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    cleo

    Mako's younger sister is Kako. Kiko is their mum.

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    cleo

    ICJ twisted the logic and said that scientific research and activities for the purpose of scientific research are different

    No, it is Japan that has been trying to twist the logic by claiming that if they allow a few scientists to weigh a few stomachfuls of krill, fertilise a few cow eggs with whale sperm and gouge out a few ear plugs, that justifies their killing as many whales as it takes to keep the deep-freezers full.

    This interpretation of rules took Japan by surprise

    Then whoever was in charge of making the Japanese case at the ICJ is an incompetent fool and a blithering idiot, since this is what people have been saying and objecting to all along.

    Japan could have demonstrated that their research whaling is for the purpose of scientific research

    Could have, should have, would have. But they didn't. Because it isn't.

    Read ICJ ruling here. http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/index.php?p1=3&p2=3&k=64&case=148&code=aj&p3=4

    Thank you for providing a link to the ICJ documents. On P30 of the judgement, it states clearly, even if a whaling programme involves scientific research, the killing, taking and treating of whales pursuant to such a programme does not fall within Article VIII unless these activities are "for purposes of" scientific research. And in the conclusion, on P64, The Court concludes that the special permits granted by Japan for the killing, taking and treating of whales in connection with JARPA II are not "for purposes of scientific research" pursuant to Article VIII, paragraph 1, of the Convention.

    As for the dissenting opinion of Judge Yusuf, who it seems wasn't paying attention during the proceedings or is perhaps a rather trusting soul, he totally misses the point; If it was not designed for purposes of scientific research, it could not have simply stumbled into scientific research activities. Obviously JARPAII did not 'simply stumble into scientific research'; the programme was designed in order to provide a cover for killing whales and slapping them on plates. Article VIII says 'for purposes of scientific research' and so they tried to make it look like scientific research. Just like the Kyoto temples tried to make it look like a religious experience. But it wasn't.

    The more Japan goes on about 'culture', 'tradition' and the reconstruction of the industries of the NE, the more it negates any idea that what it does in the Antarctic is in any way for the purpose of scientific research.

    Posted in: Japan's whaling plans come under scrutiny at IWC meeting

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    cleo

    Japan is seriously doing scientific research, but you people don't believe

    Japan had the chance at the ICJ to demonstrate that what it was doing in the Southern Ocean was for the purposes of scientific research, and it abysmally failed to make its case. Japan is not seriously doing research, it is trying to use smoke and mirrors to mask a blatent fraud. Not unlike the Kyoto temples and shrines some years ago who tried to get around the tourism tax by having tourists trace over a sutra and claiming it was a religious experience.

    Posted in: Japan's whaling plans come under scrutiny at IWC meeting

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    cleo

    charge ¥5000 for 30 minutes to swim in the cove. They would still have to make a racket to drive the dolphins into the cove but only they wouldn't kill them.

    That's pretty steep, isn't it? It's a while back now, but in Ogasawara I remember we paid maybe that much for a 'dolphin swim day tour' - a whole day spent visiting a number (three, if I remember correctly) of particularly pretty parts of the marine national park, snorkelling and going up on a tiny shingle beach for lunch, and at one point in the afternoon we hit a pod of wild dolphins and jumped in to swim with them. Absolutely magical. I wouldn't want to swim in a cove (recently awash with blood?) filled with frightened dolphins that had been coerced in by a 'racket'.

    Forget the cove, go and see the dolphins out in the open sea. I'd pay to do that again.

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    cleo

    The analogy is that when people are already getting around existing laws, making those laws more restrictive can be expected to cause more people trying to circumvent the law or at least those already circumventing will continue to do so.

    Erm, but before the moratorium came into effect there was no moratorium and therefore no 'law' for people to try to circumvent. You have still not shown that there is any reason sensible people should expect Article VIII to be used as a legitimate way to get around the ban on commercial whaling. So I ask you again, prior to the ban on commercial whaling, which countries were using Article VIII to kill whales on a commercial scale, in defiance of a 'law' that didn't exist?

    if you want a traffic analogy, try people with 'handicapped' stickers on their cars parking in the spaces reserved for people who have trouble getting around otherwise. The Japanese made their own rip-off handicapped stickers and stuck them on a whole fleet of vehicles driven by able-bodied fraudsters.

