stacked high for 100 to 150 yen per pack.

    You don't need butter

    People should only be allowed to buy absolute basic essentials? I'm not buying that.

    Of course, if you are used to fruit picked by exploited Mexican day labor, or imported from development nations where it is picked by indentured labor without rights,.......

    A very valid point.

    .

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    cleo

    Japan needs a localised version of Spitting Images to loosen up the people who think they are the powers that be. Since when did politics become "not suitable" for kids?

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    cleo

    I don't know about butter, but apples are between 250-500 Yen each in Japan.(depending on thea area you are in.) Apples are between $.79 - $2.00 a pound in the U.S.

    You don't know about apples either. Chez cleo we eat a lot of fruit and never, not once, ever, have I paid as much as 250 yen for a single apple. 500 yen for a bag of four is around average. That's a lot more than it could be, but let's not exaggerate.

    How about corn on the cob?!!! ..... I would eat 4-5 big ears by myself as a 6 y.o. kid. In Japan I gotta pay at least 100 yen for a small ear and they act like they are doing me a favor.

    Your parents weren't doing you any favors letting you guzzle six big sticks of high-calorie corn at the age of six.

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  • 0

    cleo

    that's just a load of vague waffling to avoid admitting you don't know what the difference is between a gene which is "evolved" and a gene which is engineered.

    You're the one who doesn't understand the difference.

    A dog that didn't automatically distrust humans didn't exist in nature before some humans bred grey wolves into them.

    No. The domestic dog is no more descended from wolves than man is descended from apes. There is a shared common ancestor. Some specimens of the common ancestor of the modern wolf and the domestic dog with a bit more curiosity/courage/foolhardiness/hunger than others hung around human settlements for the scraps that were available. The ones that were more naturally disposed to tolerate humans in return for food mated with others who were also more naturally so inclined, their offspring grew up around humans and themselves mated with like minds. Those offspring who inherited genes not conducive to being friendly to/tolerant of humans slunk off into the wild, leaving a stronger mix of 'friendly' genes in the population left behind. The genes got shuffled about, but from start to finish nothing but canine genes were/are involved; nothing got 'modified' in the sense of alien genes being added to produce the desired result.

    GMO crops, on the other hand, with bits of bacteria/insect/heaven only knows what else artificially spliced in, have never and could never appear naturally.

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    cleo

    Another one.

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    cleo

    Ever heard of Darwin's evolution? Survival of the fittest?

    Another problem with this kind of 'cull' is that the ones that don't get culled are the ones best able to avoid the human-implemented measures to kill them - i.e.., the ones that are best able to survive, survive; they pass on to their offspring their superior survival skills and in a couple of generations the numbers are back up, but this time the animals are harder to kill. A bit like bad use of antibiotics creating a strain of antibiotic-resistant bugs.

    Which means that this kind of programme does no good except for providing a 'feel-good' factor for those who think killing is any kind of answer; and in the process it inflicts a lot of unnecessary and uncalled-for suffering on an animal population that didn't particularly want to go to Australia in the first place and are just doing the best they can to get by.

    Let the local native species disappear and change the entire ecology or preserve the native species by removing the invasive species.

    So you'd recommend a cull of all the sheep and cattle that were introduced? They have 'changed the entire ecology' every bit as much as, if not more than, the moggies.

    Posted in: Brigitte Bardot slams Australia's plan to kill 2 million feral cats

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    cleo

    harvey, check out the difference between domestic pet cat, stray cat and feral cat.

    Domestic cats were first introduced into Australia around the beginning of the 19th century, and the first feral cats were seen around 1820. Way back then, letting pet cats roam wasn't seen as 'lazy' - it was just the way cats were kept. Pet owners today are not the cause of the feral cat population.

    The real culprits are the ignorant folk back then who thought introducing exotic species (cats, rabbits, foxes, goats, cane toads, camels and the rest) into a virgin and unprotected ecosystem was any kind of good idea.

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    cleo

    This is a different trend from what is said by the mass media though.

    That poll says people giving their opinions are 80% males, 20% females. Males on the whole tend to be more bellicose than females. A more evenly-balanced poll would probably give a different result, more in line with what we are hearing around us and what the mass media are reporting.

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  • -5

    cleo

    So should we all.

    If the only answer to a problem you can think of it 'Let's kill something/someone', you've got the wrong answer.

    Posted in: Brigitte Bardot slams Australia's plan to kill 2 million feral cats

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    cleo

    it comes with shock and surprise the NRA, does not not a single volcano expert on its committee

    But historically no NPP has ever been put out of action by a volcanic eruption. That means it could never happen. Never in a million years. No point worrying about something that isn't going to happen, is there?

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