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cleo
So even when it happens often enough to have people concerned, it's just too bad?
Governments and agencies throughout the world implement conservation measures by taking pot-shots at animals from a helicopter? Yeah right.
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cleo
Seems like you're saying the only 'safe' places in America are the gated communities where rich people with armed security guards live. How sad. (And if those rich people still need armed security guards in their gated communities, it doesn't say much for the safety of the rich communities, does it?)
Maybe if the only guns available to the criminals were rusty old antiques and dodgy pieces, anyone firing a gun would be as likely to hurt themselves as their victim (viz. the bloke in Woolich in London yesterday, who shot at police and blew his own thumb off) and therefore less likely to shoot at all?
Why do Americans need to live in gated communities to feel safe, when the rest of the world doesn't?
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cleo
Speechless. At least they caught the sickos.
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cleo
Ossan -
I have always understood the concept of conservation, thank you. What I do not and will never understand is the idea that shooting at a terrified, fleeing animal from a moving vehicle and wounding it so that it takes a long, long time to die in agony and suffering is in any way to the 'greater good' of anyone or anything, unless someone somewhere is profiting from it in some way.
the_odeman -
I have had terminally-ill pets, some of whom I had put to sleep to end their suffering. But I never, ever, chased after a terminally-ill pet and took pot shots at it out of a helicopter, or left one to lie bleeding under the hot sun until it expired.
If the number one concern is the welfare of the animal, this is not the way you do it.
Posted in: Australia to cull 10,000 wild horses
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cleo
Hard to tell from the article whether the cull is because the 'animals are suffering' or because they are 'destroying the land'.
Either way, I doubt many people will see shooting them from helicopters as the most humane way to go about it.
A quick google shows that this culling has been going on in different parts of Australia for a number of years now, and has animal-loving Aussies in uproar. There is evidence that the horses are shot at but not necessarily killed, and are left maimed and in suffering for days.
Shame on the Australian government.
http://www.sosnews.org/newsfront/?p=86
http://pindanpost.com/2012/11/27/control-of-unwanted-horses-shot-from-helicopters/
The claim is also being made that the aim is to remove the horses from the land so that it can be used to raise cattle. Presumably in that case food and water will miraculously appear.
http://www.animaljusticeparty.org/2013/01/15/lake-gregory-wa-aerial-brumby-culling-january-2013/
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cleo
Sounds like your 'rights' take precedence over your family's safety. You don't think it's selfish to make them live in a place you describe as invaded by gangs? You have no obligation to keep them safe, or to raise your kids in a healthy environment? They must live in fear because of your 'right' to choose where to live? How is that not chronically selfish?
If it's a gang-infested hellhole, I don't see how you can afford not to take your family to a safer location, somewhere they can take part in an innocent parade without some looney firing shots at them. Seems like a no-brainer to me. The safety of my family is paramount.
America is a very large and diverse country, with a large and diverse variety of people and cultures within it. Why would you need to 'keep running' if you moved to a nice part of the country? Are you saying that there is nowhere in America where people are safe from gangs, drug-pushers and other people who live by the gun? Looks like the conversation has come full circle again.
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cleo
What lucabrasi and sakurala said. Some of us are here because we just like it. The spouse and job are bonuses, the icing on the cake. It was never about the money.
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cleo
Does not compute. Do they last 6 months, or one year? Six months isn't very long for stuff that's supposed to be stashed away for emergencies. It has to be replaced every six months, whether or not there's an emergency?
Considering all the other canned/pouched emergency foods on the market at reasonable prices, this definitely does not compute.
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cleo
Mmm, Americans come and tell us they need their guns because America is so violent and scary, then more Americans come and tell us that ain't so, it's just as peaceful as any other developed country and maybe even more so. If the first set of Americans are correct, surely anyone who chooses to live there is crazy; why not get out and live somewhere nicer and safer, where people are more normal? If the second set of Americans are correct, those who see threats around every corner are paranoid. Either way, 'more guns, please' is not the answer.
Yes, if it's such a hellhole, move out.
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cleo
Yoshihiro Hattori
"There was no thinking involved. I wish I could have thought. If I could have just thought,"
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/05/24/us/acquittal-in-doorstep-killing-of-japanese-student.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm
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cleo
By getting shot by some armed paranoid who sees threats on the streets all around him and is intent on 'protecting' himself without hesitation.
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cleo
But come on what? A group of highly-skilled, crack marksmen are unable to use a tranquiliser gun to subdue an animal half the size of any one of them?
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cleo
You didn't read that it had to be shot. What you read was that it was shot, by one of a group of people whose hobby is killing things for fun.
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cleo
There is a very sick sicko loose in Ichihara.
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cleo
Well the reason for the Beware of the Dog sticker on my door is to warn neighbours, deliverymen, etc., not to open the door without first ringing the bell or wander into the garden unannounced - they don't do it so much now, but it used to be a problem. It has the secondary effect of warning any potential intruder/burglar that within these walls lies a critter likely to raise the alarm should unauthorised entry be attempted.
