Wednesday February 15, 2012

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    grafton

    arrestpaul at 11:00 PM JST - 22nd June

    As far as government and big business goes I agree with you, and Heyward really isn’t the man that should ever have been allowed to get in front of a camera.

    I’m sorry but I think you are giving far too much credit to the intelligence of the “small” people of America in this instance. Obama is trying to play them and the US media has gone along with this for some strange nationalist type reasons of their own. You need to read some of the posts that are being made on both American and British newspapers to see just what level of vitriol this had generated towards Britain. No, Hayward hasn’t help this along, what comes out of that man’s mouth is almost as toxic as what’s coming out of the Gulf sea bed. But his bad attitude and PR is also a god send for Obama who has managed to hide his governments involvement and failures in all this.

    I really am waiting for the court cases to start, because I really can’t see BP taking the blame and paying the price when the co guilty get to walk away. We all know that BP is not that nice and not that forgiving. I can see some US companies going down because of this. Then the question the American people might want to ask is why Obama played games and twisted the truth at this stage of the oil leak.

    The US government didn’t drill that well, but then neither did BP, they were both sent reports from the companies that were doing the drilling and other work and they both believed those reports. Fine BP is the owner and therefore ultimately responsible (and they are paying, though others are trying not to) but isn’t also true that the US government has a responsibility to the American people to make sure these things don’t happen? Where were the US government inspectors?

    Posted in: BP Gulf spill costs hit $2 billion; no end yet

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    grafton

    Chris, I am trying to see if I can send money to support the vuvuzelas big band (12 to 15,000) players of South Africa who do special performances for second rate football teams who need that little extra encouragement. I think England fall into that category. Do Marks and Spenser’s do earplugs? Earplugs may not be the must attractive of accessories but they might be your only answer. By the way who are your team playing?

    Posted in: Should vuvuzelas be banned for the rest of the World Cup soccer games?

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    MrDog at 11:21 AM JST - 21st June

    “They should be banned. Most teams that have a chance of winning the WC are good because they communicate well on the field, the large amount of low-scoring games and underdog-win games must have some link to this- they can't communicate on the pitch because they can't hear each other.”

    Now that really does sound like somebody trying to find a good excuse for bad football.

    I was talking with a South African friend about two hours ago, someone in need of a TV, he tells me these things (vuvuzelas) have only been use for about the last seven years. They are not, as some have claimed, some plastic variation of a Zulu tradition. Quite simply they are audio war fare. Just listen when a member of the team they don’t support gets any where near scoring, that is just not cricket is it?

    I voted for keeping them, but then I hate football and these things just make the ridiculous even more ridiculous.

    Posted in: Should vuvuzelas be banned for the rest of the World Cup soccer games?

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    MistWizard at 10:38 PM JST - 22nd June

    Nobody here has any influence on either the Israelis or Hamas, we cannot continue the blockade or stop it, we come here to discuss the subject and although we may come close to being rude to each other we do usually manage to control out tempers and not allow them to intrude into what we write. No we are not going to make the slightest bit of difference to what is happening in the Middle East but we do have and are allowed to have our opinions, and does include you. To suggest that anything any of the posters writes is “bullcrap” is going too far. I disagree with you and will try to show you why I disagree, I will make comparisons that I hope will allow you to see why I think the way I do, though I doubt that they will have much effect in changing your thinking. No your battered wife analogy was way off because to simply doesn’t work and the reason it doesn’t work is, as always, because you refuse to separate the people of Gaza from Hamas. Now there might be some reason for this in that obviously Hamas are gazans, but then by the same reasoning the leaders of North Korea are North Koreans, but you wouldn’t you in their case merge the two, but you do with Gaza, I don’t and as such see Hamas as the problem, not the Gazan people. Until you can separate these two you will never be able to condemn Israel without facing the obvious answer that Israel are facing a group of people that will never be anything but terrorists who cannot be reasoned with.

    “Then again, maybe you do and you know it well and you just come here to enjoy stirring the crap? Yeah, I have certainly run across those types enough in my life.”

    Maybe you have come across such people because of something in your personality that generates that type of reaction. Many here that you disagree with have shown that there are points on which they agree with you and nobody has wholeheartedly defended all of Israel’s actions. Yet if you had the power to do it you would lift the blockade totally today and allow Hamas the total freedom to do whatever they wish. Your indignation blinds you what the consequences of that would be. No I do not simply mean bigger rockets hitting Israel, I mean Israel hitting Gaza back and killing a large number of Gazans. And that end result would have been created not by Israel but by Hamas. There is no profit to be had fighting a war that cannot be won, a war that only leaves your people dead. And you would give the weapons needed for just such a war to the people that would start such a war. Israel’s blockade may be nasty, but is has probably kept more Gazans alive than it has killed. You are being unrealistic if you believe Hamas cares about the people of Gaza.

