Tuesday February 14, 2012

cleo's past comments

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    cleo

    illsayit, I make no claim to know anything of Aussie politics. The quote is obviously a quote (in italics an' all) and clearly attributed to the person who said it. I'm sure the activists' expressed reasons for their actions are relevant to the story, whether or not anyone else understands or agrees with them.

    Anyway, this topic has shifted to its own thread. You saw it here first.

    Posted in: Japan whaling fleet obstructed by Sea Shepherd

  • 3

    cleo

    Yup, I can think of some places where the hapless animal would be 'dealt with' by the local Ryoyukai and end up in a nabe doused in soy sauce.

    Posted in: Australian family wakes to find crocodile in living room

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    cleo

    they broke the law to invade into government property being the vessel.

    They're still (deliberately, I imagine) breaking the law, but the Shonan Maru 2 is the property of Kyodo Senpaku Kaisha, not the Japanese government.

    Posted in: 3 Sea Shepherd activists detained aboard Japanese whaling vessel

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    cleo

    your posting that word'pre-election promise' like it means something. Obviously you havent been following Australian politics.

    Whether I've been following Aussie politics or not is neither here nor there. They're Mr. Petterfy's words, not mine. You need to take it up with him and his mates. After they've finished talking with the whalers, I imagine.

    Posted in: Japan whaling fleet obstructed by Sea Shepherd

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    cleo

    More

    "No decision has been made yet on the fate of the men who boarded the vessel," ICR spokesman Glenn Inwood said.

    "But they risk being taken back to Japan to face charges and possible imprisonment.

    http://www.smh.com.au/environment/whale-watch/japanese-whalers-issue-jail-threat-to-activists-20120108-1ppuz.html

    (The boarding happened inside the 200-mile Aussie exclusive economic zone, from which whaling ships are supposedly excluded....)

    Posted in: Japan whaling fleet obstructed by Sea Shepherd

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    cleo

    Developments.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/three-activists-prisoners-after-slipping-aboard-japanese-ship/story-e6frg6nf-1226239220637

    THREE Australian activists have been detained by authorities accompanying the Japanese whaling fleet after slipping aboard their vessel.

    The activists took the action to board the ship because the Japanese were operating in contempt of Australian courts and in defiance of the will of Australian people, they said.

    "We are onboard this ship because our government has failed to uphold its pre-election promise to end whaling in the Southern Ocean," Mr Peterffy said.

    They hope the action will remind the government of what they say is its obligation to prohibit whaling vessels in Australian waters.

    They are "insulted and disappointed" in the government for allowing the transit of whale poaching vessels in Australian waters, Mr Peterffy said.

    So far the icr doesn't seem to be saying anything.

    Posted in: Japan whaling fleet obstructed by Sea Shepherd

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    cleo

    >I know more than a few couples who actually have gone for help and they've basically put ALL the blame one person - the wife.

    Sounds a bit like the disgruntled CharismaMen with Japanese exs we meet on JT.....

    Posted in: 'Getting help' is not un-Japanese; it's expensive

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    cleo

    Contains gelatin.

    ...sigh....

    Posted in: Chocolate pudding

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    cleo

    belief in puppets thrown in the fire and superstitions do not upset anybody and i don't see anybody making a mockery of this...

    Basically because not even the people buying the darumas really believe they bring good luck or anything, it's just a harmless custom. No one's life is ruled by a daruma.

    Posted in: Fiery fate

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    cleo

    Not sure about this 'mixed kids are unique' thing.

    All kids are unique.

    Well, someone SHOULD look down on my kids from time to time, it would do them good. They get treated like rock-stars at their schools and it is going right to their kawaii little heads! Maybe we have been lucky, or maybe it is just not the same outside the big cities, I dont know. But I have never really felt my kids have faced any discrimination at all. Quite the opposite in fact. They seem to be the "poster kids" for the schools

    My experience is the same, and their kawaii little heads are not so little anymore. Our little rural town also has Philippino haafs, Chinese haafs and Taiwanese haafs who may not stand out as much as my UK haafs but who also do not seem to suffer from this so-called well-known ubiquitous looking-down on haafs that we are told goes on everywhere.