This being Japan of course I don't suppose anyone would believe or understand an NRA sticker, but in a place where such things are commonplace I would imagine it would encourage said burglar, if he was determined to get his sticky paws on my riches, to make sure he was well armed and got his shot in first before the toothless cretin who resides within had time to load and aim. The good thing about Japan is that you can be reasonably sure no burglar is going to be armed, unless you've got yourself in serious trouble with the yaks.
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cleo
sailwind -
Yes indeed. But Do you want a dog for protection? is not the same question as Does owning a dog provide you a sense of protection? I would honestly answer No to the first, Yes to the second. And I have no interest in owning a big tough vicious dog.
Yes, I thunk about it. A 'Beware of the Dog' sticker shows you're an animal-lover (you don't want people opening your door willy-nilly like they are wont to do out here in the inaka and letting your dog out); a 'Proud Member of the NRA' sticker shows you're a spineless jerk who gets his grit from a gun.
bass4funk -
For what? What about him is to be respected?
You mean you like having people shot at the rate of three an hour?
Not sure what the reference to Piers Morgan is - I sound like a Sun/News of the World journalist? Heaven forbid. I assume he must have said something about guns, but I've no idea what.
Wouldn't that infringe grossly on some Amendment or other? Something to do with the right of the people to be secure in their persons, against unreasonable searches, probable cause and other freedom-related stuff like that?
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cleo
bass4funk -
Sorry, but you haven't proven anything except that you wanna gun. That was established at the beginning. You're never going to convince me that it's a good idea to have guns readily available in a country that you yourself claim is awash with loonies. (Not sure what I love my country has got to do with anything...)
I'd never heard of Ted Nugent, did a quick google ... Ugh. What a creep. Illegitimate kids all over the place, failure to pay child support, messing around with a teenager while still married, running canned hunts, illegal hunting (which earned him a hunting ban, 2 years' probation and a $10,000 fine), a potty mouth and so-called patriot who was also a draft-dodger, ie a spineless, self-centred hypocrite. Sorry, but if that kind of gold-plated dyed-in-the-wool jerk is your hero, I don't think you and I are ever going to find common ground on anything.
What I think is pretty obvious: that without such easy access to firearms the loonies in New Orleans would not have been able to shoot up a parade and hurt so many people.
As for visiting New Orleans for the food - I did another quick Google, everything seems to have meat in it apart from beignets, which are fried and covered in refined sugar....don't think the food scene in New Orleans is really my kind of scene.
sailwind-
But I do apply the same rational sentiment. Anyone who wants either a dog or a gun in order to hurt someone else, isn't fit to have one.
So for 90% it wasn't the main reason. I think 90% fits the definition of 'most', don't you?
In many cases just having a 'Beware of the dog' sticker on the front door acts as protection. A little yappy dog who can alert the owner or the general neighbourhood to the presence of a stranger/intruder, is great protection. A dog doesn't need to be big, tough and mean to provide protection, and someone who wants a dog for protection isn't necessarily going to choose a mean breed. You and your mini-pin know that, of course.
Guns used for sport can be kept safely locked up at the shooting range; they don't need to be kept loaded at home.
Don't get me started on hunting.
I couldn't agree more. I'm a responsible dog owner and I'm a good person. Honest.
Sorry, but it comes back again to why people want guns. For sport, target practice - fine, keep them at the shooting range out of harm's way. To shoot intruders - those people are of the same mindset as the pumpkins who think having a big tough vicious dog makes them big and tough as well. It doesn't. Quite the opposite, they're rather pathetic, getting their grit from a dog or a gun. So yes, it is the exact same standard; if you want your dog/gun for the purpose of hurting or intimidating other people, then that's a no-no.
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cleo
sailwind, let's look at the stats, shall we?
http://www.dogsbite.org/pdf/8-year-dog-bite-fatality-chart-dogsbiteorg.pdf
In the 8 years 2005 to 2012, 251 Americans died as a result of dog attack (The number of Americans killed unintentionally by guns was over 600 in a one-year period, remember). Of these, 75% of the dogs involved were pit bulls (60%) and Rottweilers (13%). While there are some people who keep these breeds because they respect the breed or for other legitimate reasons, far too many owners of these 'big tough' breeds choose the dog precisely because of the breed's reputation for aggression towards strangers and actually train the dog to develop its aggression, or at the least do nothing to ameliorate its aggressive tendencies. And of course when the untrained or inappropriately-trained dog does attack, it's always 'But, but he's never shown aggression before'. Admit to owning a vicious dog, and the legal penalties are greater when it does hurt someone. (To paraphrase the gun argument, it isn't the dogs that are the problem, it's the kind of people who want to own that kind of dog who are the problem.)
So yes, people who choose a big tough dog for the purpose of 'protectin' mah fahmleh' are pretty much of a type with those who feel the need to keep loaded firearms in the house for protection. Both are paranoid, and palpably not fit to handle the method of 'protection' they have chosen. If you're stable, you don't need either big tough dogs or big tough guns to make you feel safe.