    Posted in: Israel drafting new list of goods banned from Gaza

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    smithinjapan at 07:27 PM JST - 22nd June

    “she's thinking long and hard how to blame this on Obama, like others on this site try to do.”

    What was it that Nixon said about the buck and where it stops?

    Something that Obama might have to get used to. Me? I don’t blame him for the accident in the Gulf, but his handling of it has made all Americans look like money grabbing victims of that Imperial nasty Britain. Sorry but bad acting by Obama and that team on the committee isn’t doing the US and favours.

    Posted in: BP Gulf spill costs hit $2 billion; no end yet

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    grafton

    TRichfield

    Thanks for the link, interesting, though the music was not needed at all.

    Posted in: Art attack

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    grafton

    You will remember I have been talking about these other companies for some time now. Strangely nobody else wanted to say anything, it seems even the “small people” didn’t (don’t) want to admit that Americans could have got things wrong.

    Posted in: BP Gulf spill costs hit $2 billion; no end yet

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    grafton

    Finally the American co accused are getting some publicity.

    I just wonder if the bad tempered leader is going to call them to the Whitehouse for a serious talking to? I doubt it, too much campaign money could be lost if he upsets the men with the cheque books.

    What I am waiting for are the court cases when BP can go public with who really was responsible for this accident and who did all they could not to pay a cent towards cleaning up the coast of their own country. I think this scapegoat is going to bite back big time. It will be interesting to see how Obama slides out from under this.

    Posted in: BP Gulf spill costs hit $2 billion; no end yet

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    grafton

    Israel had an allow list and being the typical bureaucrats that exist in all countries they simply stuck to what was allowed. Wrong yes, of course it was wrong. A stop list would have been the way to go and it seems that is what is now to be used. Sadly I do not have that much faith that the bureaucrats wont screw that up too, but you don’t have to be pro or anti Israel to see that one coming.

    “Hamas is not allowed to have even guns, things considered a basic right in some countries.”

    You still can’t get your head around the simply matter of Hamas being the real problem here can you? Fatah have guns and Israel makes no effort to disarm them or block them from getting weapons, but Fatah are (for the most part) using their weapons responsibly. Give Hamas weapons of any kind and they will continue attacking Israel with those weapons. Even if you say Israel have no right to stop these weapons surely from a common sense point of view in makes sense to stop the weapons to take away what could be seen as Israel’s excuse, because that is all Hamas is doing, giving Israel the excuse to do whatever they please. Hamas could never win a war with Israel so what is the point of these meaningless attacks that do nothing but bring down more pain on the people of Gaza?

    “Do you think Israel shares info with Hamas so they can track the perps??? You think Hamas even has a spy drone???”

    Come on! I expect better from you than that. That’s more like a Sabi twist of reasoning. Hamas know exactly who is firing rockets and does nothing to stop them, and you know that as well as I do. I will take you seriously if you don’t slide into silliness.

    “If you live under those conditions I doubt you would stop at rockets.”

    If I wanted peace I would, wouldn’t you?

    Posted in: Israel drafting new list of goods banned from Gaza

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    grafton

    “A Hamas Cabinet minister, Ziad al-Zaza, rejected the Israeli decision, calling it “deception.” He told The Associated Press the blockade must be lifted completely “to allow Gaza to import all necessary materials, particularly cement, iron, raw materials for industry and agriculture, as well as import and export between Gaza and the world.”

    The nitpickers are having their usual go at what Israel keeps out, but take a closer look at what Hamas wants in. “iron, raw materials for industry and agriculture” All materials suitable for the manufacture of either rockets or mortars. Yes, even the agriculture materials. Think about it because I am sure Hamas already have.

    MistWizard

    Allow me to ask you a simple question. Do you think Israel would allow groups of private individuals inside Israel to set up their own rocket launching sites (even very primitive ones) to fire rockets into Gaza and not do something about stopping them?

    If this were to happen you would be one of the first to demand that Israel put a stop to it yet you forgive Hamas for not doing just that in the Gaza. Maybe you are not as fair minded as you believe yourself to be. Remember the last person to be killed by one of these ineffectual rockets out of Gaza wasn’t either Israeli or Jewish. He was a migrant farm worker from somewhere in Asia. So Gaza rockets do kill innocents.

    Posted in: Israel drafting new list of goods banned from Gaza

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    grafton

    I wonder what James Hackett, (chief executive of Anadarko Petroleum) was doing this weekend, hiding the family silver perhaps?

    paulinusa at 12:04 PM JST - 20th June

    “…..and has taken very few vacations”

    How long has Obama been in office? How many vacations do you think he should or could have had in that time? And remember he is the one doing all the ranting about others.

    Posted in: BP CEO's yacht outing infuriates Gulf residents

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    grafton

    Kitty looks batter dressed than Tsuji. What a horrendous pair of shoes? Coordinating her clothes doesn’t seem to be one of her strong points. It might be interesting to see what is in her book without buying it.

