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Posted in: Garbage men find infant's body in plastic bag
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if she didn't properly care for the baby, she basically killed him, not in a brutal way but still her irresponsibility resulted in the baby's death. and if the baby died for other reasons, then even if she was afraid of hospital people calling the police, she should have taken the baby to a hospital or wherever is appropriate, not a garbage place -- this is what I meant by the woman's mentality and that being the problem. She thought she'd get away by throwing the baby out? then she's guilty even if she didn't kill the baby.
Posted in: Garbage men find infant's body in plastic bag
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Monkeyz-
I agree, and that is why I said that this woman might have been in a terrible situation and I would feel sorry -- but Still, throwing a baby with garbage isn't what a person with the right-mind would do even if she got pregnant and she didn't really have a choice, even if she didn't have a job and she was depending on her man and the man didn't want the baby -- even in those situations, someone with the right mind would not put a baby in a bag and throw it away.
I never said this woman was evil, but rather implied ths made a serious mistake and should have known better and should have thought more/better.
Killing and throwing away her baby certainly wouldn't have been the best answer she could come up with if she cared about the baby even a tiny bit.
Posted in: Garbage men find infant's body in plastic bag
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fishy
I see that you said no serious fault, but I'd still see an extremely serious fault. If the baby died because of her fault (not taking care of the baby before he was born), then she literally murdered the baby -- maybe not in a very brutal way like throwing him in a garbage bag, but same mentality -- she thought it would be okay for the baby to die so that she could escape from whatever situation she was in. Whether the baby was already dead or alive, it is a fact that she threw him with garbage. She might have been in a terrible situation, and I would feel sorry for her if she was, but I would not think there was any good-enough excuse to throw a baby (dead or alive) away with garbage. If the baby wasn't found by a garbage man, if she doesn't get caught, perhaps she will make the same mistake again.. she might get pregnant again and then think she could just throw the baby in a garbage bag again. What's more wrong (than the act of throwing the baby away) is the mentality of the woman.
Maybe I am being emotional because I am a woman and a mother, but I don't know, how bad of a situation she was/is in, what could make a woman more miserable than throwing a baby that she just delivered?
Posted in: Garbage men find infant's body in plastic bag
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Really? You wouldn't think the mother did anything wrong if the baby was stillborn? What she did was clearly wrong, even if the baby was stillborn. Maybe she didn't have money to deliver her baby at a hospital, maybe she didn't have money to raise a baby, maybe she didn't have a husband, maybe her family wasn't supportive -- there are all sorts of things that could have been wrong/unfortunate, but you just would NOT throw your baby in a garbage bag. I've read that the baby was wrapped up in a towel, then put in a plastic bag, then in a garbage bag -- clearly her intention was to make the baby disappear and make it look like nothing had happened, but too bad, whatever situation she was in, she should have known what would happen if she got pregnant, she should have known what would happen if she had a baby, she should have known better. If she was poor, if she didn't have supportive family, then she clearly had a choice to NOT get pregnant.
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That's because there had been many grouping incidents in the same area recently and the police had pictures (drawn) of the man based on the victims' testimonies.. and this guy looked just like the man described by the victims.
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Proudnippon-
Re:150,000yen of house payment - I guess I wasn't being clear enough. What I meant by housepayment was a housing loan monthly payment. I was talking about those people WHO USED TO HAVE IT ALL -- House, families, good job -- I am assuming you are married with no kids (feel free to tell me if you have kids and a house). Imagine, a person in his/her 40s, who had a good job/good pay -- bought a house and has 150,000yen monthly payment on top of the kids school and etc. You cannot just move out of the town so easily when you have kids going to school. You cannot easily sell a house especially when the economy isn't so great -- even if you move to a cheap apartment, you still have to make your monthly payment, so it'd be silly to move to an apartment unless you can sell your house, and even if you can sell it, you'd still have a housing loan left unless you've already paid it off.
Now the kids -- if they are in daycare, you know daycares are not cheap, if they go to school, it costs money, if your kids are taking piano lesson, juku, play sports and etc, then that costs you money, too. Kids college fund, insurance and all that ON TOP of the monthly housing loan.
This is called reality, and I am sure well over 5% of the population pay this much or more.
But then again, it'd be easy if it is just you and your wife, especially if your wife is also working, then that's super easy. You just have to support yourself and wife tips in, so no problem. Especially if you are hard working and not fussy, then life is great!!
Now if you still think the world wide problem of this job less rate nowadays is because of people's laziness and fussiness, you are the one who is not looking at the reality. I agree, that there are people who are fussy and lazy, there are many people like that, but then again, there also people who are qualified and educated, motivated and hard working, yet unable to find a job that they can support their lives because of various reasons.
It is NOT a simple lazy and fussy problem -- if that was the problem, no one would give them sympathy. Believe me, I once thought those people were being fussy, I used to think like why don't those people just go to some local restaurant or store to get a job? Better than no job.. I used to think like that, but then I learned more about the worldwide situations and changed the way of my thinking because the problem definitely isn't THAT simple.
If it was that simple, then smart person like YOU could just change the situation and you'd get an award from many countries!!
Posted in: Many will be left behind when job market picks up
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proudnippon-
I don't have anything bad.. I've had my same job for 10 years now and I am keeping it. I was just putting myself in someone else's shoes. I wasn't talking about ME. you misunderstood me.
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Posted in: Many will be left behind when job market picks up
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proudnippon-
again, my English wasn't understood.. sigh... I knew you were talking about YOU. Read my thread again. I never said you talked about ME.
