Wednesday February 15, 2012

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    Pukey2 at 08:23 AM JST - 1st June

    “This is one of the most dangerous men on the planet.”

    “Why?”

    I really wouldn’t want you to think that I was being impolite to you in any way but I do need to ask you if you know that this man is the ruler of China? You that big country just to the left of Japan where lots and lots of people get executed and others get sent to prison when they don’t agree with this man and his friends.

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    MistWizard at 07:37 AM JST - 1st June

    Your nitpicking to support the unsupportable. Anybody with half a brain can see it was a set up from the very beginning. Israel’s mistake was that they went in too early and as such have given the global nitpickers something to hide behind. Why not simply face reality, even if you really hate Israel this one isn’t down to them.

    Posted in: Israeli commandos storm aid flotilla; 10 killed

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    This is one of the most dangerous men on the planet. There is no way I would let him get close enough to bite my child and that is what it looks like he is about to do.

    Posted in: Wen ever

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    grafton

    I find it both sad and cruel that these older women are being led along their own delusional paths for the entertainment of others. Would it not have been kinder either to find them roles that are more appropriate to their age or simply take them out and shoot them? As Susana York (no it wasn’t Jane Fonda) once said “They shoot horses don’t they?”

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    Molenir

    You are wasting you time, those that want to accuse Israel will do so whatever they see on the TV news or read in the newspaper. Their reasoning has nothing to do with truth it is simple, Israel is the bad country and therefore what ever they do and why ever they do it must by definition also be bad. Palestinians of course can do no wrong, because as the Palestinians have told everybody they are the victims and it is only right that victims must be defended.

    I think we know BS when we see, unless it happens to be Palestinian BS in which case the gullible swallow it whole. If it wasn’t so sad and so serious I would find it funny. Many of the people on these ships are genuinely honest people that believe they are doing something worthwhile for people they believe are in great need and I would go on to say that many in Gaza very likely are in great need. They are in need in much the same way that the people of North Korea are in great need. Only in the case of NK nobody is so stupid as to point the finger of blame at South Korea or the US (except of course NK). The people of Gaza are simply one of the weapons used by Hamas and the gullible do gooders on those ships are another weapon. Delusional champions riding to the rescue of the poor Palestinians who are falling about laughing at them behind their backs for being so incredibly stupid. The people of Gaza are in a bad way because of Hamas, not Israel, but that line doesn’t suit the left leaning Western media, the very media that has so indoctrinated these peacenik fools into believing in Hamas.

    This confrontation was planned from the outset, it was designed to drive a wedge between Israel and the rest of the world, it was further designed to bring to an end any possibility of any good coming from any peace talks. Any fool that cannot see how these good but gullible people have been manipulated is making a choice not to see the obvious. Using what world “leaders” are now saying publicly as a way of proving their argument is laughable. What we are seeing is yet another nail in the coffin of Western democracy, one more Muslim nail. The ships were very unlikely to have been smuggling weapons, because the people behind these ships would not want that kind of evidence showing up and they knew perfectly well that those ships stood no chance of ever getting to Gaza. But that does not mean that there were not a few hand guns ready to start the desired fire fight and of course the knives and clubs. We have all by now seen the film, we have seen how many peaceful Turks attacked how many dangerous Israelis. We have all seen the first Israeli who set foot on the ship thrown down from one deck to the next. He stood no chance of defending himself, none did as they came down the ropes and as we have seen none were at that time firing their weapons.

    None of this is enough, because it isn’t what many want to hear, it doesn’t suit your view of how the Israeli killers go about things. So even seeing it on film is not enough for you. A closed mind is the mind of a bigot and that is what we are seeing today. I have never read such stupidity before as I have read here today, excuse after excuse after excuse for what any intelligent person would see as obvious. Yes I do want a full UN investigation of what happened, I want many here to be shown what utter fools and bigot they really are. Your are supporting the people that will make sure that there is never any peace in the Middle East, until there isn’t a Jew left alive there. As you revel in you indignation think how proud you will feel when that final victory is yours and there are again millions of dead Jews for you to say you never believed people could do such things to each other. You may by then have forgotten that you played your part. As is normal for your kind.