    Posted in: 4 ships start whale hunt off Hokkaido

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    cleo

    Considering it was only a M5.6, it shook a LOT here. Pictures falling of the walls, computer jumping around on the desk, critters going crazy.

    Hope everyone's OK.

    Posted in: M5.6 quake jolts Kanto region; no tsunami alert

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    cleo

    No. Divided we fall, and all that.

    Posted in: Should Scotland be an independent country?

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    cleo

    No Democrat who supported the Iraq invasion should be allowed to run for the White House.

    Agreed, but it should also include Republicans.

    And none of the ordinary idiots who were so supportive of the invasion should be allowed to vote?

    Posted in: Hillary Clinton in Iowa stirs 2016 speculation

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    cleo

    you completely missed the analogy

    I did not miss the analogy, I said it had nothing to do with the topic. You're saying in essence that laws are there to be broken.

    Posted in: 4 ships start whale hunt off Hokkaido

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    cleo

    why do previous users of Article VIII have to have killed large numbers of whales to make it clear that countries could use Article VIII once the moratorium came into effect?

    Because the problem is countries using Article VIII to carry on whaling on a commercial scale, which means large numbers. We aren't talking about one or two animals being taken for a scientist to rummage around in.

    If people consistently break the current speed limit, even by a small amount, then it is pretty clear that lowering the speed limit will result in people continuing to break the speed limit and it is a reasonable assumption that they will even break it by larger amounts because obviously they believe even the current limit is too low.

    I'm not quite sure what that has to do with the topic, and you may not have noticed, but people do break the speed limit, all of the time. Some of them even get fined for it. But there's still a difference between people habitually doing say 90kph in a 80kph zone on the expressway, and some fool doing 150kph in a built-up area where the speed limit is not necessarily marked but common sense as well as the law tells you to slow down.

    obviously their catch has been close to the demand, any more would just lead to lower prices, extra storage and/or disposal costs

    Even their reduced catch is way over the demand. The stuff doesn't sell even at lower prices (hence why they have to try and fob it off onto schools and old people's homes, and put it in pet food labelled その他の肉), and when the government (aka the taxpayer) is footing the bill, extra storage costs are just another aspect of the pork barrel.

    http://ika-net.jp/ja/ikan-activities/whaling/250-sluggish-sales-of-whale-meat

    Posted in: 4 ships start whale hunt off Hokkaido

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    cleo

    Given the choice of sticking the baby in daycare so they can go straight back to work, and having a decent amount of time off to raise the kid(s) plus the ability to go back to work on a full or part-time basis once they're in school, most women would choose the latter. As it is, they're choosing the nearest thing to it currently available - When women do return to work as their children get older, which most do, they generally can only get part-time, lower paying work. Rather than bicker about who's going to pay for the daycare, this is the problem that needs to be addressed.

    Women working in the civil service in Japan can take time off up until the youngest child reaches the age of three, and then reenter the work force at the level they left it. Don't know that that would work with commercial enterprises, but the idea that a woman who has spent a number of years caring for children is fit for nothing but low-paid, disposable jobs needs to change.

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    cleo

    When did he say that?

    The article says he said it. And also from the horse's mouth - Mr Salmond's Scottish National Party has previously backed the idea of Scotland joining the single currency, but today he ruled it out. 'There's no prospect of them being members of the euro and currently and for the foreseeable future there's no prospect of Scotland, an independent Scotland, being a member of the euro,' he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2263225/No-prospect-Scotland-joining-euro-Alex-Salmond-insists-boasts-EU-welcome-open-arms.html

    Posted in: Independent Scotland will need big currency reserves - Bank of England

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    cleo

    What happens if officer Wilson is NOT found guilty?

    He can't be found either guilty or not guilty if he doesn't get his day in court.

    if Wilson walks, if it is found that he was justified for shooting a thug, abusive violent kid, can you guys accept it and move on? I just want a simple answer.

    Back at you, bass; if Wilson gets the day in court that he's entitled to and the verdict is that he's guilty of first-degree murder, of wilfully killing an unarmed teenager standing in the road with his hands up, can you accept that? You've shown more passion in declaring Brown a thug who deserved to be shot dead than anyone has who is asking that the wheels of justice be allowed to turn.