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    grafton

    I will quote myself from another post.

    “So you think a suit and tie man like Hayward should be there spanner in hand, hard hat on head doing what the experts can’t do? Beside I thought you thought that he was useless, isn’t it therefore better he not be there getting in the way of all those American experts that have been trying and failing for the last 50 plus days?”

    I hope he had a nice day, after the mindless c??p he has had to deal with the last few days he deserves a rest. I just wonder how many of these complainers along the Gulf coast are simply sitting and waiting to be paid before they do anything to help. Yes they should be paid for working, but if there is nobody doing that why not get out and do something for themselves.

    Posted in: BP CEO's yacht outing infuriates Gulf residents

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    arrestpaul at 03:05 AM JST - 19th June

    “Congress now needs to hold another hearing to grill the federal Minerals Management Department”

    Yes a number of US government departments need to be taken apart to find out why any of this got as far as it did. Maybe some people have become too friendly with the people they were meant to be overseeing. BP shares the guilt, I have never denied that, but having them made the sole scapegoat isn’t going to do the US any good in the long run. What happens next time? And there will be a next time unless somebody takes a long hard look at all those involved rather than shifting the sole responsibility on to one none US company because that is politically expedient at the moment. And that is why I would say that Obama has failed the people of America. He is showing fear of his own big business at the expense of the American people.

    Posted in: BP CEO slammed by lawmakers in U.S. Congress

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    grafton

    I thought the whole circus was fantastic. How Hayward managed to stop himself from laughing I have no idea. I wouldn’t have been able to do it. What a bunch of second rate fools they put on show. I am positive most Americans will be ashamed of what we saw yesterday. That is their government at its best?

    The fact that called the boss of a global company to explain operational details about one rig AND expected him to know what had been happening on a day to day basis before there was a problem is astounding. Hayward has proved his worth to any company that might now be looking for a new CEO, his value went right up and there is no reason why he shouldn’t just walk away leaving Obama the bad actor to deal with his own people who are equally guilty. What a shame the US press is so jingoistic that they find it impossible to tell the whole truth, maybe the American people would like to know just how badly run THEIR oil industry is. I am however surprised that the US oil industry can’t afford to pay for a more professional group of actors than that lot. It was like watch a silly cartoon. I have nothing but respect for how Tony Hayward handle those fools.

    Posted in: BP CEO slammed by lawmakers in U.S. Congress

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    grafton

    nylex4 at 07:18 AM JST - 17th June

    My apologies, I pasted out of the wrong post.

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    grafton

    No, your wife can’t have it back, it’s mine now. I’ll fight you for it though. It’s part of Afghan culture, we rob anything we can get our hands on and then fight over keeping it.

    Posted in: Bye-bye

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    grafton

    The real difference between crazy Muslim extremists and crazy Christian extremists is that the Muslims are better at murdering people. Granted this could be a very good cover story by a real CIA man. Some how I really don’t think that is the case though.

    Posted in: American man on solo mission to kill bin Laden detained in Pakistan

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    grafton

    ““Many of my friends love the country of Japan, and they all ask the same question: Why do you need to slaughter dolphins?””

    And the only person who invited him to speak at a Japanese university was an English language teacher. This could indicate that he has no Japanese friends.

    No, I do not want dolphins killed, but I don’t believe this is the way to go about stopping that killing. Think of your home counties and ask how you would feel, how your fellow countrymen would feel if a group of Japanese film makers did something of this kind there? Being provocative and pushing people into tight corners gets very negative reactions. Now the Japanese feel they are being accused yet again of yet another crime. And some of you prattle on about Japan’s victim mentality, is it any wonder given the freedom to denigrate everything Japanese we see around the would? This site almost specialises in a level of Japan bashing that would never be tolerated on this site if directed at any other country. This is not the way to change things that may very well need changing.

    Posted in: 'Cove' star calls on Hollywood to save dolphins

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    grafton

    “And there’s always the potential that such a discovery could bring unintended consequences, including corruption and civil war.”

    “could bring”? Somebody has got to be joking here. The Afghans have been fighting some one, any one, each other for as long as there have been people living in that dirt pit. It might even be argued that fighting is their culture. And corruption is also a normal everyday part of Afghan life, it is the only oil that they have to keep things moving.

    Now don’t all get upset and say that I am being insulting about the Afghans, I’m not, that is how that country has always worked and it is still working that way. That is their way and who are we to say that they are wrong just because it isn’t how we would do things. All that Afghanistan has vast mineral wealth will do is enlarge things. That is if they can ever manage to stop killing each other and anybody else that might get in the way long enough for the rail tracks and power stations to get built.

    The only way those mines are ever going to be built is if the whole Afghan population get s relocated someplace else (without guns). Pennsylvania sounds just fine to me. The UN could do a new Israel, of sorts.

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