    Posted in: Israeli commandos storm aid flotilla; 10 killed

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    grafton

    I can’t see what all the fuss is about anymore, this game was started some weeks back and ended when the shooting started. The Palestinian puppets got shot and that was the best the Palestinian could have hoped for. Whatever happened Israel lost out, there was no way to get out of the mess that had been designed to be a mess for them. And yes Mr.Smith, I do think that Israel is in the right this time. They didn’t go out looking for these people, these people came looking to start trouble and did so, as planed. Now the gutless so called world leaders that have shown Islam that they are frighten of anything that might involve a Muslim backlash will say how dreadful the Israelis have been, not because they believe this anymore than most here do, but because once says this they must all follow for fear of being the one that says the truth and has to face the peaceful Muslim backlash, remember 9 11, Madrid and London, very peaceful way of saying we don’t agree with you. This is over, Israel lost, now the gullible mugs can rave on all they want about the poor Palestinians and the nasty Israelis. There are none so blind as those that refuse to see. And only a fool fails to see this set for what it is.

    Posted in: Israeli commandos storm aid flotilla; 10 killed

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    grafton

    “It is a set up, a no win situation for Israel just as it was designed to be.”

    Well Sabi and friends are you all happy now, did you all get just what you wanted out of this? This is just what this little boating trip was designed to do. What really turns my stomach about this is the so called good people on these boats that really have to be the most stupid people on the planet. They allowed themselves to be used, maybe even killed. And if reports are to be believed some even had children with. In my book those children should now be taken into care because their parents have knowingly exposed them to incredible danger.

    No surprise here was there Sabi? Israel was put in a position whereby whatever they did you and your friends got a show of some kind. The Arab propaganda machine has been working well and done a great deal of damage to relations between Israel and the rest of the world now they have gone one step further. You can all be very happy and proud today.

    Posted in: Israeli commandos storm aid flotilla; 10 killed

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    sabiwabi at 09:24 AM JST - 31st May

    As you and I both know most of the UN workers that write the reports that produce your dependable information are either Palestinians or Palestinian sympathisers. No, that is not to say that I believe everything Israel says, I don’t. Unlike you however I look for balance in the news rather than believe in what is obviously propaganda. And this little outing of boats is nothing more than propaganda in the making. It is a set up, a no win situation for Israel just as it was designed to be. Are you now going to pretend here on this site that you do not understand that? Whatever those boats are carrying is of no consequence, it is the act of going up against the Israeli navy that this is all about, a stage managed little drama. Now you tell us all here that I am wrong, tell us that these boats really are only trying to deliver what is needed. Please don’t disappoint us and make a total fool of yourself. Over the last few months your arguments have got so good I almost thought your handlers had replaced you with somebody else.

    Posted in: Israeli commandos storm aid flotilla; 10 killed

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    grafton

    I reckjon that the world is degenerating into a bad BBC sitcom and I have visions of a John Cleese type character driving across the desert with a stolen nuclear weapon on his way to sell it to some dodgy Arabs when it accidentally goes off and starts world war 3. Either that or the above post (and mine) will get deleted, for the over all good of mankind you understand.

    Posted in: Israel key to conference on banning nukes

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    LIBERTAS at 12:42 AM JST - 30th May

    Wow what a rampage, but you missed story about babies thrown onto bayonets. Everything said was an exaggeration or distortion and MistWizard who normally has more reasoned arguments actually agreed with it.

    “it IS genocide and extermination.”

    How then do you account for the very, very healthy population growth if they are all being killed to such a degree?

    “What about Palestine's right to exist” “When will "israel" singularly guarantee that? C'mon.”

    When the Palestinians start working towards an agreement that does not give them the right to randomly fire rockets into Israel whenever they feel like it and actually say that Israel also has a right to exist. (Please note capital letters on all place names out of respect). All you have done is blindly rant on about Israel as though Palestine was some innocent child that plays no part in any of what is happening. That at the very least is naïve, and had you ever made any effort to have read anything I have written before you would know that although I do defend Israel I have always said that they do over react, though like you with the Palestinians I have allowed myself to have understanding for why this happens. They have lost both patience and perhaps respect too for people who are totally unwilling to try and find a compromise that will bring the Middle East madness to an end.

    As for the other foolish comments that there is no Arab threat to Israel and that anyway the US would come to Israel’s aid. That is almost too childish in its reasoning, of course there is an Arab threat. Where do you all imagine the money comes from that buys all the weapons, did you think Santa brought them to those nice Palestinian boys? The only this that has held that tide of murder back has been Israel’s nuclear weapons, weapons that we all know they have but which have never been used as an open threat to anybody. They are a last resort held in the only responsible hands in the Middle East. I would trust no Arab country to hold nuclear weapons, and yes I know Pakistan has then and we all seen how nervous the world gets every time there is a dispute between Pakistan and India. There is even a fear that the Taliban might get too close to them.