    Posted in: Exploring two cultures

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    cleo

    The man broke down her door and had a knife in his hand. Shouting a warning would give him the chance to reach and disarm her.

    She had over 21 minutes before he opened the door to shout out a warning. Maybe that would have spurred him to go off and steal himself a gun from somewhere. It would also have given the law more time to get to the scene, talk to her, ensure her safety and then go after the thugs - she knew who they were.

    Posted in: Oklahoma woman asks 911 operator for permission to shoot intruder

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    cleo

    I used to give blood regularly both in the UK and in Japan. I gave in Japan so often I filled up several of the little red stamp cards they give you, and was given a lapel badge. Even asked to appear on local TV urging people to give blood. Then mad cow happened and a couple of trips back home meant my blood was no longer required - nor the kids', since they came with me. The man was very nice about it and even gave me a dozen eggs as a consolation prize.

    Posted in: Blood donation campaign

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    cleo

    Newsman, I knew everything too when I was 18 :-)

    It's the uncalled-for, over-the-top praise that bothers me. So many people so ready to hoot'n'holler 'cause she used her gawd-given right to own a gun. As for whether her actions are unimpeachable - as in unquestionable? No. Nothing is ever unquestionable. Ask questions, find out what really happened, then decide. Never be afraid to ask questions.

    Posted in: Oklahoma woman asks 911 operator for permission to shoot intruder

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    cleo

    Some quotes from your link, Ossan -

    (JARPA1)

    there was some disagreement over the necessity for the use of lethal research methods

    JARPA results were not required for management under the Revised Management Procedure

    For humpback whales the abundance estimates provided useful steps towards acceptable estimates of abundance (without killing a single whale)

    The estimation of natural mortality was the main initial objective of JARPA. However, the confidence limits around the current estimate spanned such a wide range that the parameter is still effectively unknown (=thousands of dead whales, and no results)

    the nature of the analyses presented at the JARPA review meant that relatively little progress had been made in addressing the role of Antarctic minke whales in the ecosystem.

    If a Sanctuary is in place, it can be argued that information on improving management of whaling in that region is unnecessary. On many occasions, the Commission has (by majority vote) passed a Resolution urging Japan not to issue a permit for these catches.

    (JARPA2)

    At the 2007 Annual meeting there was considerable disagreement over the value of this research

    In 2005 a Resolution was passed (30 votes to 27 votes with 1 abstention) that strongly urged the Government of Japan to withdraw its JARPA II proposal or to revise it so that any information needed to meet the stated objectives of the proposal is obtained using non-lethal means

    In 2007 the Commission passed a Resolution asking Japan to refrain from issuing a permit for JARPA II

    Looks like the IWC isn't terribly impressed with the lethal 'research' programme.

    Posted in: Japan whaling fleet obstructed by Sea Shepherd

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    cleo

    Nicky is right; it is easy 'To sit here behind our computers all cosy and warm and say "She should have done X, she should have done Y".' What bothers me is how common is the knee-jerk 'yee-haw' reaction of the gun crowd sitting behind their computers and supporting the lethal use of arms without even bothering to check the facts, and even creating stories whereby a pathetic loser after prescription drugs becomes an evil monster whose sole intent 'obviously' is to kill the young mother and her baby. No one is saying that the young thug didn't deserve what he got. But to crow about a death - any death - is surely wrong. It's not a triumph for the gun laws that she shot him/saved herself and her baby; it's an indictment of the protection services that she was put in this situation in the first place (she had complained before about painkilling drugs going missing from her home, so the police knew she was vulnerable) and a huge blot on American society that this kind of crime is common enough to make people feel they need to protect themselves with deadly force. This is not a good news story. It's an embarrassment.

    (The woman herself doesn't make things any better by posing for pictures with a gun, and popping off one-liners like, ‘There’s nothing more dangerous than a woman with a child.’)