That doesn't mean all dog owners or all owners of large dogs or even all owners of pit bulls are bad; there are many, many reasons for wanting to own a dog, and for most dog owners protection is probably way, way down the list. The main reason most people want a dog, in my experience, is to have something to love and care for and to be a companion. The only use for a gun, however, is to shoot someone. So yes, actually it is quite simple.
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cleo
So thought Rodney Peairs.
But how do you know if there is any other recourse or not, if you are going to shoot without hesitation?
No you haven't. A while back you produced some links to stories of yobboes with knives in Europe. Not a one of those links provided any suggestion that people need to arm themselves with a Glock whatever-it-was and shoot without hesitation at anything that scares them.
If it's stats that you want:
http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-deaths-and-injuries-statistics/
In 2010, guns took the lives of 31,076 Americans in homicides, suicides and unintentional shootings. This is the equivalent of more than 85 deaths each day and more than three deaths each hour.
Between 1955 and 1975, the Vietnam War killed over 58,000 American soldiers – less than the number of civilians killed with guns in the U.S. in an average two-year period
In the first seven years of the U.S.-Iraq War, over 4,400 American soldiers were killed. Almost as many civilians are killed with guns in the U.S., however, every seven weeks
In 2010, unintentional firearm injuries caused the deaths of 606 people.
From 2005-2010, almost 3,800 people in the U.S. died from unintentional shootings.
Over 1,300 victims of unintentional shootings for the period 2005–2010 were under 25 years of age.
People of all age groups are significantly more likely to die from unintentional firearm injuries when they live in states with more guns, relative to states with fewer guns. On average, states with the highest gun levels had nine times the rate of unintentional firearms deaths compared to states with the lowest gun levels.
A federal government study of unintentional shootings found that 8% of such shooting deaths resulted from shots fired by children under the age of six
And to back them up, a few anecdotes to add flavouring:
http://raniakhalek.com/2013/05/01/at-least-9-toddlers-were-involved-in-accidental-shootings-in-april/
April 1: A 3-year-old in Sandy Springs, Georgia, shot himself in the thumb with .380 pistol
April 6: A 4-year-old boy in Wilson County, Tennessee, accidentally fired a pistol during a family cookout, striking and immediately killing a sheriff deputy’s wife
April 7: Rekia Kid,22, was sleeping with her 3-week-old and 2-year-old at their home in Carroll County, Tennessee, when the toddler accidentally fired a Glock 9 mm he found hidden underneath Kid’s pillow, striking his mother in the stomach.
April 8: A 4-year-old Ocean County, New Jersey boy shot his 6-year-old neighbor, Brandon Holt, in the head during a play date
April 9: In Sumter, South Carolina, 3-year-old Qui’ontrez Moss accidentally killed himself with a gun that belonged to his uncle
April 12: Gavin Brummett, 7, accidentally shot himself in the head with a semiautomatic 9mm handgun
April 14: 9-year-old Shayla May Shonneker was playing in her back yard when she was struck in the face by a bullet that came from inside her house
April 16: A 6-year-old girl in Mission, Kansas, was accidentally shot in the leg by her 14-year-old cousin
April 20: A 2-year-boy reached into his father’s pocket, pulled out a gun and accidentally shot himself in the chest
April 22: A 3-year-old shot a 10-month-old in the face with a loaded handgun while left temporarily unattended in their parents car
April 27: A 4-year-old Henrico County, Virginia boy was shot in the leg by his 10-year-old sibling who accidentally fired a gun he had located in their home.
April 30: A 5-year-old boy in Kentucky accidentally shot and killed his 2-year-old sister with a .22-caliber rifle he received as a gift.
All in the same month. All kiddies. Probably every one of those guns was bought with the intention of 'protectin' mah fahmleh'. And the owners of the guns likely thought they were responsible, legal gun-owners exercisin' their constitutional rights.
And that's only unintentional shootings. If you want a comparison of stats on overall crime in a country where not everyone feels the need to carry a gun for protection:
http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/United-Kingdom/United-States/Crime
Murders committed by youths:
UK 139 (ranked #29th)
US 8,226 (ranked #3)
Murders with firearms:
UK 14 (ranked #29)
US 9,369 (ranked #1)
Total crimes:
UK 6,523,706 (ranked #2)
US 11,877,218 (ranked #1)
As is evident from the Total Crimes stat, the Brits are certainly no goodie-two-shoes; but the gun crime stats speak for themselves.
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cleo
Just like Rodney Peairs. How do you think you can ascertain that the threat is serious enough if you're intent on, as you said earlier, shooting without hesitation?
Mm, no one needs to be paranoid. It's a mental illness. And if you are going to shoot someone without hesitation because you're convinced without reason (no time to assess a reason if you're shooting without hesitation) that they're a threat to you, then I'm sorry, but you are the one who is going to be attacking people.
Then seriously, why do people in other countries get by without carrying guns and without getting shot/knifed/drowned by all the loonies? And why can't America do whatever it is all those other countries are doing right?
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