Posted in: Many will be left behind when job market picks up
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Water and canned food -- they last for a long time (and make sure you have a can opener as well). Also suger (again, it last for a long time and it has high calories.
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Zenny-
Exactly!! I think proudnippon was just talking about A job.. Sure it is easy to get a conveni job or skylark waitress job and etc, but can that job support the family and everything that comes with it (kids education, house, etc), it is a simple question but he somehow ignored it and kept saying it is easy to get A job if you are not fussy.
There is a good reason why people get fussy (if I borrow his word).. There are people who cannot work night time (kids at home and etc) and there are people who are working at those conveni, family restaurant, supermarket and etc in order to find THE RIGHT JOB.
and right, 15 jobs -- at least in Japan, that doesn't look so attractive if he was so honest to put that on his resume. I bet he wouldn't, though. I wouldn't be proud of having that many jobs at my age.
Again, you are right, Zenny ... University degree, or even master's degree isn't rare these days.. I have a university degree from a japanese university and also my second BA from France, and sure it helped me get into that door but after that, degree wouldn't help. It is all up to your real ability.
And I would certainly not call those who are having hard times finding the right job lazy.. Everyone is different, all are in different situations and put them in one same category and call them lazy is just wrong.
Posted in: Many will be left behind when job market picks up
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proudnippon- my goodness, you're not fussy but you seem so bitter. you've had 15 jobs, well, good for you, it means you had to change your job every year or two? dont know how old you are, but i mean, geez.. and i think you've misunderstood what i meant.. i knew you were taling about you, i wasn't. and you missed what i said.. i said, anyone can get A job. it isn't difficult to get A job if you are not fussy, i agree with you, but what i mean is it isn't easy to get a job that you can support yourself AND your families/house while taking care of children.
try finding a job in 5 minutes in Kashiwa that someone who has a house payment of 150,000yen/month and has 3 small children.
and you say you are educated? well, i hope you don't mean you have a university degree, because i am sure over 90% of people here on this thread already have at least one university degree, so if you say you are educated based on your degree, then that's not something that'd impress people.
Posted in: Many will be left behind when job market picks up
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proudnippon- well, good for you, but we're not really asking about YOU.. put yourself in others' shoes.. let's say if you are a mother of 2 small children? let's say if you had a house payment of 150,000yen every month and had 3 family members to support -- sure, being not fussy and educated, you can get A job to support yourself but the more you have, the more difficult to support everything that comes with you (not you). again, it is easy for anyone to get A job to support oneself --we're talking about ones with families to support. and we (people here) have a job / jobs and we are doing fine supporting ourselves and families, but we are all putting ourselves in shoes of those who are having problems.
Posted in: Many will be left behind when job market picks up
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i dont get this.. she stubbed her children to try and kill her, then also cut herself to try to kill herself, then called the police and told them that the kids are hurt???????????
the boy was found near the front door tells me that hs tried to run away.. it hurts to imagine.
Posted in: Mother murders her 2 children; then tries to kill herself
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bicultural-
yeah, but what about mothers with small children? when they are fired, their kids cannot go to public daycare anymore and cannot go to gakudo, either.. then she cannot work part time, either. also, often part timers work shift schedule and they cannot work 5 days a week and cannot work 8 hours (employers say no).
and if someone has 2 part time jobs, then it is probably possible to make 200,000yen per month, but for those who have kids in school (high school, college) and have house payment and etc, their life changes dramatically.. for those who used to make good money and suddenly have to live with 200,000yen, they might have to sell their house, if their kids go to private school, might have to transfer them to public school, etc etc..
still, yes, it is possible to eat 3 meals every day with the 200,000yen, but then again, I'm feeling badly for those women with 2 part time jobs with no benefit after losing a full time job.
Posted in: Many will be left behind when job market picks up
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I understand that anyone can have A job if they are educated and hardworking, but can any job support your family? especially if you have kids still in school? Sure there are jobs available at convenience stores, restaurants and etc, but for those who worked hard and who are educated-- with house payments and kids schooling -- can they support their families with the 800yen per hour jobs? And especially for women/mothers who have small kids, those jobs are not always available as public daycares are not available for everyone.
It is easy to say you can get a job if you are not fussy, but open your eyee and see the reality. It's good that you are proud and have confidence, but look outside of your comfort zone before making comment like you did.
Posted in: Many will be left behind when job market picks up
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should be like Are high school kids old enough to be playing adult games? or Are kindergarteners old enough to be... Like jianadaren said, what age definitively defines kids?
Posted in: Are kids old enough to be playing adult games?
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good question. because i wouldn't be talking to my 9-year-old child like i would be talking to a 17-year-old child.
Posted in: Are kids old enough to be playing adult games?
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some14some-
the victim's injury is very minor.. he's already released from the hospital.
and this... the Brazilian guy's last name is Tanaka which is a very common Japanese last name, so yeah, he's very much likely of Japanese ethnicity.
Posted in: Man's throat slashed at front door in possible case of mistaken identity
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aw, i used the word non-japanese only because in the article it said the woman was not japanese so i meant a tiny little bit of sarcasm here..
anyways, i am glad these two were arrested.
Shizuoka has lots of Brazilians, and I hope people don't look at those good Brazilians and give them bad names because of the one bad apple. Same thing about Russians.. This Russian woman is just one bad apple and hope those good Russians won't get harmed in any ways (physically and mentally, especially children in school).
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