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    cleo

    OhKay....so which country before the moratorium used Article VII to kill large numbers of whales, making it clear that Japan (or some other country) would likely use it to continue commercial whaling under another name once the moratorium came into effect?

    The failure to take a thousand whales per year is not for want of trying. It's only thanks to Sea Shepherd the quota has not been reached.

    Some proof would be nice.

    Dunno if it's proof, but it's what the Japanese whalers say.

    The catch was smaller than planned due to factors including weather conditions and sabotage acts by activists," an agency official was quoted

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-17312460

    It's a pity the whalers couldn't have interpreted Article VIII with as much attention to detail as you interpreted my comments.

    Posted in: 4 ships start whale hunt off Hokkaido

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    cleo

    Mike O'Brian -

    But that is the way Japan has used Article VIII. How many other countries have done the same? And if no other country used Article VIII in that way before the moratorium, why would the IWC assume that any would after?

    The failure to take a thousand whales per year is not for want of trying; the quota has been for close to 1000 (850 minke, 50 fin, 50 humpback, plus or minus 10%) just in the Antarctic. It's only thanks to Sea Shepherd the quota has not been reached.

    And that was one point in the ICJ ruling; that although Japan set itself these huge quotas as being the minimum needed to meet its 'research' goals and year after year failed to make the quota the 'research' goals and methods were not changed to accommodate the lower number of 'samples'.

    Posted in: 4 ships start whale hunt off Hokkaido

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    cleo

    The referendum is not a vote for the SNP and its policies

    Exactly, so how come Salmond thinks he gets to rule things out before anyone has cast a vote for anything?

    Posted in: Independent Scotland will need big currency reserves - Bank of England

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    cleo

    aiming to join the euro - something Salmond has ruled out.

    If the Yes vote wins, there will be a Scottish election to elect a Scottish Parliament. Surely that Parliament will decide whether or not Scotland should move to join the euro, not Salmond. Does he think Scotland will become his own personal fiefdom?

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    cleo

    Star-viking - My better half is also Japanese, and he doesn't give a d@mn, never has.

    Posted in: Demographic crisis empties out Japan's rural areas

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    cleo

    the worker who talked to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch said he could not tell if Brown's motion toward Wilson after the shots was "a stumble to the ground" or "OK, I'm going to get you, you're already shooting me".

    After the shots?

    the worker described a shot fired while Brown was running away.

    What possible explanation can there be for a cop to shoot at a person who is running away?

    he threw his hands up and started screaming OK OK OK OK OK and then the three officers come through the thing and the one just started shooting

    He started shooting after Brown put his hands up and screamed OK OK OK?

    From this account it seems there were three officers on the scene ...?

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    cleo

    it breaks down to liberal and conservative

    Maybe to you, bass, everything breaks down to politics, but that isn't how things work in the real world.

    I am not saying it's true or not

    Yes you are, you are basing your judgement of Brown's supposed actions on stuff you say 'people make up', putting it out there like it was undisputed fact, and when you're pushed into a corner you wimp out with 'it's just my opinion'.

    A very poor show, bass. Very poor indeed.

    No matter how many excuses you make

    I've made no excuses for anyone.

    Brown was the one that initiated the confrontation first.

    1)You claim to be a journalist, please try to write like one without mangling the English language. initiated first?? And Wilson initiated second, did he? At the very least, get yourself a good dictionary and use it.

    2)Brown could not initiate anything until Wilson stopped his car. Or are you now imagining that, being a big lad, he was able to maybe grab the rear bumper and physically force the police car to a stop?

    Wilson had every right to shut that kid down.

    That's your opinion, based on ...what? Your gut feeling? Your contempt for those parts of American society you don't like? The 'evidence' of people you've just agreed have no more credibility than people who have given the exact opposite 'evidence'? Or are you saying that any cop in America has the right to go around shooting down lippy kids?

    I'm just telling you what I believe and spoken to other friends of mine that are cops that believe different, why ask them

    Indeed, why ask them, none of them were there, they know no more than you or I do.

    I don't know exactly, nor do I have the info and to be honest, I really don't care,

    In a nutshell. Hot air, bass. You've spent several weeks posting comment after comment on something you really don't care about?

    I'm just giving my opinion about this kid, just like you guys do,

    I have not given any opinion about Brown.

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