    As for the US aid should Israel be attacked, how long would it take to get there even if it was agreed that the US could afford to go? Remember they the US isn’t even sure it can go to the aid of South Korea because of commitments elsewhere. Mush like Hungary in 56, the guarantors might be busy when they are needed. And that of course brings me back to the silly comment that Russia isn’t now worried about Germany because the world has changed and so doesn’t need its nuclear weapons. Russia never had nuclear weapons to defend against Germany, they had them to defend against our democratic friend the US of A. A country that seems to be at war with some one somewhere all the time. And anybody that admits to being a Guardian reader loses all credibility by that simply fact.

    Posted in: Israel key to conference on banning nukes

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    grafton

    When the Arab countries collectively guarantee Israel’s existence then Israel might listen. Israel is surrounded by countries that have collectively attack her before so why should she be expected to give up the one guarantee she has just because those same past attackers want her to? Israel has nuclear weapons for a long time and there has never been any worry about them being used for any reason other than ultimate defence and it could well be reasoned that those nuclear weapons are perhaps the only reason Israel still exists today.

    Simple rule in the Middle East, never trust a gang of smiling Arabs who are asking you to give up your gun.

    Posted in: Israel key to conference on banning nukes

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    stevecpfc at 10:57 AM JST - 28th May

    “What`s with the ever present peace signs?”

    Don’t you want peace?

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    MistWizard at 06:28 PM JST - 28th May

    “I carry my biometric data with me everywhere I go. No need to put it on a chip in card.”

    We all do, but sometimes it is better to also have it in binary coded decimal so as to avoid all the painful blood letting.

    Posted in: Britain to scrap unpopular ID card program

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    stevecpfc at 07:50 AM JST - 28th May

    “sort out your paraonia, 1984 was only a film,”

    For me 1984 was only a book, but then I have never taken the simplistic rout to education. My paranoia (assuming that was the word you intended) is relative to all governments who historically have shown that they can never be trusted NOT to use any information once it has been collected.

    “Both Tory and Liberals wanted no id cards, the financial side is secondary.”

    No, they wanted votes and the financial side may be secondary to you but seems to be important to both the British people and the current government, IF what they are saying is to be believed. Not that I do. By the way was there some particular need on your part for being quite so snide? I can’t remember having been offensive to you at any time in the past, so why so personal?

    Posted in: Britain to scrap unpopular ID card program

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    grafton

    The Labour government created an outlandishly expensive and near unworkable scheme that ended up costing stupid amounts of money and as such they killed what should have been a good idea had it been kept within sane limits.

    Now the new government are playing with the minds of the newly “free” British who believe everything they are told (again). This isn’t being done to give liberty to the down trodden Brits, not will it save very much either, there are too many contracts to be honoured and too much has already been spent. Pure and simple propaganda aimed the gullible sheeple (again). And does anybody really believe any government will destroy a data base?

    Posted in: Britain to scrap unpopular ID card program

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    grafton

    Having AKB48 there was the only way they could get the press to show up for this none event film release.

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    sensei258 at 08:09 AM JST - 26th May

    “Sabre rattling, and blowin smoke.”

    I hope you are right, but I think you are also being very simplistic about the “spoiled child throwing a tantrum”. There is more going on in NK at the moment than any of us really know, and the “dear leader” is not the only crazy there who could bring about a war. A little war could find NK with a new mad men running the show. The obvious is not always the answer.

    Posted in: N Korea cuts ties with South; raises war rhetoric

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    OssanAmerica at 08:25 AM JST - 26th May

    Agree with you and the way to do it legitimately is to put a total embargo on NK and ANY nation that continues to have dealing with them. It was done with Cuba for no good reason so it can be done to NK with good reason. That would put China between a rock and a hard place. Granted I have my own reasons for wanting Chinas exports to the rest of the world curtailed and if NK helped bring that about I would be more than happy.

    Posted in: N Korea cuts ties with South; raises war rhetoric

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    grafton

    I have entered into serious negotiations with my wife, which translates as, you may think these prices are expensive as they are, but you have NO IDEA how much this might end up costing me.

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    Sarge and MistWizard

    In a way I agree with both of you and not just in relation to the US military. The military of any country has a function and the sexual orientation of the people that make up the military has nothing to do with that function. “Don’t ask, don’t tell” was all that was needed pushing it beyond that stops it from being a rights issue and turns into a political issue something that the military should have no part in.

    Posted in: White House eyes compromise on gays in military

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