    Posted in: Oklahoma woman asks 911 operator for permission to shoot intruder

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    cleo

    While Google raises more questions, it also answers some of the ifs.

    most mobile homes have a front and rear door

    The daily mail reports that she shut herself in the bedroom - only one door to worry about.

    When your terrified in the dark...

    Terrified, I'll give you (though she sounds remarkably calm on the 911 recording). But dark? at 2pm?

    my bet is that forced entry if it was the obvious intent would not have been difficult

    It took longer than 21 minutes. Doesn't seems to have been that easy.

    I'm unclear of why so many - and particularly of the liberal bent - have this mentality that criminals have all sorts of rights.

    I'm unclear why so many - I'm not concerned what bent you are - have this mentality that asking questions and wanting to know the whole story somehow means you're, as smitty puts it, 'condemning her and praising the bad guys.'

    police forces can no longer afford to have the number of officers required to properly patrol every area

    With all these evil crazy drug addicts apparently on the loose, you'd think they couldn't afford not to have the required number of officers.

    Posted in: Oklahoma woman asks 911 operator for permission to shoot intruder

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    cleo

    Then you agree that research is being done.

    Not at all. At least not any kind of research that is meaningful, or necessary, or justifies the deaths of thousands of whales and the wasting of billions of tax yen.

    I could spend an afternoon pulling the legs off spiders then write papers about how many legs a spider needs to get around, what happens when you mix spider legs with hot coffee, stick them into marshmallows, freeze them, mince them up and feed them to the cat, and my 'research' would be no less deserving of recognition and public funding than the whaling 'research'. And about on a level in terms of meaningless cruelty and bloody-mindedness.

    The whales are not being killed for research (the icr claim); the faux 'research' is being done as an excuse to kill whales. It fools no one except those who want to be fooled.

    Whale meat is one ojf Japan staple food

    Absolute rubbish. I've lived in Japan for over 35 years and not once has this so-called 'staple food' ever appeared on any dining table I have shared with Japanese people eating their daily fare. It's about as 'staple' here as grilled sheep's eyeballs.

    Posted in: Japan whaling fleet obstructed by Sea Shepherd

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    cleo

    anyone in such a situation should ALSO be required to own at least one guard and beef up the locks and bar the windows and have all that done in a reasonable amount of time in addition to having the shotgun (time I admit she did not have).

    At 18 I doubt she would have the financial wherewithal to hire a guard (she apparently had to sell most of her guns to pay for the funeral), but in addition to the picture of her posing with the gun there is a picture of her posing with the baby and a huge German Shepherd. I wonder what the dog was doing during the drama.

    The 911 dispatcher confirmed that all the doors were locked, so she did have time to do that even though 'it is not customary to lock one’s doors in the rural community of Blanchard, Oklahoma.'

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2082716/Sarah-McKinley-Teen-mom-shoots-dead-intruder-Justin-Shane-Martin-looking-prescription-drugs.html

    a 12 gauge shotgun fired in the way you suggest (through a window) could still result in an awful lot of blood and pain and even death.

    Does shooting out of the window necessarily mean shooting at people? or even in their direction?

    Posted in: Oklahoma woman asks 911 operator for permission to shoot intruder

  • -6

    cleo

    One problem with these "castle" laws is that some people shoot first and ask questions later.

    Well, she did ask first. She asked if she could get away with it.

    Posted in: Oklahoma woman asks 911 operator for permission to shoot intruder

  • -2

    cleo

    this somehow makes the young thug's act of breaking and entering and brandishing a knife less heinous?

    No, it simply puts a question mark on Dictator's capitalised assertions.

    No one is claiming they were not doing wrong in breaking in. Of course they were doing wrong, though pathetic is probably a more accurate description than evil for low-lifers after prescription drugs. That doesn't necessarily mean she should be taken at her word, or feted like a hero.

    If guns are as effective at deterring crime as the gun crowd claims, surely simply shouting 'I have a gun!' through the door or out of a window - or firing a shot out of the window to show she wasn't bluffing - would have been enough to deter them. If they still came on after that, then fair enough.

    Posted in: Oklahoma woman asks 911 operator for permission to shoot intruder

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